hard to shift into 3rd on 6 speed. Anyone else? - Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums
Ribbon Banner

Go Back   Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums > CAR SPECIFIC DISCUSSION > 7TH GENERATION HONDA ACCORD (2003-2007)
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read Insurance
V6Performance.net is the premier Honda Accord Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old February 15th, 2006, 09:29 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 39
hard to shift into 3rd on 6 speed. Anyone else?

My car has slowly developed a reluctance to go into 3rd gear, especially at low speeds. Many times when I'm poking along in traffic and try to slip it into 3rd, it feels like the linkage binds up. If I keep applying pressure it eventually slips in, but its definitely not as smooth as the other gears. The car is a commuter and is never raced or abused. And for the record I've been driving manual transmission cars for 15 years.

Has anyone else had this problem? What was the fix? It only happens occasionally so I know if I take it in, I'm going to get the "couldn't replicate the problem" response from the dealership.
SlvrBllt is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old February 15th, 2006, 09:31 AM   #2
indoctidiscant
 
OwAce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,790
Send a message via AIM to OwAce
its a common problem on the 6spd tranny. Honda will address it as it sees fit. take it to your dealer.
OwAce is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 10:55 AM   #3
Registered User
 
6MTV6-ACCORD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 124
It happens to me too.

I thought it might be the dog cut on the syncro, but it only happens sometimes

More when it's cold out.

I'm now thinking that when it's cold the shift fork might shift plane off sligtly because of the contraction in the metal.



I'm taking it in this weekend.
6MTV6-ACCORD is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old February 15th, 2006, 11:32 AM   #4
Registered User
 
sa863c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6MTV6-ACCORD
It happens to me too.

I thought it might be the dog cut on the syncro, but it only happens sometimes

More when it's cold out.

I'm now thinking that when it's cold the shift fork might shift plane off sligtly because of the contraction in the metal.



I'm taking it in this weekend.

I have the exact same issue, bringing it back next monday for the third time w/ this problem, last time they topped off the trans oil and told me to see if it got any better...arg.
sa863c is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 01:13 PM   #5
6MT
 
SlayerGTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: DALLAS, Texas
Posts: 1,195
Send a message via AIM to SlayerGTR
same here

does anyone know how long it'll take the dealer to fix it? Cuz I'll only have like 2 days tops to get it fixed
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
SlayerGTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 01:16 PM   #6
indoctidiscant
 
OwAce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,790
Send a message via AIM to OwAce
people on the TL and S2k forums have replaced their OEM tranny fluid with GM redline syncromesh fluid. ppl swear by it. my friend said it made no difference on his TL. i thought it did on my car.
OwAce is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 02:22 PM   #7
darkside / gen7accord.com
 
Blizzard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: SF Bay Area / UCSB
Posts: 1,071
Send a message via AIM to Blizzard
wow, crazy. My 3rd gear slides in beautifully.

definately check your transmission fluid... though it could be a synchro that's dead.
__________________
Art

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

D a r k s i d e
Blizzard is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 02:23 PM   #8
Banned
 
asuche03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ (Ahwatukee)
Posts: 87
My car too! It happens randomly. To get it in gear I end up double clutching.

I also have issues with first gear once in a while. From a dead stop, it won't go all the way into gear. This has only happened a handful of times.....but still. What happened to Honda?

asuche03 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 02:58 PM   #9
Registered User
 
6MTV6-ACCORD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by asuche03
My car too! It happens randomly. To get it in gear I end up double clutching.

I also have issues with first gear once in a while. From a dead stop, it won't go all the way into gear. This has only happened a handful of times.....but still. What happened to Honda?


You in AZ? Me thinks so based on ur SN.
6MTV6-ACCORD is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 03:30 PM   #10
Registered User
 
stevencrosbie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 7
Send a message via AIM to stevencrosbie
I know mine will not go into 2nd when its below 20 outside.....takes double or triple clutch......


I am hoping it goes away....I bought a manual so I won't have problems
stevencrosbie is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 04:48 PM   #11
Registered User
 
Andrew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Naples, Florida
Posts: 813
yea my third is fine, but i do notice sometimes that is is hard to go from 1st-2nd! It feels really notchy and hard to put in at times
Andrew is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 07:31 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3
I have the same problem going into 3rd, though I've only had the car for 3 weeks in cold weather and hope it will loosen up. Please keep updating this thread with dealer fixes.

