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Old January 2nd, 2009, 02:12 PM   #31
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I have an idea that I am not will to discuss on this thread given recent events, just need some time and money to get the parts.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 02:50 PM   #32
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Could you possibly PM me any of the details? I am waiting for someone to make a BBK for the rear and am getting itchy to buy one. The one on fastbrakes I think is going to be too expensive and will only be 1 piston so I would like to know what else is on the market.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 04:56 PM   #33
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Could you possibly PM me any of the details? I am waiting for someone to make a BBK for the rear and am getting itchy to buy one. The one on fastbrakes I think is going to be too expensive and will only be 1 piston so I would like to know what else is on the market.
our vehicles aren't like other vehicles such as subaru or evos and Z's and G35s. Our rear e-brake is developed into the caliper itself whereas the subaru, evo, and VQ"s are disk/drum setup for the rear. It's rare to find a 2piston+ rear caliper that has a cable brake implemented in it. A bracket can be made, and the rotor diameter can be upgraded and still utilize the stock caliper. Notice the TL-S and RL do still utilize a 1 piston rear caliper aswell.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 05:30 PM   #34
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Nice work on the brackets, if I was keeping my TL I would definitely be investing in a pair.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 06:45 PM   #35
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Hey Paul how much do the calipers/rotors weigh?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:35 PM   #36
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The calipers are surprisingly light, I would say maybe 10lbs each, the rotors are a different story, probably a couple lbs heavier than stock.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:47 PM   #37
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Whats the biggest rotor this calipers can handle on a 18" wheel?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 04:03 AM   #38
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The calipers are surprisingly light, I would say maybe 10lbs each, the rotors are a different story, probably a couple lbs heavier than stock.
Cool thanks for the quick answer
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Old January 4th, 2009, 05:31 AM   #39
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Whats the biggest rotor this calipers can handle on a 18" wheel?
Depends alot on wheel design, offset, spoke design, but no reason a 13.2" rotor would not fit.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #40
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So how much are these brackets going for....
Do they even fit 6thgens?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 01:35 PM   #41
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Im pretty sure the front brakes are interchangable between the 6th and 7th gen.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 06:56 PM   #42
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That's possible but but the caliper brackets might not be the same but not far off for the 6th gen and 7th gen if that. If I would of known I would of went this route but I still love my wilwoods.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 08:05 AM   #43
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the rotors are a different story, probably a couple lbs heavier than stock.
booo...increased rotational mass FTL LOL

i'm sure it doesn't matter though, one might be putting down some serious power to need a BBK like this!
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Old January 5th, 2009, 08:33 AM   #44
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booo...increased rotational mass FTL LOL

i'm sure it doesn't matter though, one might be putting down some serious power to need a BBK like this!
increased rotational mass ya but worth it for the increased stopping power... plus i dont think the rotational mass added from the rotors would be as bad as lets say heavier wheels, since the mass in the rotors is still all closer to the axis of rotation
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Old January 5th, 2009, 09:47 AM   #45
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booo...increased rotational mass FTL LOL

i'm sure it doesn't matter though, one might be putting down some serious power to need a BBK like this!
You always have the option of a 2-piece rotor for weight reduction and heat dissipation. As long as you are willing to pay the price for them. You gotta pay to play, and if you don't want to pay, don't try playing.
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Old January 5th, 2009, 11:25 AM   #46
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You always have the option of a 2-piece rotor for weight reduction and heat dissipation. As long as you are willing to pay the price for them. You gotta pay to play, and if you don't want to pay, don't try playing.
yup i looked into those when i first picked up these rotors.... a possible upgrade for the future.. at the moment can't beat 150 shipped on the rotoras that i got =)

for 2 piece rotors... once you get the hats can you interchange different rotors from different brands? or are you limited to matching the same brand rotor to hat forever?
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yup i looked into those when i first picked up these rotors.... a possible upgrade for the future.. at the moment can't beat 150 shipped on the rotoras that i got =)

for 2 piece rotors... once you get the hats can you interchange different rotors from different brands? or are you limited to matching the same brand rotor to hat forever?
it's interchangeable depending on who cuts the rotor. Note 2 piece rotors are more expensive than 1 piece.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 06:59 AM   #48
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As long as you are willing to pay the price for them. You gotta pay to play, and if you don't want to pay, don't try playing.
agreed

its nice to see a wide range of owners on this forum do different mods varying from high-end to low-end

I'm a granny driver and like my 16" steelies and snow tires for the winter as I don't want to have to run a 17" snow tire to clear a BBK LMAO
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Old January 6th, 2009, 08:05 AM   #49
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Note 2 piece rotors are more expensive than 1 piece.
that i definitely knew.. but didnt know if i could get hats and try different brand rotors over time. i've also seen a few sites that cut custom size rotors and the prices werent bad.. the biggest cost is getting the hats with the first set of rotors.

anyway we installed the bbk last night.. the brackets paul made were very solid.. the EBC pads dont have a bedding procedure, they have a special coating that automatically beds the pads but requires light braking for the first 100 miles, so i'm being patient with them for now to ensure proper bedding. but they already feel very solid. i'll get a few pics up when the rain and ice here in DC stops
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Old January 6th, 2009, 08:55 AM   #50
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that i definitely knew.. but didnt know if i could get hats and try different brand rotors over time. i've also seen a few sites that cut custom size rotors and the prices werent bad.. the biggest cost is getting the hats with the first set of rotors.

