My new GTO

[02AV6]

:wave:

I'm just reserving a space for now and going to upload tonight cool new pics including a pile of weight reduction parts :D.

Also decided to create this thread due to the following:
a. not clutter this thread anymore - http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84584&page=6
b. there is no action here, so I thought I will add something new

Stay tuned

[Kiet]

what...

[sy272004]

you debaging to reduce weight lol? or think somebody would not know that its gto? what color is it? is it manual or auto?

[clean2draccord]

Ahhh congrats GTO, one of my favorite cars. I've been bugging one of my managers to let me drive his GTO one day. :o

[kramer2k]

what...
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1157809&postcount=118

from

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=84584&page=2&pp=40

[Lxcord]

wow modding already....

for headers the LG pro long-tube headers are the best for the LS1-LS2 engines, for exhaust i recommend B&B Bullet exhaust :D

what kind of intake do you have ? they are some good choices like Volant, K&N, i am not sure if Halltech makes intakes for GTO's, i know they make for the corvette. :)

oh don't forget the B&M rip shifter, great mod.

[stupidaznmunkey]

GODDD I LOVE THE GTO - are you on gtoforum.com? hahaha

goats ftw!

[02AV6]

kramer2k :up2:

you debaging to reduce weight lol? or think somebody would not know that its gto? what color is it? is it manual or auto?

Debadging has been done to make it look clean. See below pics :), details are there and it's auto.

wow modding already....

for headers the LG pro long-tube headers are the best for the LS1-LS2 engines, for exhaust i recommend B&B Bullet exhaust :D

what kind of intake do you have ? they are some good choices like Volant, K&N, i am not sure if Halltech makes intakes for GTO's, i know they make for the corvette. :)

oh don't forget the B&M rip shifter, great mod.

Going with coated Kooks LT headers with good cats soon and maybe just different mufflers or h-pipe. I want louder than stock but not TOO loud for daily driver ;). Intake is LPE (Lingenfelter) which insulates better than K&N plus I've got a good deal on it otherwise would go with Volant. And mine is auto 4L65 :cool:

GODDD I LOVE THE GTO - are you on gtoforum.com? hahaha

I know a local mechanic who previously did some complex installation on my AV6 and now owns modded GTO.

[Kiet]

there is a gto at my school. i get scared looking at it. LOL

[02AV6]

Weight reduction = 90lbs :naughty:. From 3725lbs (from the factory) to 3635

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898GTO_weight_reduction.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898GTO_weight_reduction2.jpg

[02AV6]

Show time

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_111.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_222.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_000.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_444.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_555.jpg

[imnotmatt1189]

damn thats fvcking pretty.

[02AV6]

:wave:

[lilfotoman]

wow, gto looks clean!!

[Legendaryyaj]

Can someone enlighten me on why the domestic guys dislike the GTO? I think it looks pretty nice but they refer to it as the "GOAT."

Why sell the Accord for this? :(

[BlackV62K2]

Can someone enlighten me on why the domestic guys dislike the GTO? I think it looks pretty nice but they refer to it as the "GOAT."

Why sell the Accord for this? :(
I dunno, but any car with an LS motor stuffed in it is fine with me. I wish they had GTO's up here. Stupid Canadian bumper laws, we dont even get EVOs :(. So what does the wifey think of the new beast or is she not allowed to drive it LOL.

[AxisAccord]

very nice bro. Do you still have your accord too? A friend of mine just got a GTO a couple months ago that is pretty nice. What kind of gas mileage do you get on the GTO?

-Brandon

[noslow100]

Ask those stupid mustang drivers who is the Goat when the GTO blows by them. I would much rather have the GTO than the mustang anyday. The new GTO looks modern and pwerful. The new mustang looks like what it is. A remake of the old stang. Nice car dude. :eek:

[kramer2k]

is it auto??
READ THE THREAD KLEPTO!
...and it's auto.



but they refer to it as the "GOAT."I think because if you transpose two letters, add an 'a', you get GOAT. :gotme:

Why sell the Accord for this?If you have to ask, you won't understand the answer. :laugh: :p

LS2 = teh sex

[Lxcord]

^ what the hell kind of smiley is that ?

it looks like a schlong :ugh2:

[vTecaznracer]

my roommate has a 6.0...oh man, the torque on that...

[clean2draccord]

Very nice Surge! :up2:

[kayotik]

nice Holden Monaro!

[blk2001tlon19s]

let me think....


Serge, it doesn't look all that fast to me.








Congrats on the new car man.

[OKCV6'R]

LS2 for the WEEEEEN! What a magnificent machine :drool: Take good care of her.

There's a guy I know that bought a GOAT(Auto/stock), stuck a 150 shot of the good stuff and ran low 12's all day long at the track.

edit: i stand corrected. 11.5 @ 120mph :eek:

[OKCV6'R]

here they guys gto

heres what his engine compartment looks like...

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n190/cmex2k/nosfed.jpg

surge pic

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n190/cmex2k/surgepic.jpg

[02AV6]

very nice bro. Do you still have your accord too? A friend of mine just got a GTO a couple months ago that is pretty nice. What kind of gas mileage do you get on the GTO?

-Brandon

Thanks.
Yes soon for sale. The SC/IC kits are removed and soon for sale. AV6 stands now as NA, light weight and ready for J32A2 oriented individual.

My combine average mileage with GTO is 18mi/gal which is good IMO while car being factory rich. Will change that soon with tuning ;)

[02AV6]

Can someone enlighten me on why the domestic guys dislike the GTO? I think it looks pretty nice but they refer to it as the "GOAT."

Why sell the Accord for this? :(

GTO stands for Grand Turismo Omologato which is Italian and GTO is an American car. So the “Goat” is a nickname which came from enthusiasts who didn't want to say the 3 syllables of GTO.

The probable reason the sales have not been impressive was because they decided to call it a GTO. If GM/Pontiac brought this car here and called it something crazy like the Asteroid or the Gazelle, or even simply the Monaro as it is, none of the automotive press or the old GTO faithful would have had anything negative to say about it not being true to the old GTO's appearance. After that, there's really nothing negative anyone has said about the car. But calling it a GTO and pricing it in the low 30's set it up for comparison against the whole retro craze Mustang and Charger/Challengers when its really a non-retro, modern, high-performance, semi-luxury oriented 2+2. Additionally, the fact that it’s an import is not well known.

And here is why I own one:
a. Best value out there
b. Limited production vehicle
c. Corvette LS2 engine with needed back seat and comfy interior
d. Typically change cars every 5 years, so AV6 needs to go and I had fun with it.

Find me a factory vehicle with 400hp/400tq for $24,300 + tax. Yes, that’s what I paid. The GTO is a hit in my book and I appreciate its exclusivity. Who wants to be like everybody else and see one on every corner? I notice maybe 3-4 GTO per week, not thousands of every model/make out there. Bottom line, this is a unique adult sports car I’m happy to own that chirping in 3rd gear and putting bus lengths on 99% cars on the street.

[02AV6]

nice Holden Monaro!

Indeed. Here is front bumper conversion :cool:

http://www.reflections-detailing.net/main/mycars/GTO/Monaro/IMG_0039.jpg

[02AV6]

I dunno, but any car with an LS motor stuffed in it is fine with me. I wish they had GTO's up here. Stupid Canadian bumper laws, we dont even get EVOs :(. So what does the wifey think of the new beast or is she not allowed to drive it LOL.

She wasn’t crazy about it at first since she is totally brand oriented individual who drives X5. Then, I let her drive and she asked if it was turbo :laugh:. Eventually, she calmed down after my friends who own 335i, 911 turbo, E550, 745i, etc. told her it was the right choice for the money and performance. Yet, the difference I would pay for 335i I can put aside and invest into another property within a year and have a free education in 18 years for our 6-mo.old baby twins along with some reward for us. She is happy now :D.

[02AV6]

I see the thread clutter cleaning :up2:

And I still love these 3 shots :D.
Upgrading rims and front bumper Holden Monaro conversion (as shown above) would make it even better. But those mods would probably be last on my list.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_111.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_222.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_000.jpg


BTW, appreciate kind words :up2:. For the rest, read why I bought it.

[BlackV62K2]

Only the SC/IC coming off the AV6? I might be interested in some other toys you have on that car. I'll wait for your posting though. It's ashame I won't be able to use the IC with J30 heads :( or I would be all over that.

I'm assuming the J32 motor is staying in along with the Dr.Evil tranny?

