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Old November 10th, 2007, 08:22 PM   #1
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CL throttle body?

Heres a link to ebayer that sells tl/cl throttle bodys if any one is interested. 129$ looks pretty good to me. I dunno.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...179613896&rd=1


What will it take to swap this on 99 av6? Does any one know the MM of each. I cann't find it in many searches. Is it an easy bolt on swap?

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Old November 12th, 2007, 11:43 AM   #2
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my guess is that they are the same size. Reason: the intakes you buy are compatible with Cl and accord and do not have a different piece for mounting onto a CL.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:12 PM   #3
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I finally found my answer. On a post somewhere in this forum I found the accord v6 throttle body is 60mm.
On another forum some where I found this quote:
"This increased airflow and air filling is the fundamental reason for the efficient combustion and subsequent power. Additional improvements were made to reduce air intake restriction and increase total air flow volume through a larger 64mm bore throttle body, along with a low restriction, overall air induction network, including a free flow air filter and air flow tube."

That was part of the answer to the question "how does a 3.2 make 260hp"

It also happens that I found some one telling someone else for an av6, not to go bigger than 64mm unless boosted.

So thats perfect. I'll get a 64mm throttle body, and have it bored once boosted.

I just installed vafc and have A/F gage coming. Guess CLScam swap will be next in line to unleash it all.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 08:16 AM   #4
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i believe TB of J32 engine don't work on 98-99 AV6, only on 00-02 AV6.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 09:33 AM   #5
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i believe TB of J32 engine don't work on 98-99 AV6, only on 00-02 AV6.
What would I have to do? Get a j32 intake manifold to go with it?
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Old November 17th, 2007, 12:16 PM   #6
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It should fit either way, although if you get a chance to pick up a CLS IM for a good price then go for it.

By the way the TB in the ebay link is not from the type-S, you can tell because the donor vehicle shows the TL-P with the base 16" wheels.
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Old November 17th, 2007, 02:35 PM   #7
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It should fit either way, although if you get a chance to pick up a CLS IM for a good price then go for it.

By the way the TB in the ebay link is not from the type-S, you can tell because the donor vehicle shows the TL-P with the base 16" wheels.
Since its still a 3.2 wouldn't it still have a slightly bigger throttle body?

I guess I'll have to goto acura to make sure what the sizes are for sure. All I can really find searching the web is speculation for the most part.

Thanks guys
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Old November 18th, 2007, 01:29 AM   #8
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What would I have to do? Get a j32 intake manifold to go with it?
i believe its not fitment the issue there, its either Throtle Posision Sensor (TPS) or Idle Air Control (IAC) valve do not work with ECU of 98-99 AV6.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 03:18 AM   #9
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Not even sure if the CLS throttle body fits the way its supposed to, just checked out the J32 and J30 inlet manifold elbows from the supercharger kits and the stud/bolt patterns on them indicate the pattern on the TB but they are different and dont match up, however the blower inlet manifold is the same for both kits and thus can fit either TB. Then again I remember Siggy running the J30 elbow for a while, until I gave him my J32 elbow in exchange for his future one in order to epedite matters.

Not too sure on the TPS and IACV sensors for the earlier Accords though.
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i think this is a better deal

http://www.maxbore.com/

J30A1 stock TB size is 60mm(although 02AV6 said its 58mm)

He bores out your existing TB + intake maifold for $165, also there is no core charge.

my only question is if i send my TB + intake manifold to him, and he bores it to 68 mm(same size as CL-S TB), can i use my existing Volant intake to fit the bored out tb ?

I love my current Volant SRI, so i am wondering how one would solve this problem ?

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Old November 22nd, 2007, 08:17 PM   #11
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i think this is a better deal

http://www.maxbore.com/

J30A1 stock TB size is 60mm(although 02AV6 said its 58mm)

He bores out your existing TB + intake maifold for $165, also there is no core charge.

my only question is if i send my TB + intake manifold to him, and he bores it to 68 mm(same size as CL-S TB), can i use my existing Volant intake to fit the bored out tb ?

I love my current Volant SRI, so i am wondering how one would solve this problem ?
Well if you can't strech out the silicone coupler then just get a stepped one like a 2.75" that gets bigger to 3" for the TB.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 08:24 PM   #12
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where can i find those stepped couplers ?

also do you think the couplers bythemselves will be able to support the intake ? Volant already provided me with a bracket that i am using right now, but i just hope it holds up in the long run.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:18 PM   #13
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where can i find those stepped couplers ?

also do you think the couplers bythemselves will be able to support the intake ? Volant already provided me with a bracket that i am using right now, but i just hope it holds up in the long run.
I guess, wouldn't know of their build quality but since my AEM bracket broke, you never now.

Try searching for the couplers online Sharad
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:23 PM   #14
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lol, thanks.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 01:30 PM   #15
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LXcord, nice find, not a bad price at all either. if you get this done my him let us know if your happy with the work.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 10:09 PM   #16
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there are lots of people on Hondatech and 6genaccord forums that can vouch for him, as soon as i get my cash right i am sending my stuff to him.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 09:51 PM   #17
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there are lots of people on Hondatech and 6genaccord forums that can vouch for him, as soon as i get my cash right i am sending my stuff to him.
Thats the way I am going
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Old December 25th, 2007, 04:18 AM   #18
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stock vs type s
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Old December 25th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #19
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so wait, theres a diff between j32 NON -S and j32 type S?
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so wait, theres a diff between j32 NON -S and j32 type S?
not sure but there is a big difference between the j30a1 and the j32a2
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Old December 25th, 2007, 06:44 PM   #21
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not sure but there is a big difference between the j30a1 and the j32a2
Thanks Richie,

Thats exactly what I was trying to find out.
Happy hollidays
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ok, cool
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Old January 26th, 2008, 01:53 AM   #23
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what is small throttle piece on cl-s u look at the engine on left handside i took the cover off and it looks like to small throttle plate what are those for ? thanks
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Old January 31st, 2008, 09:46 AM   #24
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I work at a custom performance metal shop, if anyone want there stuff bored out lemme know and ill price it up, just remember if you bore out the t/b ull need a bigger plate as well, and the upper intake has to match as well or its pointless.

Feel free to PM me if your interested.
Roughly 150-200 dollars for the t/body and upper intake, and t/body spacers are another 60-100 depending on how think u want it, and if u want a 1/8 npt hole for an extra injector or meth injection.

feel free to pm me for shipping info, or stop by if ur in nj
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Old January 31st, 2008, 10:02 AM   #25
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Also as an FYI, the J35A4 TB from the 03 Pilot is the same as the CL-S TB, and can be gotten new with MAP and IAC for $205 from BKHondaParts.com.
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Also as an FYI, the J35A4 TB from the 03 Pilot is the same as the CL-S TB, and can be gotten new with MAP and IAC for $205 from BKHondaParts.com.
ya but then you still need to bore the upper intake to match or it ends up being a waste of time and money, right now im considering boring mine to around 65-70mm with a 2 inch t/b spacer
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Old January 31st, 2008, 10:15 AM   #27
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Lol, and then if you leave the fairly puny intake valves on the J30A1, it is still pretty wasted.
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Ok... what will replacing the throttle body do?
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Ok... what will replacing the throttle body do?
Replacing the factory TB with a larger TB will allow more air to be introduced into the engine, simple relation of horsepower with air and fuel...the more air and fuel the more horsepower. Get it?
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