I had more of a problem going from 1st to 2nd on my 2004 TSX (same transmission), which was a commonly cited problem on Acura websites and sounds like it's happening to some of us. I never pursued that problem with the dealer. 1st to 2nd is no problem on my Accord 6 spd.
Wilfrid is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 09:18 PM   #13
Registered User
 
Jessica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston
Posts: 6
Send a message via AIM to Jessica
I have encountered this problem too when its cold. I thought it may have been "user error" since I was the only one who noticed it when driving and the car is brand new. Now that I have read about everyone else's experience I'm going to bring it to the dealership!
Jessica is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 15th, 2006, 10:43 PM   #14
Registered User
 
AtLxkEvinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 179
Send a message via AIM to AtLxkEvinx
hmmm. dont have the 3rd gear problem, but 2nd gear sometimes is hard to get into, i guess its kind of like andrews.
AtLxkEvinx is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 01:05 AM   #15
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 34
When its really cold its hard to get into 1st and second, but after driving for a bit it goes in smoothly. try syncromesh it works great.
jaijai is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 02:56 AM   #16
I feel da need 4 6-speeds
 
flyvtec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chula Vista CALIFORNIA
Posts: 2,312
Send a message via ICQ to flyvtec Send a message via AIM to flyvtec Send a message via Yahoo to flyvtec
hmmmm...i have 43K miles on my 04 and the gears still shift smoothly as ever! i don't know if living in sunny San Diego is the reason, but i don't have the problem mentioned in this thread.

i race my car every once in a while...i get stuck in stop and go traffic every day to and from work...no problems!

i get my car regularly serviced at Fuller Honda (oil changes/maintenance service) so i don't know if that's a factor.
flyvtec is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 03:35 AM   #17
Official V6P Retro Whore
 
dreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 3,899
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlvrBllt
My car has slowly developed a reluctance to go into 3rd gear, especially at low speeds. Many times when I'm poking along in traffic and try to slip it into 3rd, it feels like the linkage binds up. If I keep applying pressure it eventually slips in, but its definitely not as smooth as the other gears. The car is a commuter and is never raced or abused. And for the record I've been driving manual transmission cars for 15 years.

Has anyone else had this problem? What was the fix? It only happens occasionally so I know if I take it in, I'm going to get the "couldn't replicate the problem" response from the dealership.
have the same problem along with a bunch of others. I'm not sure wtf is up with shifting into 3rd. Seems like I have to wiggle it into 3rd.
dreamer is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 02:49 PM   #18
Banned
 
asuche03's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ (Ahwatukee)
Posts: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by 6MTV6-ACCORD
You in AZ? Me thinks so based on ur SN.
YEP. Arizona State University Chemical Engineer Class of 2003

Since temperature seems to be a big part of everyone's hypothesis I'll add my $.02.

My third gear problems happen pretty randomly. During the 115*F summer days and during the 40*F winter nights.

My first gear issues were during the summer and I don't recall it happening recently.

I can say that my clutch is temperature sensitive. I have to learn a completely new driving style depending on the weather on any given day. It seems that the clutch engagement point changes?!?!
asuche03 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 03:10 PM   #19
Wheelgap = sleeper mod
 
mbr311's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Indy
Posts: 3,038
I had the same problem with my '92 Accord EX, my 2002 Acura RSX-S and my '05 6-speed Coupe. Just a Honda thing I guess...doesn't bother me that much to be honest with you.