[OKCV6'R]

Find me a factory vehicle with 400hp/400tq for $24,300 + tax. Yes, that’s what I paid. The GTO is a hit in my book and I appreciate its exclusivity. Who wants to be like everybody else and see one on every corner? I notice maybe 3-4 GTO per week, not thousands of every model/make out there. Bottom line, this is a unique adult sports car I’m happy to own that chirping in 3rd gear and putting bus lengths on 99% cars on the street.

AMEN! 24k, what an amazing find for that amazing price!

Yet, the difference I would pay for 335i I can put aside and invest into another property within a year and have a free education in 18 years for our 6-mo.old baby twins along with some reward for us. She is happy now .

:up: Coming from a fellow DAD, its nice to see how well balanced you have your Responsibilities, i.e. looking out for the future/well-being for you family, and at the same time being able/allowing yourself to have a little fun too.

[blk2001tlon19s]

Serge!!!


Actually, I meant to tell you. I was thinking about getting one of these, just decided on something with 4 doors. lol

[OKCV6'R]

Serge!!!


Actually, I meant to tell you. I was thinking about getting one of these, just decided on something with 4 doors. lol

SRT8 Charger?!?! :naughty:

[hAppy]

omfg I love GTOs, but I'm like the only Asian kid that does...

[atanarus]

Nice upgrade Serge! :up2:. Have you had a chance to take it to the dragstrip yet? It'll be interesting to see how it holds up against the AV6 :D

[v6pmemba]

Holy ****, awesome pics :up:.
http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_000.jpg


And I like the Monaro conversion on that dark red GTO :cool:

[Kuya Master]

The fact that it packs a Corvette engine definately makes up for it having a door that is too stubby/short for the rest of its sexy body.

[v6pmemba]

GTO stands for Grand Turismo Omologato which is Italian and GTO is an American car. So the “Goat” is a nickname which came from enthusiasts who didn't want to say the 3 syllables of GTO.

The probable reason the sales have not been impressive was because they decided to call it a GTO. If GM/Pontiac brought this car here and called it something crazy like the Asteroid or the Gazelle, or even simply the Monaro as it is, none of the automotive press or the old GTO faithful would have had anything negative to say about it not being true to the old GTO's appearance. After that, there's really nothing negative anyone has said about the car. But calling it a GTO and pricing it in the low 30's set it up for comparison against the whole retro craze Mustang and Charger/Challengers when its really a non-retro, modern, high-performance, semi-luxury oriented 2+2. Additionally, the fact that it’s an import is not well known.

And here is why I own one:
a. Best value out there
b. Limited production vehicle
c. Corvette LS2 engine with needed back seat and comfy interior
d. Typically change cars every 5 years, so AV6 needs to go and I had fun with it.

Find me a factory vehicle with 400hp/400tq for $24,300 + tax. Yes, that’s what I paid. The GTO is a hit in my book and I appreciate its exclusivity. Who wants to be like everybody else and see one on every corner? I notice maybe 3-4 GTO per week, not thousands of every model/make out there. Bottom line, this is a unique adult sports car I’m happy to own that chirping in 3rd gear and putting bus lengths on 99% cars on the street.

Solid response as usual :up2:.

[arkmann]

I think my next car is going to be a GTO...

How's the gas mileage for that beast?

[stupidaznmunkey]

omfg I love GTOs, but I'm like the only Asian kid that does...
no im asian and i freaking LOVE GTOs - im on gtoforum and i lurk like everyday :D



Find me a factory vehicle with 400hp/400tq for $24,300 + tax. Yes, that’s what I paid. The GTO is a hit in my book and I appreciate its exclusivity. Who wants to be like everybody else and see one on every corner? I notice maybe 3-4 GTO per week, not thousands of every model/make out there. Bottom line, this is a unique adult sports car I’m happy to own that chirping in 3rd gear and putting bus lengths on 99% cars on the street.

that is exactly why i love the GTO - best bang for the buck. :)

[JHAWK13]

Why did you choose the Odyssey PC680T, i thought that Autos had to use the PC925 series? With a 6.0 V8 680 Cold cranking amps is enough? Could i put the PC680T in my 7th gen V6?

[SixSpeeder]

After I get rid of my STi, I may wait a couple years and then pick the Pontiac G8 that comes out in September.

Very good choice on a very clean car. Stay safe and keep that traction control on! I know how easy those rear tires break loose!

[Lxcord]

^ the G8 looks so sweet !

i can't wait for the new challenger also.

so many good choices coming up !

[Accord_V6_400m]

Great GTO Serge :up2:

Personally the Holden bumper conversion makes the front end look more like a MS6. Take the car to the strip already :D

[kramer2k]

After I get rid of my STi, I may wait a couple years and then pick the Pontiac G8 that comes out in September. :drool:

[-MiltDoggie-]

Sweet!!! Very Sweet!!!

[02AV6]

Only the SC/IC coming off the AV6? I might be interested in some other toys you have on that car. I'll wait for your posting though. It's ashame I won't be able to use the IC with J30 heads or I would be all over that.

I'm assuming the J32 motor is staying in along with the Dr.Evil tranny

Probably yes just SC/IC.
I'd like to sell the car with complete J32A2 engine (only 12000 mi)/Dr.Evil/CT headers and wideband/torque damper/poly mounts/light weight 16" rims/Eibach springs/KYB shocks/SEIBON carbon fiber OEM style hood.

My guess is you can fit IC if you go with J32 (front/rear) injector base which is lower manifold with required CL-S injectors. Or I actually include larger flow S2K injectors (same fitment size as CL-S). Of course test fitment should be done but I'm throwing food for thought. The CL-S injector base has round shape runners while AV6 is flat on one side but with gaskets it might be fine. The best way to find out is to purchase CL-S manifold gasket, remove stock IM (intake manifold) and see how it looks. You would put AV6 gasket on top of CL-S gasket and it should cover it but as long as it’s not way off then it will work just fine.


Coming from a fellow DAD, its nice to see how well balanced you have your Responsibilities, i.e. looking out for the future/well-being for you family, and at the same time being able/allowing yourself to have a little fun too.

Trying my best because responsibilities have definitively changed since kids were born, however since I work hard or should say smart, I deserved good toys too. ;)


Actually, I meant to tell you. I was thinking about getting one of these, just decided on something with 4 doors. lol


Depends on what you looking for.
335i sedan is great if interior space is not a concern. The only thing I would add is PROcede $1300 piggyback and exhaust to make it more fun with strong power band and healthy 340-360whp otherwise stock they pull 275-280 at the wheels including torque. Yes, Charger SRT8 maybe with weight reduction. New G35 sedan is great too, drove as rental X model and liked it.
Another idea just popped is to try LS2 Caddy CTS-V (sedan with Corvette engine) :yes:.

Have you had a chance to take it to the dragstrip yet? It'll be interesting to see how it holds up against the AV6

Don't plan on tracking for a while. Lack of time is a first reason and second I'd rather be ready in terms of suspension/tires before hitting the track. The stock rubber is only 245mm wide and I'd like to get 275 (rear) which required fender roller to fit. I'll wait for complete bolt-ons and custom tuning done.



I think my next car is going to be a GTO...
How's the gas mileage for that beast?

18mpg combine driving with occasional burst of acceleration. Heavy foot? 13-14mpg maybe. As mentioned, basic tuning helps to remove the factory rich tune which might get you an improvement of almost 20mpg.

And I highly recommend a polyurethane bushing kit and specifically Noltec 2 engine mounts which is a must to improve the ride control, keep the car planted and eliminate any wheel hop upon hard acceleration. This should be a stage 1 along with posted weight reduction shown on page 1. Another thing is LS2 heat soak kit to move IAT sensor away from the radiator hose which pulls timing impacting performance due to rising heat.

Why did you choose the Odyssey PC680T, i thought that Autos had to use the PC925 series? With a 6.0 V8 680 Cold cranking amps is enough? Could i put the PC680T in my 7th gen V6?

Weight reduction is the main reason while cranking enough amps (stock ACDelco rates at 690) and while 925 has better CCA the difference is minimal except it’s heavy. Yep, I basically transferred 680 from my AV6 and if you noticed used Comptech battery tie down. Combine that with UD pulley and your drivability will be improved. If it’s your DD than use it.

After I get rid of my STi, I may wait a couple years and then pick the Pontiac G8 that comes out in September.

Very good choice on a very clean car. Stay safe and keep that traction control on! I know how easy those rear tires break loose!

