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Old November 24th, 2015, 06:17 PM   #1
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Okay starting the thread now. Installed the 525cc injectors by FIC last night and it ran like sh** as one can suspect...Dom got em dialed in with one try today and it runs amazing without extensive tuning so far. Seems to run better than my final calibration on the stock 270cc..pulls really good even though only went up to 60% throttle and 4k rpm.

Here is a pic of the updated received parts, other than of course the injectors that were installed.



Just waiting on the ported j32a2 manifold, ported runners and the final TB to supercharger adapter. The ported j32a2 manifold was sent out today from Mike (Oraclem19) and will arrive Friday, as will the final TB to charger adapter. Measuring for the charger pulley to our 7th gen pulley system will commence soon after

Here is a pic of the 3d printed adapter test fitting to the SH-AWD TB.

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Old November 24th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #2
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so we can't use the newer style IM for the s/c to mount on?
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Old November 24th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #3
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oh you most certainly can if you want to measure, fab, and create the template for it lol. We just went the j32a2 manifold route because it was well...easier.

Actually I believe Oracle is working with Pranks Parts on the 7th gen manifold adapter design...I'm sure he will chime in soon to verify.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 07:06 PM   #4
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Chiming. Multiple options are being considered to get this to the A7V6 platform without futurefitting parts (retrofit doesn't exactly work here)
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Old November 25th, 2015, 11:27 AM   #5
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I hope they consider j37 IM as an option...just saying!!
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Old November 25th, 2015, 03:47 PM   #6
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what brand supercharger is that? jackson racing? rotrex?
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Old November 25th, 2015, 03:48 PM   #7
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eaton m90. DIY supercharger
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Old November 25th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #8
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Nice m90's everywhere.
What size pulley is that your running ?

Have a drill handy when you go to put on the first adapter plate.
Not a big deal but I had to drill the very outer holes on both ends for it to sit flat.
The other plate lined right up.
Throttle body block off was the same,needed one drilled to sit flat.
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Old November 25th, 2015, 06:38 PM   #9
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Nice m90's everywhere.
What size pulley is that your running ?

Have a drill handy when you go to put on the first adapter plate.
Not a big deal but I had to drill the very outer holes on both ends for it to sit flat.
The other plate lined right up.
Throttle body block off was the same,needed one drilled to sit flat.
lol I had the same problem with the plates not meshing together, until I flipped the intake mani adapter plate over, then it fit perfect. Im going to be running a 4.0 pulley. Starting with low boost.
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Can't wait for more updates. Guess your cutting your hood?

Picked up my own M90 yesterday to join in on the fun
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Old November 26th, 2015, 09:29 AM   #11
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Will have an update most likely on Saturday where we will be test fitting everything.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 09:06 AM   #12
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Wow you 7th gen guys are really doing a lot to your engines! Kind of makes me jealous that I have a 6th gen. Seems most people have moved past that generation now


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Old November 27th, 2015, 04:38 PM   #13
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UPDATE:

Received the mani today from Oraclem19....his porting is amazing.







Putting on the adapter plate:



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1 inch offset pulley will be perfect:

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Beast mode.
Looking good man.
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Old November 27th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #15
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Beast mode.
Looking good man.
thanks :P The blower to TB adapter plate was just made, wont be here till next week sometime. I will dress it all up and paint it when I have time, far after the install. I just want to get it working for now.
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oh you most certainly can if you want to measure, fab, and create the template for it lol. We just went the j32a2 manifold route because it was well...easier.

Actually I believe Oracle is working with Pranks Parts on the 7th gen manifold adapter design...I'm sure he will chime in soon to verify.
will the j32a2 IM bolt on to the j30a4? and awesome job cant wait to see how it turns out.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 04:35 AM   #17
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will the j32a2 IM bolt on to the j30a4? and awesome job cant wait to see how it turns out.
Yup! The j32a2 manifold seems to sit lower and my adapter harnesses to the injectors were getting in the way so i had to do lots of tucking and hiding wires. The open space under the manifold seems to be a little different from the other manifolds as well. But ya it fits.
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Old November 28th, 2015, 10:27 AM   #18
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1 inch offset pulley will be perfect:

WOW! That offset really is perfect! When you have time it would be good to try and get that pulley adapter put on there, and get the accessory belt undone to see just how close/perfect it is.
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I got the rental pulley puller on the way. Im now trying to get this bypass/dump valve to work properly so that at idle or low load it will dump boost. I understand that the valve is always closed by spring force and is opened by vacuum. So it seems like a very simple fix. At low throttle there is vacuum and when you step on it pressure rises and especially with FI. So really, all I need to do is hook the vacuum line up somewhere by the manifold and it should be self regulated then correct?