anyway we installed the bbk last night.. the brackets paul made were very solid.. the EBC pads dont have a bedding procedure, they have a special coating that automatically beds the pads but requires light braking for the first 100 miles, so i'm being patient with them for now to ensure proper bedding. but they already feel very solid. i'll get a few pics up when the rain and ice here in DC stops
that's awesome. Now Paul can't let any more secrets out cause we have lurkers that like to steal ideas on here and sell them. I remember there was a statement made against paul for not being detailed about his projects. This is the reason why, because vendors steal ideas and than whore our products.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 09:29 AM   #51
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yeah... whoever is lurking on here from FASTBRAKES.... eff yuu.

just bc of that.. paul and i wont be posting the next upgrades we are working on for the rear brakes and other things that started brewing last night until they are done... sorry v6p

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Old January 6th, 2009, 11:44 AM   #52
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yeah... whoever is lurking on here from racing brake.... eff yuu.

just bc of that.. paul and i wont be posting the next upgrades we are working on for the rear brakes and other things that started brewing last night until they are done... sorry v6p
it really sucks when All you and Paul are trying to do is give us v6p peeps more options in regard to a bbk setup and someone comes along and steals the idea and tries to profit off of it. I figured someone would do it soon enough, but didn't think it would be them. I don't think you have to be too specific with all the details next time you come up with something Paul.
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correction*********** eff yuu FASTBRAKES. not racing brake.

racing brake is good stuff.. but i guess fast brakes are hacks. for the price their offering... they must be getting the calipers from a junkyard.. and NOT rebuilt with new seals (the rebuild kit costs 100 for the calipers).. rotors must be cheap or honda OEM rotors (not very good).. and who knows the quality of the stainless braided lines in the package.

the calipers should be rebuilt especially buying them from a yard or off ebay.

so.. the quality of their package has to be junk considering unrebuilt calipers and unknown rotors and SS brake lines... just look at that package compared to any other package.. at least 400 more for anything else =P
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This sucks, I was looking forward for the other mods Paul had in mind.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #55
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Yea Paul got hit 2 times already...so wish we had the money so we could get this **** patented.
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P.S keep your for sale stuff out of people's discussion threads as that's one of the rules on the forum. Unless someone asked you specifically, it would be way cool.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #57
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so you're saying that if I'm a vendor, I can go into any discussion threads and throw my adds out?
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Old January 6th, 2009, 01:51 PM   #58
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so you're saying that if I'm a vendor, I can go into any discussion threads and throw my adds out?
Sounds more like as long as Dizzy gets his money you can do whatever you want IMO.

I retract and appologize for this comment was made while angry, I know Dizzy does work hard to keep the site running and formorly being in the IT industry I know it is alot of work to maintain a site like this.

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Old January 6th, 2009, 01:58 PM   #59
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I'd hold off on blaming anyone for stealing your designs. It's a well known fact that a LOT of manufacturers come to our site got look at what might be sold. There are lots of vendors on here paid AND unpaid that do a lot of fishing.

That being said, anyone with half an inkling of how to make these parts can easily look at your pictures and duplicate them. That's why most companies PATENT their designs as well as Copyright them. I've done both for my clients so I have somewhat of a clue of how the process goes. Heck, V6P have had their designs stolen multiple times as well. of course it does certain companies no good since the 6th gen sales have dried up and 7th gens are following close behind.

If you are concerned that your designs are being stolen by P2K and/or Fastbrake, then don't post those pictures. You admitted to not posting anymore pics precisely for those reasons. Good choice IMHO. Just don't go assuming that someone on here who sells a lot of products is passing word onto these companies about your designs. That's a bit naive considering Eibach, Comptech, Unichip, Racing Brakes, Tire rack and many other manufacturers frequent this site. It's more likely than not that someone from P2K or Fastbrake has been here fishing for your designs. A simple Google word search on this forum can quickly find your pictures..its that easy.

And yes, paid vendors get more leeway. They paid for it didn't they? I haven't been all strict about the length of groupbuys either, so don't be going off and saying stuff about me collecting money. All the money we get pays off V6P's server fees, taxes, etc... You think its easy keeping this site going? If it weren't for Maurice and I shelling out money left and right for the past 5 years, the thankless job of our moderators keeping things civil and keeping out the riffraff, plus the non-stop work of Brad who keeps the site going in between his REAL JOB, this site would have died long ago. Google fees aren't enough to keep us afloat. V6P depends a lot on vendor fees to keep us going from month to month. If you don't like it, then goto another site then. You'll find the same deal over on Acurazine's sites as well. We've always run this way, so I don't see what's the big deal.

In fact, now that I'm sufficiently PO'ed about the whole thing, I'm ordering an audit of all our vendors and groupbuys. A lot of folks have been getting free rides for awhile simply because my family life and running a law firm has been keeping me busy and its gonna stop right now. It's not fair to our paying vendors and advertisers and its not fair to our members who have supported this site as well.
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