G8 is promising :up2:

Thanks. As far as traction, I actually turn it OFF :winkgrin:. I have 2 extra sets of sticky 245/45/17s left over from AV6 and with bushings kit, motor mounts and drag bags the car just takes off once you learn how to you control the throttle.

[02AV6]

BTW, here is a nice 2 page GTO brochure with color choices and specs - http://www.gm.com/automotive/vehicle_shopping/quickfacts/pdf/06Pontiac_GTO.pdf

Notice the automatic 1/4 mile performance is better

4AT - 13.0 @ 108mph and 0-60 in 4.6 sec :naughty:
6MT - 13.1 @ 108mph and 0-60 in 4.7 sec.

Many also reported break into 12sec too with optimal results and traction.
And generally speaking automatic guys post faster and consistent results.

[SixSpeeder]

The 6speed dodged the gas guzzler tax when they were new which was about $2500 if I recall. I'm sure that 1/10 of a second could be more than made up with $2500 in mods and driving fun factor.

I don't know if I could own an auto performance oriented car. I don't feel like I have as much control of the car when I'm driving an auto.

[BlackV62K2]

CTS-V is nice but @ $53,000 I would look elsewhere. The 335i is looking more and more appealing with simple chip and exhaust that ups the performance of the car by quite a huge margin. For the price you paid for the GTO and performance you're getting, you can't go wrong.

I myself will be looking at 335i maybe in the next year or so.

[02AV6]

I'm sure that 1/10 of a second could be more than made up with $2500 in mods and driving fun factor.

I don't know if I could own an auto performance oriented car. I don't feel like I have as much control of the car when I'm driving an auto.

You can and mods go either way regardless of transmission which is 20% (auto) and 15% drivetrain loss as has been reported.

I stuck in traffic too much daily, so it's obvious choice. However, I always manual shift when traffic clears up and 4L65 respond exactly as I want it :up2:

[02AV6]

CTS-V is nice but @ $53,000 I would look elsewhere. The 335i is looking more and more appealing with simple chip and exhaust that ups the performance of the car by quite a huge margin. For the price you paid for the GTO and performance you're getting, you can't go wrong.

I myself will be looking at 335i maybe in the next year or so.

Not brand new. CTS-V goes for $38,500 with just under 5000mi (well at least in Chicago area) and has more room than 335i. Which car is totally subjective and depends on personal goal.

BTW, here is a 335i dyno (before/after) with STD correction. Yep, just ECU interceptor (chip) + exhaust :up:.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/shivpathak/Fernando.jpg

[02AV6]

Now, look what '06 GTO can do with complete bolt-ons/custom camshaft kit + tuning :naughty:. And on the same dyno and STD correction as 335i above could put better numbers.

stock/modded
http://gagtos.com/rsr679/Woody%20Tiger-Shark.jpg

[stupidaznmunkey]

yeah freakin 335...exhaust and chip ftw

anyway, 02av6, no S/C on the gto? hahah i seen some youtube videos with it and it sounds SICKKKK :p

[SteVTEC]

I stuck in traffic too much daily, so it's obvious choice. However, I always manual shift when traffic clears up and 4L65 respond exactly as I want it :up2:Aren't GM transmissions wonderful? :cool:

[SixSpeeder]

As to the 335 vs. the CTS-V... compare the prices in mods. There is probably a huge difference. The only advantage for the BMW motor is that it is FI and something as simple as a chip can create big gains. Once you want to go past a simple chip, you are talking some serious money. Whereas the LS2 is shared by so many cars it's possibilities are endless and relatively cheap.

[imnotmatt1189]

You can and mods go either way regardless of transmission which is 20% (auto) and 15% drivetrain loss as has been reported.

I stuck in traffic too much daily, so it's obvious choice. However, I always manual shift when traffic clears up and 4L65 respond exactly as I want it :up2:

that's cool that the manual shift actually responds how you want it to. i've driven a acura tsx at and a bmw 5 series at and on both of them i HATED the auto-manual shift because it would shift for you even when you wanted to shift a tiny bit later. and the shifts were like 1 second slow too. annoyed the chit out of me. i'm gonna have to drive a gto at to see how the at transmissions are. :D

[Eloy213]

The 6speed dodged the gas guzzler tax when they were new which was about $2500 if I recall. I'm sure that 1/10 of a second could be more than made up with $2500 in mods and driving fun factor.

I don't know if I could own an auto performance oriented car. I don't feel like I have as much control of the car when I'm driving an auto.
Dude... you just hit the nail in the head. Exactly my thoughts.

[02AV6]

Aren't GM transmissions wonderful? :cool:

that's cool that the manual shift actually responds how you want it to. i've driven a acura tsx at and a bmw 5 series at and on both of them i HATED the auto-manual shift because it would shift for you even when you wanted to shift a tiny bit later. and the shifts were like 1 second slow too. annoyed the chit out of me. i'm gonna have to drive a gto at to see how the at transmissions are. :D


Seems pretty good.
Manually shift here a lot and its fun to drop to 2nd while making a turn then apply some throttle until about 3000 rpm to feel the TORQUE and then shift to 3rd. I would still prefer the MM mode as we used to have in our G35 5AT or paddle shifters. Reliability as I heard is good over older 4L60-E. Also this past weekend I was able to hold the 3rd gear up to 130mph then shift to 4 and went up to 145mph on the open stretch. This was the fastest I’ve ever done here except autobahn but the idea behind it was to test if shifting needed to 4th once going over 118-120. That is the target trap I’m looking for after bolt-ons/cam/tune at the end of 1320 ft. 3rd it is from now on :D.

Disclaimer: Klepto if you reading this, the above mph was a dream. It was only a dream ;).

[02AV6]

As to the 335 vs. the CTS-V... compare the prices in mods. There is probably a huge difference. The only advantage for the BMW motor is that it is FI and something as simple as a chip can create big gains. Once you want to go past a simple chip, you are talking some serious money. Whereas the LS2 is shared by so many cars it's possibilities are endless and relatively cheap.

BMW mods overall are more expensive especially when going for FI and tune and I know some guys who got rid E46 M3 and opted for LS2 Corvette.

And 50% of 335i owners plan to stick to chip only, while the rest of 50% will upgrade to chip + exhaust of their choice. Otherwise they’ll face the reliability/warranty issues if going further and of course mega bucks. And you can’t go further without upgrading turbo since Mitsubishi made stockers already running close to 14psi as with PROcede and they’ll run out of steam right after. And yes LS2 is a different animal which is easy to mod and responds great to anything from NA to FI.

BTW, the upcoming E92 M3 is promising winner in every category sports coupe running mid-12s from the factory :up2: as I heard. Here is the cool Canadian site to check – http://www.bmw.com/ca/en/index_highend_popup.html?prm_popup=../../ca/en/newvehicles/mseries/m3coupe/2007/_highend/xml/popup.xml


However, my GTO will be ready to spank new M3 :D.

[imnotmatt1189]

Seems pretty good.
Manually shift here a lot and its fun to drop to 2nd while making a turn then apply some throttle until about 3000 rpm to feel the TORQUE and then shift to 3rd. I would still prefer the MM mode as we used to have in our G35 5AT or paddle shifters. Reliability as I heard is good over older 4L60-E. Also this past weekend I was able to hold the 3rd gear up to 130mph then shift to 4 and went up to 145mph on the open stretch. This was the fastest I’ve ever done here except autobahn but the idea behind it was to test if shifting needed to 4th once going over 118-120. That is the target trap I’m looking for after bolt-ons/cam/tune at the end of 1320 ft. 3rd it is from now on :D.

Disclaimer: Klepto if you reading this, the above mph was a dream. It was only a dream ;).

hahahah

mannnnn 145mph :eek:

i reached 137mph on the way to SoCal yesterday... it was a dream ;)
it was pretty scary though. hahah

[mista jc]

Very nice upgrade bro. Nice camera too.

[Lxcord]

However, my GTO will be ready to spank new M3 :D.


no offense but i would take the E92 M3 anyday over any GM V8.

I love the LS series engines, but ever since BMW made the S62 motor(E39 M5), and all the technological stuff like ITB's, Vanos, Dry-Sump, it just shows how amazing M power engines are. And the new V8 in the M3 is going to be a 8400 RPM masterpiece.
:cool:

PS: Guess who made the engine for the MCLaren F1 ? :D

[Accord_V6_400m]

no offense but i would take the E92 M3 anyday over any GM V8.