Heres some great info on how it works please chime in:

"The CONTROL sequence is described rather simply as well: When boost is not needed (idle or light-load driving conditions), the air is actually bypassed inside the supercharger before the rotors. The air comes out the bottom of the supercharger into the lower intake manifold through a bypass valve designed much like a throttle plate. Spring force from the actuator (Boost Control Actuator, BCA) and vacuum coming from the Boost Control Solenoid hold the valve closed to create boost in it's default state. In order to BYPASS boost when not needed (idle or light-load driving conditions), vacuum from the BCS must be turned off by the PCM to allow the vacuum at the top of the BCA to overcome it's own internal spring force. In simpler terms, with the car off, spring force inside the BCA holds the bypass closed. When the car is idling, the BCS turns off, allowing the vacuum ported to the top of the BCA to overcome the spring force and open the bypass. So the vacuum port at the top of the BCS always has vacuum on it if the car is running, but the vacuum going to the bottom of the BCA only has vacuum when boost is desired (helping the spring in the BCA to hold the bypass closed). The control vacuum is switched on or off by the Boost Control Solenoid (BCS) via the PCM. Various other inputs are required. For instance, after a spirited wide-open-throttle (WOT) run, when you let off the throttle, the PCM sees the throttle position sensor (TPS) change state, and realizes that you let off the accelerator. In this situation, the PCM commands the BCS to dump boost, and allows vacuum to overcome the spring force in the BCA in order to OPEN the bypass valve and dump the incoming air from the throttle body directly into the lower intake manifold (LIM) before the rotors in the supercharger have a chance to compress it."

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This is making me want to swap my J32a3 with J37 heads and direct port my nitrous

p.s.- My J30 just simply will not blow up.
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This is making me want to swap my J32a3 with J37 heads and direct port my nitrous

p.s.- My J30 just simply will not blow up.
Immerse your air intake into a container of water
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200 shot of nitrous should do it
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lol my inj duty cycle was at 89% with the stock 270cc. After I put in the 525cc my highest duty cycle I've seen is 43%...I think there is a bit of room for some more powah
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I got the rental pulley puller on the way. Im now trying to get this bypass/dump valve to work properly so that at idle or low load it will dump boost. I understand that the valve is always closed by spring force and is opened by vacuum. So it seems like a very simple fix. At low throttle there is vacuum and when you step on it pressure rises and especially with FI. So really, all I need to do is hook the vacuum line up somewhere by the manifold and it should be self regulated then correct?
This could get complex without knowing how your tune will be effected by boost coming on and off since tunes are drastically different. For now i'm putting my say in to simply leave it closed, as at low rpm the boost may very well be just above ambient. That was originally designed for noise and gas consumption at idle/around town. Whereas here this is for all the time power

In the meantime, does anyone know a good and decent bit about water injection? I'm feeling like getting a cheap system set up will be very beneficial to getting this running easily without det, then work up to a progressive controller to allow for some serious power.



Also, if you need to blow up your engine, just lower the injector duty cycle each pass at a drag strip. You'll make more power till it blows. Or run it without coolant (whoops)
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aquamist system would be the best. AEM if you want something cheap.
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aquamist system would be the best. AEM if you want something cheap.
AEM's cheapest kit is 400, not exactly what I would say best bang for your buck. I need some info on how to use kit effectively, when to inject and when not to, and when these things really knock. Nitrous it's easy to figure out when it knocks due to the explosion if you try to push at low rpms, but boost, and especially on our own system, not so sure.
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^ you can get used kit for around 200-250.
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AEM's cheapest kit is 400, not exactly what I would say best bang for your buck. I need some info on how to use kit effectively, when to inject and when not to, and when these things really knock. Nitrous it's easy to figure out when it knocks due to the explosion if you try to push at low rpms, but boost, and especially on our own system, not so sure.
Basically any time/all the time. The J is very knock prone, even in stock form. I would make sure you are spraying at any and all boost levels, especailly since it is a non-intercooled setup.
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do you have Pre cat deletes? S/C will destroy HFPC and oem cats
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do you have Pre cat deletes? S/C will destroy HFPC and oem cats
oh...no I have OEM pre cats lol
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