Fact is, the clutch and tranny on all 3 cars has never, ever had a problem. The '92 went almost 200,000 miles without any issues. I expect my '05 to run the same. Just a Honda quirk I guess.
mbr311 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 07:48 PM   #20
"Certified Hybrid Killer"
 
SteVTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Commietown, MD
Posts: 5,055
Everybody here complaining about issues getting into 3rd has a 2005 or newer. Not a single 03 or 04 complaint, unless I might have missed one. I wonder if Honda did something to the trannys for 05 that fixed one thing but broke something else.
__________________
Steve | Senior Moderator | "Enginerd" | Nazi Mod | Devil's Advocate | Sarcastic Bastid

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

bye bye, will miss u :-( going... going... GONE
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
&mpt=[CACHEBUSTER]">

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
SteVTEC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 16th, 2006, 08:54 PM   #21
Smooth as Silk
 
dymondawg's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Arlington Heights, IL
Posts: 345
Send a message via AIM to dymondawg
I have not had any issues worth complaining about with my 6MT. I bought it new in June 05 - hot summer days, no issues... It now has about 17k on it, and I still don't have any issues with 1st or 3rd (knock on wood). Now we're in the middle of a relatively mild winter here in Chicago, but the cold doesn't seem to bother the clutch engagement/synchros at all. Just my .02.
dymondawg is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 19th, 2006, 08:06 PM   #22
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 10
all the problems with 1st and 3rd gear...can they be fixed by installing a short shifter???

or is the problem beyond that...
vt4c4lif4 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 19th, 2006, 09:39 PM   #23
"Certified Hybrid Killer"
 
SteVTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Commietown, MD
Posts: 5,055
generally putting a STS on something with a clunky linkage or generally poor shifter will only make things worse since the STS also increases required effort.
SteVTEC is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 19th, 2006, 09:50 PM   #24
indoctidiscant
 
OwAce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,790
Send a message via AIM to OwAce
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Everybody here complaining about issues getting into 3rd has a 2005 or newer. Not a single 03 or 04 complaint, unless I might have missed one. I wonder if Honda did something to the trannys for 05 that fixed one thing but broke something else.
not tru. i have 3rd gear issues. i have an 04. jon2002 has an 03/04 and his tranny refused to shift the 2nd day. he got a new one.
OwAce is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 19th, 2006, 10:43 PM   #25
6MT
 
SlayerGTR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: DALLAS, Texas
Posts: 1,195
Send a message via AIM to SlayerGTR
my lil 3rd gear grinding issue started like late summer and my car technically is a mid 05, wasn't a 1st batch that came out. I got her in july. 1-2 months later, i grinded it for the 1st time, cuz it wouldn't pop in all the way and I thought it was in all the way. I wonder if the CL-S had these problems
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
SlayerGTR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 19th, 2006, 11:35 PM   #26
indoctidiscant
 
OwAce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,790
Send a message via AIM to OwAce
i can be honest, i only have 3rd gear issues when im shifting very very lazilly. and i may myself have not put the car completely into gear.
OwAce is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 20th, 2006, 04:34 AM   #27
AV6 6spd w/ Navi
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 42
Send a message via AIM to AccordHawk
I have the same problem... third gear does not go in smoothly... and i end up double clutching sometimes... it bothers me but i figure i stil have warranty.. is that a bad idea? oh i have an 05 av6
AccordHawk is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 21st, 2006, 08:14 AM   #28
Banned
 
Quickshift160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tampa
Posts: 65
Send a message via AIM to Quickshift160
ya i have the problem with 2nd but i abuse mine and race it so thats y when i first bot it the only problem was goin into 1st when slowing down but thats not a big deal....no 2nd is very sticky and 3rd has no problem
Quickshift160 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 21st, 2006, 08:35 AM   #29
indoctidiscant
 
OwAce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 3,790
Send a message via AIM to OwAce
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quickshift160
y when i first bot it the only problem was goin into 1st when slowing down but thats not a big deal....
ding ding ding!!! you need to NOT do that. shifting into first at speeds above 5-10mph is hazardous for your transmissions health.
OwAce is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old February 21st, 2006, 09:07 AM   #30
Die-Hard Enthusiast!!
 
Sick6speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Fernando Valey (Encino)
Posts: 735
Send a message via AIM to Sick6speed Send a message via Yahoo to Sick6speed
I beat the hell out of my car and never have had a problem. I had the shift forks changed inside one time under warranty but other than that it has been like butter.
Sick6speed is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Honda Accord Forum : V6 Performance Accord Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Chapter
Choose your AV6 Chapter Location
Ride
What do you drive?
Insurance
Please select your insurance company (Optional)

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On