I love the LS series engines, but ever since BMW made the S62 motor(E39 M5), and all the technological stuff like ITB's, Vanos, Dry-Sump, it just shows how amazing M power engines are. And the new V8 in the M3 is going to be a 8400 RPM masterpiece.
:cool:

PS: Guess who made the engine for the MCLaren F1 ? :D

Guess what the displacement of the F1 motor is ;)

[kleptodathief]

rn't F1 cars around 725bhp? and how bout that rookie guy lewis hamilton??? hes tearing it up!

[blackhawk411]

I hear CTS-V's are not very reliable...they're great cars I wish I could own one myself but with that kind of pricetag+reliability issues I don't know. But I would take the CTS-V over 335i anyday.

[02AV6]

no offense but i would take the E92 M3 anyday over any GM V8.

I love the LS series engines, but ever since BMW made the S62 motor(E39 M5), and all the technological stuff like ITB's, Vanos, Dry-Sump, it just shows how amazing M power engines are. And the new V8 in the M3 is going to be a 8400 RPM masterpiece.
:cool:




None taken and I don’t think it would be a fair comparison for GTO due to different category/price range/package except that both have V8. And E92 M3 is going to deliver a complete package from the factory and its better be hell of a package at almost $70K price. What I’m saying is if I see E92 M3 making some stunts next to me, I'll let him enjoy GTO taillights and smell my exhaust. Believe me, I’ll be ready :yes:.

[mseebs]

Nice. Gotta love the goat. Style wise, I'd take the accord. But power wise and tranny doesn't suck a lot wise, the goat is a good choice.

Have fun and keep us updated when you push 600whp. ;-)

[Dinzdale40]

nice car but i don't think weight reduction is gonna work well on that car...since you bought it to have a rear seat you can't remove that, which is one of the main weight reductions that would give good results....removing one thing isn't gonna make a difference...you gotta remove a bunch of stuff to make a difference...especially with all that torque...90lbs is not gonna be felt like it would on the AV6...heck the Av6 at full weight is like 3350...the weight of the GTO is kinda ridiculous in comparison...

[mseebs]

nice car but i don't think weight reduction is gonna work well on that car...since you bought it to have a rear seat you can't remove that, which is one of the main weight reductions that would give good results....removing one thing isn't gonna make a difference...you gotta remove a bunch of stuff to make a difference...especially with all that torque...90lbs is not gonna be felt like it would on the AV6...heck the Av6 at full weight is like 3350...the weight of the GTO is kinda ridiculous in comparison...

The goat's only had 3700lbs. or so, which considering it's a V8, is not really bad.

The 500lb. difference would be that difference of 2 cylinders.

The GTO also can run a low 13 second 1/4 mile stock. Our AV6s are lucky to even hit a high 15 second 1/4 mile. So I do not find the 500lbs. difference "ridiculous." :D

[Dinzdale40]

The goat's only had 3700lbs. or so, which considering it's a V8, is not really bad.

The 500lb. difference would be that difference of 2 cylinders.

The GTO also can run a low 13 second 1/4 mile stock. Our AV6s are lucky to even hit a high 15 second 1/4 mile. So I do not find the 500lbs. difference "ridiculous." :D

i agree with that...my point is...that 500lbs didn't matter as much because of the higher hp and tq of the motor...weight reduction isn't gonna make the car that much faster than it already is....and im definitely not saying that it can't be done...but if he wants a backseat then i don't think that he is willing to make the sacrifices needed to make a difference....in fact stock C5 Corvettes also run 13s and they weigh 3250ish..

[v6_ccord_2k5]

I dont know why, but I see a GTO in my future... lol.

I really HOPE there is one!

[02AV6]

nice car but i don't think weight reduction is gonna work well on that car...since you bought it to have a rear seat you can't remove that, which is one of the main weight reductions that would give good results....removing one thing isn't gonna make a difference...you gotta remove a bunch of stuff to make a difference...especially with all that torque...90lbs is not gonna be felt like it would on the AV6...heck the Av6 at full weight is like 3350...the weight of the GTO is kinda ridiculous in comparison...


FYI

Weight reduction is a cheap and effective mod to free up power along with better acceleration and braking. Stating that 90lbs absolutely does nothing on the car you don't own or can be ineffective is plain WRONG. And I'm not done yet with upcoming light weight wheels and fiber glass hood which trim another 70lbs. Changing cast iron headers to stainless steel will drop another 15-20 lbs and there is also a 20lbs gas tank brace where people typically remove at the track. Add all up and you have a very effective weight reduction you will certainly feel daily and on the track. Yep, neither ripping the rear seats nor changing the interior. You’re either get all out or not at all. Not the case here. And removing weight from the front of the RWD car is where you get the best results but every bit helps regardless.

According to your logic my 3635lbs (as of now) and over 400hp/tq is ridiculous. Then compare to upcoming G37 auto coupe with stated 3668lbs or current auto TL-S at 3674 lbs. How about 3900lbs+ other V8 coupes? And why do you compare to stock AV6 is beyond me? I’ll be extremely happy with 200lbs reduction over stock without touching both the interior and exterior while also making much more power.

BTW, C5 Corvette runs on LS1 and clocks 13s and C6 runs mid-12s with LS2, the same engine as mine ;)

[Accord_V6_400m]

FYI

Weight reduction is a cheap and effective mod to free up power along with better acceleration and braking. Stating that 90lbs absolutely does nothing on the car you don't own or can be ineffective is plain WRONG. And I'm not done yet with upcoming light weight wheels and fiber glass hood which trim another 70lbs. Changing cast iron headers to stainless steel will drop another 15-20 lbs and there is also a 20lbs gas tank brace where people typically remove at the track. Add all up and you have a very effective weight reduction you will certainly feel daily and on the track. Yep, neither ripping the rear seats nor changing the interior. You’re either get all out or not at all. Not the case here. And removing weight from the front of the RWD car is where you get the best results but every bit helps regardless.

According to your logic my 3635lbs (as of now) and over 400hp/tq is ridiculous. Then compare to upcoming G37 auto coupe with stated 3668lbs or current auto TL-S at 3674 lbs. How about 3900lbs+ other V8 coupes? And why do you compare to stock AV6 is beyond me? I’ll be extremely happy with 200lbs reduction over stock without touching both the interior and exterior while also making much more power.

BTW, C5 Corvette runs on LS1 and clocks 13s and C6 runs mid-12s with LS2, the same engine as mine ;)

Maybe he was refering to the fact that proportionally the same weight reduction would have more of an effect on a lighter car such as a civic hatch vs your GTO, the whole power to weight ratio, if you will.

[02AV6]

Maybe he was refering to the fact that proportionally the same weight reduction would have more of an effect on a lighter car such as a civic hatch vs your GTO, the whole power to weight ratio, if you will.

You guys crack me up. Why not bring Lotus Elise then with 1900lbs and try to remove 90lbs +. Both Civic or Elise don’t' have those heavy items I removed from GTO in the first place. I failed to see the real comparison here since these are completely different vehicles in weight, type and power. Of course light cars will benefit more and require less power. Civic can be gutted and with just 260 whp can run good time. GTO on the other hand is semi-luxury 2+2 coupe with full interior, leather and all features you need yet it makes decent power and easy to mod if one desires. Regardless, as stated I already feel difference in braking, acceleration and minimal in gas mileage with 90lbs removed and goal is to approach 200lbs while retaining the full interior or exterior features. Well, maybe a light weight hood replacement which looks like stock.

[Lxcord]

serge don't listen to those 2 guys, they are just import tuners, and they think their accord is ace of all cards :D


the fact that you have an LS2 at your disposal alone is a cause for celebration.

No V6, or 4 Cylinder be it NA or FI is going to have the instant torque like an LS2.

probably not even the S62, but that's another story :D

[Accord_V6_400m]

You guys crack me up. Why not bring Lotus Elise then with 1900lbs and try to remove 90lbs +. Both Civic or Elise don’t' have those heavy items I removed from GTO in the first place. I failed to see the real comparison here since these are completely different vehicles in weight, type and power. Of course light cars will benefit more and require less power. Civic can be gutted and with just 260 whp can run good time. GTO on the other hand is semi-luxury 2+2 coupe with full interior, leather and all features you need yet it makes decent power and easy to mod if one desires. Regardless, as stated I already feel difference in braking, acceleration and minimal in gas mileage with 90lbs removed and goal is to approach 200lbs while retaining the full interior or exterior features. Well, maybe a light weight hood replacement which looks like stock.

Just playing devils advocate here :p

Do you want me to bring out the cross for you Serge? :D

[03aV6cpe]

i've always wanted a gto...just to have :)

[02AV6]

serge don't listen to those 2 guys, they are just import tuners, and they think their accord is ace of all cards :D


the fact that you have an LS2 at your disposal alone is a cause for celebration.

No V6, or 4 Cylinder be it NA or FI is going to have the instant torque like an LS2.

probably not even the S62, but that's another story :D

LS2 is great and the only weak point is the heat soak issue which is pretty stupid how GM/Holden has done on '06 GTO by placing IAT right next to HOT radiator hose. It kills the performance within 30 minutes of driving or bumper to bumper traffic since ECU pulls timing. I already resolved the issue and my diagnostic software has shown - 30 degree :eek: in temperature reduction (both idle/driving) and now the car is running great and consistent :up2:.

And I'll never be a fanboi of specific engine ;). I know what the world has to offer and now choose what I like based on both performance and price.

[SIRSIG]

LS2 is great and the only weak point is the heat soak issue which is pretty stupid how GM/Holden has done on '06 GTO by placing IAT right next to HOT radiator hose. It kills the performance within 30 minutes of driving or bumper to bumper traffic since ECU pulls timing. I already resolved the issue and my diagnostic software has shown - 30 degree :eek: in temperature reduction (both idle/driving) and now the car is running great and consistent :up2:.

And I'll never be a fanboi of specific engine ;). I know what the world has to offer and now choose what I like based on both performance and price.

can't you just cover that IAT with some heat wrap or something? i can't imagine how scary to be in a 11sec car :shudder:

[02AV6]

can't you just cover that IAT with some heat wrap or something? i can't imagine how scary to be in a 11sec car :shudder:

I did use motorcycle exhaust wrap bandage and I’ve seen 10-12* reduction which is not bad, but with relocation kit I now see 30* :cool:. I’ll post pics.

Yep 11sec is a serious machine running daily which should be done by the end of this year. BTW, last week scheduled a custom tuning on Dynojet coming July 9 which will be dived into two parts:
1. Current mods (in signature)
2. Come back later this year with added LT headers + cam

[OKCV6'R]

2. Come back later this year with added LT headers + cam

LT headers + cam= :drool:

With all of that and proper tune, that will be one sick goat!

[kramer2k]

LT headers + cam= :drool:
:werd:

[Accord_V6_400m]

I did use motorcycle exhaust wrap bandage and I’ve seen 10-12* reduction which is not bad, but with relocation kit I now see 30* :cool:. I’ll post pics.

Yep 11sec is a serious machine running daily which should be done by the end of this year. BTW, last week scheduled a custom tuning on Dynojet coming July 9 which will be dived into two parts:
1. Current mods (in signature)
2. Come back later this year with added LT headers + cam

So heres a question for you considering you like the relocation kit on the GTO, what do you think of the relocation kit on the 6th gens that come with the V2's?

[02AV6]

LT headers + cam= :drool:

With all of that and proper tune, that will be one sick goat!

That's right. Heck, even first stage tuning with current mods going to wake up the car and my suspension is ready :up2:.

[02AV6]

So heres a question for you considering you like the relocation kit on the GTO, what do you think of the relocation kit on the 6th gens that come with the V2's?

I haven't seen IAT on V2 for AV6 but without ECU tuning it will do nothing. In fact it makes things worse considering IAT is relocated away from heat and the colder the temps the more fuel ECU dumps on already rich AFR.

Guess what? GTO has complete ECU tuning capabilities (Predator or HPE) to take full advantage of mods along with stock configuration :D. Not the case with AV6 regardless of generation . Apexi SAFC II or NEO piggybacks are the only ones that might improve AFR on NA Accords. Unichip I believe was too but dependence and inconvenience on authorized tuner shops along with price is what killed it.

[OKCV6'R]

That's right. Heck, even first stage tuning with current mods going to wake up the car and my suspension is ready :up2:.

DEFINITELY!! I cant wait to see numbers once all said and done. BTW- Not sure of numbers, but when my best friend bought his '05 GT, he told me that other guys that he knew with just CAI/Cam and proper tune on their GT's, were so damn impressed with the numbers they put down. Oh the beauty of V8/NA muscle!!

[v6pmemba]

Can't wait for your dyno numbers, man. Good luck with it and thanks for sharing the info :up:. I'm sure this thread would be a book of knowledge for those who going to pick up a GTO while still available. I might be the one :D, with modded suspension only.

[v6pmemba]

Oh yeah, and the rear end E92 M3 going to see :D.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_444.jpg

[SweetMt6speed]

Oh yeah, and the rear end E92 M3 going to see :D.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_444.jpg
Hey TONY, just remember...when you race take off your gold chains and remove your photo album of your prior Mustangs. Ha! Just kidding!

[Kuya Master]

'06 GTO 4AT- LPE intake/SLP ud pulley/oil catch can/engine mounts/Energy bushings/drag bags/160* t-stat/weight reduction
I was looking at the R&T test data for this car, and it comes in at a 13.5 1/4-mile. Go figure that after I say in the Transformers thread that GM will never get money from me, I'm considering this stupidly hot bargain of a car (if I can find one that's new, and not used). Anyway, an IS350 got a 13.5 in the 2/07 issue of R&T. I find it strange that a car with almost 100 less HP and only 200-300 lbs less, can get the same acceleration as a monster V8.

I want a 12 second car, so I'm obviously going to have to keep an eye on what 02AV6 is doing to see if it can break that barrier with relative ease. Also, are there any CARB legal performance parts for the car? It's easy to find a ton of parts for the LS engines, but most of them aren't legal here in CA.

[SteVTEC]

There was another big thread here somewhere, but I think some GTO's will do 12's stock. And whereas the Lexus IS350 motor is already tapped out and you'll be hard pressed to get more performance out of it short of boosting (like the 350z), the LS2 with 400hp is literally just getting started. You can get 500+hp out of those things no problem just with bolt-ons, a tune, and maybe a "mild" cam. The IS350 won't touch that at that point without boost.

[Kuya Master]

Thanks Steve. I did a search and all the GTOs in my area are automatics. :(

[SteVTEC]

So? The 4L60E is GREAT for dragging especially if you're thinking of modding, and there's all sorts of performance rebuilds and shift kits for them. :D

[Accord_V6_400m]

I like the GTO and I think it looks nice :)

Jsandiego hit a point though when he said "don't call it a GTO" thats probably Pontiacs worst mistake when it comes down to it.

As for power its no contest that the LS2 in the GTO is by far superior 6.0>4.6

[BlackV62K2]

As I previously said before....anything with an LS motor is one sweet ass ride. I think the guys that dump huge amounts of money into trying to make some slow import go fast (i.e. the Accord) will end up appreciating domestic cars more. I'm liking domestic cars more and more everyday :p. A few years ago I used to hate them.

[Kuya Master]

I happen to like how the GTO looks, except that it has stubby door syndrome. But looking at the prices for new ones (I can't believe after two years they're still selling new ones), and having been in one, it's a bargain. It really is a GT car. It's quite well-mannered for something so powerful. I think the reason people didn't get it was because it didn't resemble the "old school" look of the previous GTOs. I also prefer the Monaro look. Can someone provide a link to the conversion kit 02AV6 posted a picture of?

[SixSpeeder]

Ok, I just edited the thread. If anyone else wants to add anything that is not constructive to this thread, you'll be sure to be sent on a small vacation from the site.

[SteVTEC]

ROFL.

I think the GTO looks hot compared to a certain other blue oval vehicle but that's just me. The biggest reason the GTO didn't sell well in the US is because it was imported from the Aussies and they just couldn't get the cost low enough to hit the sweet spot of their target market, which is F-body owners. Trade magazines specifically said that was the biggest reason, from interviews with "Maximum Bob [Lutz]" himself. And then it "only" had the 350hp LS1 and no hood scoop for the first year due to too much red tape in the EPA. And then it was only a V8, as a GTO should be. The "certain other" blue oval machines I see are pretty much all V6 crapmatics driven by women. Holden is in the middle of redesigning the entire platform which is why it was discontinued after '06. An equivalent will be back in Chevy Camaro form with the LS2 at least, possibly cylinder deactivation, and at the proper $20-30k price points, and I can't wait. :angel:

Anyways, the theme here at V6P is positive and constructive discussion, so if you're just going to dish out bigoted and narrow minded bashing then don't even bother posting. BTW, even the 40 year old "donkey cart" live axle setup on the blue oval machine has its merits. For one thing it's a lot simpler than the final drive on an independent rear car, they hold power a ton better and also dyno better, and when you're drag racing, a live axle setup will put the power down way better than cars with indy rears since they eliminate wheel hop for the most part. Far more Mustang owners drag race their cars than autocross or road course them, so they left the live axle in to appeal to the people that buy them better. Why the fawk would they try to make the car appeal to snobby and arrogant import owners and put a "cooler sounding" independent rear end in the car when they're not going to buy it anyways, and when the live axle works a lot better for how Mustang owners tend to drive and use their cars? From what I've read the live axle setup rides and handles pretty good anyways. Last gen Mustang Cobra owners would commonly REMOVE the indy rear setup and put BACK in a live axle since they wanted to drag race and didn't want to deal with all the problems that indy rears can cause at the strip. And actually it was a pretty ingenious design by the blue oval guys to be able to develop a completely modular rear end setup to accomodate either type of setup.


oops did I say mustang? :angel:

[SteVTEC]

As I previously said before....anything with an LS motor is one sweet ass ride. I think the guys that dump huge amounts of money into trying to make some slow import go fast (i.e. the Accord) will end up appreciating domestic cars more. I'm liking domestic cars more and more everyday :p. A few years ago I used to hate them.
It's only a matter of time before I get my first domestic car. :)

[SixSpeeder]

Are you thinking G8 Steve?

[02AV6]

I was looking at the R&T test data for this car, and it comes in at a 13.5 1/4-mile. Go figure that after I say in the Transformers thread that GM will never get money from me, I'm considering this stupidly hot bargain of a car (if I can find one that's new, and not used). Anyway, an IS350 got a 13.5 in the 2/07 issue of R&T. I find it strange that a car with almost 100 less HP and only 200-300 lbs less, can get the same acceleration as a monster V8.

I want a 12 second car, so I'm obviously going to have to keep an eye on what 02AV6 is doing to see if it can break that barrier with relative ease. Also, are there any CARB legal performance parts for the car? It's easy to find a ton of parts for the LS engines, but most of them aren't legal here in CA.


You should know by now that magazines times should be taken with grain of salt. In addition, not many running a full-tank of gas with spare and equipment on the strip and keep stock tire pressure ;). And IS350 won't touch one with bolt-ons.

Once you upgrade major bushings and engine mounts along with recommended REAR drag 5/16" taller springs (still comfortable ride) it will run 12s all day long with good tires and track condition and enough guys posted 12s in bone stock condition with cooler temps.

OFFICIAL LS2 Stock:

1) PhantomGoat06 12.88 @ 108.9
2) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
3) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89 MPH
4) 05torridred60 12.971 @ 108 MPH - SAP mufflers
5) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
6) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
7) GTOboss 13.007 @ 108.52mph
8) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
9) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
10) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
11) SLoW SHO 13.082 @ 108.15
12) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
13) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
14) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH
15) Lord Vador 13.132 @ 108.85 MPH


JBA short headers are CARB along with drop-in K&N filter. Resolve IAT heat soak issue + custom tuning along with above bushings and you're good for mid 12s.

I did a search and all the GTOs in my area are automatics. :(

Hey I'm happy with my 4L65E and getting installed B&M tranny cooler tomorrow.
BTW, the above official ET are mostly won by automatics ;).

[02AV6]

I also prefer the Monaro look. Can someone provide a link to the conversion kit 02AV6 posted a picture of?

Here are different angle pics. The kit obviously available through Australian vendors on ls2gto.com


http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/Monaro001.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/Monaro002.jpg

... more below

[02AV6]

And more Holden Monaro.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/MonaroCV8018.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/MonaroCV8030.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/HRJ/Brakes006.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/HRJ/Brakes007.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/MonaroCV8038.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/MonaroCV8004.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b368/HRJ2/MonaroCV8050.jpg

There is another kit called GTO by HSV (Holden Special Vehicles) but I've seen couple pics.

[SixSpeeder]

Such a clean car.

[Kuya Master]

Sweet. Thanks Serge. I don't know if you appreciate me being a "copycat", but if I can get my parents to agree to help me get this car, I want it. The shape of the car doesn't make the "stubby door syndrome" look as bad as it does on Toyota Solaras. It's actually almost as proportionate to the 6th Gen AV6 SDS, so it's not so bad that I can't stand to look at it.

If I get the car, expect me to ask you for links on where to get the bushings and whatnot. Also, is it still relatively easy to break into the 12s without the "taller springs"? I don't like it when one end of the car is higher than the other. It makes the sideskirts/rocker-panels look stupid when one end is higher off the ground than the other... to me. I'll be getting my headers (again, if I am lucky enough to get the car) coated by Jet Hot, so hopefully that will help with the Intake Air Temprature.

[02AV6]

Such a clean car.

Indeed, now I'm thinking to remove the rear spoiler as many did. Not saying for sure, my kind of sort of ;). Thoughts?

[02AV6]

Sweet. Thanks Serge. I don't know if you appreciate me being a "copycat", but if I can get my parents to agree to help me get this car, I want it. The shape of the car doesn't make the "stubby door syndrome" look as bad as it does on Toyota Solaras. It's actually almost as proportionate to the 6th Gen AV6 SDS, so it's not so bad that I can't stand to look at it.

If I get the car, expect me to ask you for links on where to get the bushings and whatnot. Also, is it still relatively easy to break into the 12s without the "taller springs"? I don't like it when one end of the car is higher than the other. It makes the sideskirts/rocker-panels look stupid when one end is higher off the ground than the other... to me. I'll be getting my headers (again, if I am lucky enough to get the car) coated by Jet Hot, so hopefully that will help with the Intake Air Temprature.


Go right ahead.

Pedders Street I is a minimum suspension package you need – educate yourself here http://westfield-et.com/index.php?cPath=21_37
As far as rear 5/16” taller springs, they are barely noticeable but provide excellent hook up from the line. Another alternative are drag bags which are popular and cost less (9-10psi street and 15-20 drag use) - http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com/performance_parts/index.html?item=642. Noltec engine mounts I strongly believe are a must and DO NOT make any cabin vibration (see pic below). Well, I don’t feel any inconvenience (firm, but not extremely rough). Also, as mentioned the weight reduction will help a lot especially if follow me without sacrificing the interior/exterior features (exclude hood and rims).

Noltec engine mounts:

http://www.noltecsuspension.com/images/products/N92930.jpg

And IAT relocation or what I did is a must regardless of coating headers along with a tranny cooler and 160* t-stat.

[Kuya Master]

And IAT relocation or what I did is a must regardless of coating headers along with a tranny cooler and 160* t-stat.
I clicked on the links to both the Pedders bushings and the drag bags, but didn't see anything there about the IAT relocation. I found the thermostat, and I'm assuming I can get a transmission cooler at my local transmission shop. Could you link up where the IAT modification is located?

I really want this car now. All I need is something that runs 12s, and rides nice and with all the data you've provided and I've found around the net, that'll be way easy.

[SixSpeeder]

Indeed, now I'm thinking to remove the rear spoiler as many did. Not saying for sure, my kind of sort of ;). Thoughts?



Um... I like little lip spoilers in the rear of cars. If I was keeping my car, I would ditch my whale tail and put the STi Limited rear spoiler on. So, maybe ditch the big spoiler in change of a small lip if there is one made. I think your car would also completly change in looks with some wheels.

[kramer2k]

:iagree:

That yellow Manaro that you posted, Serge, is amazing looking IMO. It has a...Maserati look to it. :cool: That may be a stretch for some people, but the lines are so smooth. And if my eyes aren't deceiving me, the trunk has a slight lip on it. A lip spoiler would look killer on your goat.

[Kuya Master]

I vote for keeping the spoiler.

[02AV6]

Thanks for feedback, guys :up2:. I might probably remove the spoiler down the road when I upgrade rims. And I really thinking about solid black SSR which unfortunately don’t come in 5x120 bolt pattern with anthracite + polished lip the one I had in my AV6. I don’t know maybe going to ask FIXRIM to make a custom polished lip on it which should look great and be different. This time I’ll go with 18” since 17” look a little small on GTO and still get decent weight reduction with 19lbs vs 26lbs (stock 17”). Well, blame the weight reduction :D so the plan is to upgrade rims, lighter but better DBA rotors and possible wing removal sometime next year.

My previous SSR Competition AV6 rims
http://www.tirerack.com//images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_competition_ci3_l.jpg

SSR Type C-RS rims with probably needed custom polished lip for GTO.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/swap/ssr_typec_rs_anth_ci3_l.jpg

DBA rotors
http://www.tirerack.com/images/brakes/search/medium/dba_4000slotted_grey.jpg

[02AV6]

Now to the great news:
Today, had custom tuning done on Dynojet.
Guess what? With 94* heat pulled

362whp/352wtq SAE :vampire:

:banana2:

Current engine mods are only LPE (Lingenfelter) Intake, SLP UD pulley and MSD 8.5mm spark plug wires. Next are Kooks 1 7/8” coated headers, custom cam with upgraded springs, 3200 stall torque converter right after winter next year.

I’ll post a dyno chart tomorrow night since I need to scan at work.
Kuya, forget about IAT kit. I’ve made a better solution after consulting couple sources and my tuner agrees it’s the best. Also, the 160* thermostat has been removed and sold out to a Procharged C6 owner right there before we hit the dyno. More details soon.

[Kuya Master]

Those SSR rims fit? I went to Tire Rack, and put the 06 GTO as the car, and only two models of wheels showed up as proper fitment. The SSRs weren't one of them.

[v6pmemba]

With 94* heat pulled

362whp/352wtq SAE :vampire:

:banana2:

Current engine mods are only LPE (Lingenfelter) Intake, SLP UD pulley and MSD 8.5mm spark plug wires.

:eek2: Wow! Awesome numbers even with HOT temps. I can't imagine how the car feels. Congrats! :up:

[SteVTEC]

Now to the great news:
Today, had custom tuning done on Dynojet.
Guess what? With 94* heat pulled

362whp/352wtq SAE :vampire:

:banana2:

Current engine mods are only LPE (Lingenfelter) Intake, SLP UD pulley and MSD 8.5mm spark plug wires. Next are Kooks 1 7/8” coated headers, custom cam with upgraded springs, 3200 stall torque converter right after winter next year.

I’ll post a dyno chart tomorrow night since I need to scan at work.
Kuya, forget about IAT kit. I’ve made a better solution after consulting couple sources and my tuner agrees it’s the best. Also, the 160* thermostat has been removed and sold out to a Procharged C6 owner right there before we hit the dyno. More details soon.MWQHAHAHAHAHHA...
AND ITS AN AUTOMATIC!


:devil2: :devil2: :devil2:

[v6pmemba]

MWQHAHAHAHAHHA...
AND ITS AN AUTOMATIC!


:devil2: :devil2: :devil2:

Shoot, I forgot it's automatic despite looking at his signature.
Damn! The beast is actually now has 452HP :eek: with 20% drivetrain loss or 441 with 18% as I heard I think on LS1tech board. And the torque is :D.

[BlackV62K2]

To top it off, very little money was spent to get there. Trying to make the Accord go that fast would mean an insane amount of money spent. That's why I'm starting to like domestics a lot.

[Accord_V6_400m]

To top it off, very little money was spent to get there. Trying to make the Accord go that fast would mean an insane amount of money spent. That's why I'm starting to like domestics a lot.

Sell your car and buy a goat :)
You don't need a J32 ;) or if you like V8 power and four doors how about an older M5?

[BlackV62K2]

Sell your car and buy a goat :)
You don't need a J32 ;) or if you like V8 power and four doors how about an older M5?
No GTO's in Canada. It doesn't pass some Canadian safety regulation or some sh!t. We get screwed on a lot of cars you guys get because we have more strict vehicle regulations.

[02AV6]

Yeah, just $500 in engine power mods + $120 oil catch can :). Suspension gets expensive but it's a must over stock.

I just posting a DYNO plot for now since I limited on time. I'll post pics of engine bay sometime this week and specifically how I relocated and wrapped up both intake tube + IAT sensor.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/489802AV6_LS2GTO.gif

Here is what has been custom tuned:
Gears, Injectors, Cam, Rev Limiter, Exhaust, MAF, IAT table, and stock Thermostat now kicks-in at 175* :up2: vs. 195-200* stock which is very beneficial and there is no need to go with 160* aftermarket unit. Overall, the torque management is gone along with many improvements across the power band. Another cool feature is that if I take off hard from the light then with gear changes I can hear the intake whistle :burnout: (sort of quiet turbo BOV).

Yeah, the torque drops right after 5100rpm but it’s nothing to worry about it with just minor engine mods and hot running condition. The low-end torque is simply awesome on the street and drivability is incredible after tune along with MPG gain. That’s right, I gained close to a 1 gallon compare to stock setup which is now about 19-19.5mpg (50/50 driving).
And here is why:
1. Look at the bottom tuned AFR (straight red line is 13:1. the best NA power along with fuel efficiency is between 13.0-13.3:1)
2. The stock AFR was RICH flat 12 (not shown) at WOT and my tuner lean it out nice and safe with some areas still kind of rich but leaving the room for upcoming LT headers and cam.

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/489802AV6_LS2GTO_AFR.gif

And next time I’ll make sure to schedule dyno at much colder temps. The Speed, Inc is just a famous busy shop around here and I was anxious to lean it out and remove the torque management.

[02AV6]

Oh, yea for bragging rights :laugh: I could've asked to print out some plots with smoothing set to 0 or request actual STD conversion which reads 4-6% higher. Nah, I’ll stick to reality.

[SteVTEC]

I'm sorry but it has pushrods and only 2 valves per cylinder so it still sucks. j/k j/k lololol :)



























i'm jealous i want one :cry:

[cwic]

do u think there would be any benifit to getting ur torque converter rebuilt. seems like ur graph is a little wavy. not quite as bad as mine does, but i know mine is slipping.
Clay

[Kuya Master]

I know this is a repost, but what size/offset of those SSR rims will fit the GTO? I'll be wanting 17s, since the GTO comes with 17s. Tire Rack still isn't showing me anything but heavy generic brand rims when I enter the GTO as the car I'm trying to shop for.

[02AV6]

i'm jealous i want one :cry:

Get one while it still available in limited numbers :)

do u think there would be any benifit to getting ur torque converter rebuilt. seems like ur graph is a little wavy. not quite as bad as mine does, but i know mine is slipping.
Clay

Mine is fine, and I will be getting Vigilante lock-up TC with either 2800 or 3200 stall when upgrading the cam. They would work together and provide the benefits on the track when taking off while being streetable. BTW, the stocker is rated at 2200rpm and if you not planning to upgrade the cam, stick to factory unit.

I know this is a repost, but what size/offset of those SSR rims will fit the GTO? I'll be wanting 17s, since the GTO comes with 17s. Tire Rack still isn't showing me anything but heavy generic brand rims when I enter the GTO as the car I'm trying to shop for.

Guess I missed it. Select 335i bimmer with the same bolt pattern :D (5x120).
I haven't seen the offset yet, but I know they fit just fine.

[Legendaryyaj]

No GTO's in Canada. It doesn't pass some Canadian safety regulation or some sh!t. We get screwed on a lot of cars you guys get because we have more strict vehicle regulations.

I call BS on that. You Canadians get the nicer cars.

[cwic]

AV6, i dont have a gto, but glad i asked as u put some more info out for others.
Clay

[blackaccord]

I call BS on that. You Canadians get the nicer cars.

are you kidding me
tell me how us Canadians get nicer cars?
we dont even get the evo, skyline, + a lot more to list because of our strict rules
the only evo i seen in toronto was a guy from the states going to school here
the only skylines here are 15+ yr old ones (r32) because of the import rules
so what makes you think we get nicer cars
plus. our car cost way more.

[stupidaznmunkey]

hey 02av6, are your suspension components in regard to that "tire shredding" problem that GM is trying to keep hush hush about? http://www.gtoforum.com/showthread.php?t=13007

[02AV6]

hey 02av6, are your suspension components in regard to that "tire shredding" problem that GM is trying to keep hush hush about? http://www.gtoforum.com/showthread.php?t=13007


Sort of but not to that extent. I've never experienced a tire rubbing/shredding issue but my struts collapsed on the second week I picked it up and were replaced under warranty as soon as we receive the parts from Australia. GM service was great too and I was given 2008 Buick Enclave (SUV) as shown below. Yet I established the relationship with a service manager who said as long I’m not going for FI he’s going to honor the warranty :up2:

Here are the Enclave pics and the same color they rent me out :naughty:

http://www.buick.com/enclave/images/BuickEnclave1.jpg
http://www.buick.com/enclave/images/BuickEnclave8.jpg

http://images.motortrend.com/auto_shows/coverage/los_angeles/112_0611_2006_la_show_05z+2008_buick_enclave+inter ior.jpg

[stupidaznmunkey]

are you gonna get some SLP long tubes or what soon???? :naughty:

i've been frequenting on the GTO forums lately since im almost positive after college im gonna get one :hide2:

[02AV6]

are you gonna get some SLP long tubes or what soon???? :naughty:


Kooks with offroad pipes and disabled O2 (no cats). With that I expect to be between 400-410whp :naughty:

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898kooks.jpg

[eolife22]

Kooks with offroad pipes and disabled O2 (no cats). With that I expect to be between 400-410whp :naughty:

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898kooks.jpg



what do u use to remove the check engine light ? o2 simulators ?

[02AV6]

what do u use to remove the check engine light ? o2 simulators ?

To remove CEL you can use any OBDII reader/eraser. And complete custom tune on LS2 is done with DiabloSport PREDATOR flash programmer which can easily disable rear O2 when no cats used.
http://www.diablosport.com/images/holdpred.jpg

Details are here - http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=63

[TooHypper]

What part od Illinois to you hail from.

[02AV6]

North 'burbs of Chicago.

[The6thSpeeder]

GTO stands for Grand Turismo Omologato which is Italian and GTO is an American car. So the “Goat” is a nickname which came from enthusiasts who didn't want to say the 3 syllables of GTO.

The probable reason the sales have not been impressive was because they decided to call it a GTO. If GM/Pontiac brought this car here and called it something crazy like the Asteroid or the Gazelle, or even simply the Monaro as it is, none of the automotive press or the old GTO faithful would have had anything negative to say about it not being true to the old GTO's appearance. After that, there's really nothing negative anyone has said about the car. But calling it a GTO and pricing it in the low 30's set it up for comparison against the whole retro craze Mustang and Charger/Challengers when its really a non-retro, modern, high-performance, semi-luxury oriented 2+2. Additionally, the fact that it’s an import is not well known.

And here is why I own one:
a. Best value out there
b. Limited production vehicle
c. Corvette LS2 engine with needed back seat and comfy interior
d. Typically change cars every 5 years, so AV6 needs to go and I had fun with it.

Find me a factory vehicle with 400hp/400tq for $24,300 + tax. Yes, that’s what I paid. The GTO is a hit in my book and I appreciate its exclusivity. Who wants to be like everybody else and see one on every corner? I notice maybe 3-4 GTO per week, not thousands of every model/make out there. Bottom line, this is a unique adult sports car I’m happy to own that chirping in 3rd gear and putting bus lengths on 99% cars on the street.

Right on.....
I have a GTO as well, an 06 and it's the biggest bargain out there, and maybe evar?

Most people think it's a Pontiac! That is cool with me.
MOst don't know it's an import, with perhaps better build quality than the Honda.

Have you heard of Ls1gto.com?
I mean they would understand getting a 30,000 touring coupe for under 30,000 OTD! I think I want the mods you have, but I thought you'd be closer to 400+ at the wheels? I mean I have Headers, intake, and exhaust but not a tune yet which sux. My 04 AV6 will be up for sale soon.

[02AV6]

Right on.....
I have a GTO as well, an 06 and it's the biggest bargain out there, and maybe evar?

Most people think it's a Pontiac! That is cool with me.
MOst don't know it's an import, with perhaps better build quality than the Honda.

Have you heard of Ls1gto.com?
I mean they would understand getting a 30,000 touring coupe for under 30,000 OTD! I think I want the mods you have, but I thought you'd be closer to 400+ at the wheels? I mean I have Headers, intake, and exhaust but not a tune yet which sux. My 04 AV6 will be up for sale soon.

I lurk once in a while on that board and now getting some ideas on L92 heads/L76 intake manifold combo which is 6.2L :cool:

Well, as you've seen I pulled 362whp with only intake and ud pulley and if you going to count plug wires. Not bad at all, huh? 400whp as stated I should get with catless Kooks headers, so expect pretty much the same with a good tune on yours. Each dyno varies of course but it also depends if you go with hi-flow cats or not.

Oh yeah, congrats! :up2:

[stupidaznmunkey]

Kooks with offroad pipes and disabled O2 (no cats). With that I expect to be between 400-410whp :naughty:

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898kooks.jpg
btw, are you getting the 1 3/4 or the 1 7/8 :hide2:
*EDIT* nevermind i just read your sig lol


and u shud just do a LS7 conversion :D

[Kuya Master]

Any update on the wheels? Did you get the SSRs on, and do they fit with the stock size tires (or wider)?

Also, how's the torque converter lock-up on that thing? Does it lock up only in 3rd and 4th, or does it do it in 1st and 2nd as well?

[02AV6]

Any update on the wheels? Did you get the SSRs on, and do they fit with the stock size tires (or wider)?

Also, how's the torque converter lock-up on that thing? Does it lock up only in 3rd and 4th, or does it do it in 1st and 2nd as well?

Not yet and probably next spring. Those SSR wheels do fit just fine on GTO along with stock tires (245/45/17).

17x8 front/17x8.5 rear and can fit 275mm shoes.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/GTO1/IMG_0181.jpg

As far TC lock up, here is a good thread - http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7502225

[02AV6]

and u shud just do a LS7 conversion :D

Nah, I might do SLP L92 headers/L76 IM with cam package and have close to 500whp :naughty: which is much bettter and inexpensive :yes:

[Kuya Master]

Sweet... I guess I'll be copying you when it comes to that as well. There really aren't any other alternatives as far as super light rims that fit the car. I'm pretty dead set on getting one now, but my f*ck*ng mom took my insurance money to fix up the other house she owns so she can move into it from the place she's renting now and be comfortable. But yeah... I think mine will be a six speed if the local dealership can get one.

[02AV6]

Here are some pics of repositioned IAT sensor before dyno tuning (above chart).
As mentioned IAT sensor literally sits on radiator hose from the factory on '05-06 GTO and causing heat soak issue. Now my IAT not only moved away from the hose, everything next to it has been wrapped up with bike exhaust bandage which withstands up to 2000 degrees. The result - better drivability and no loss in power due to 15-20 degrees in temperature reduction vs. stock configuration.

Right from the factory. IAT sits on radiator hose (not shown) below intake tube.
http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_44.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898IMG_5126.JPG

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898IMG_5133.jpg

And getting installed catless Kooks LT headers this Saturday :D.

[BOOYAAH]

Sweet... I guess I'll be copying you when it comes to that as well. There really aren't any other alternatives as far as super light rims that fit the car. I'm pretty dead set on getting one now, but my f*ck*ng mom took my insurance money to fix up the other house she owns so she can move into it from the place she's renting now and be comfortable. But yeah... I think mine will be a six speed if the local dealership can get one.

seriously dude you need an anger management when it comes to females :rolleye2:

02AV6 have you run in a 1/4 yet?

[Kuya Master]

Hey... why does the engine bay make it look like the hoodscoops aren't functional? *Plays ominous music.*

I test drove a GTO today, I like it. The exhaust is a bit louder than the Accord's in cruising, but I figure I'll slap on something to make it quieter, and have dual remote cut-outs when I want to go fast. I'm trying to get approved (actually my mom is, since Medi-Cal won't let me own anything over $2,000 in value) for GTO as we speak, and waiting on bank replies.

Serge/02AV6, could you also link me up to where you got your super lightweight battery and the holder for it and all that jazz, please?

[cwic]

i was thinking about wrapping my headers when i get them, do u think it is worth it?

[Kuya Master]

Are you packing a GTO as well? If you're talking about the 6th Generation AV6, I would say yes. I had a dinky 1.5" drop, and the bottom of my Jet Hot Coated Comptech Headers still managed to get a scrape on the downpipe. At least with header wrap, it'd have to scrape through the layers of wrap before f*ck*ng up the downpipe.

[Kuya Master]

I just noticed in your pictures that you have license plates on your car. Did you buy it used? Here in California, it takes weeks to get new plates.

[slowaccord]

kuya master why would u want to do the exact same thing as 02AV6? I understand you want to take a proven path but why not try and be original? theres plently of awesome platforms if you did some research you would find basically all LS1 motor cars have potential. Just some food for though

[Kuya Master]

Price, and after test driving it, it's a sick car. I'm not going to do the exact same thing, because I plan on staying street legal and environmentally friendly.

[stupidaznmunkey]

I lurk once in a while on that board and now getting some ideas on L92 heads/L76 intake manifold combo which is 6.2L :cool:

if youre not getting most of your info from ls1gto then where are you getting all this info on how to make your GTO better?!

[Kuya Master]

I have one now too, it's red. No more black ones in my area.

[02AV6]

02AV6 have you run in a 1/4 yet?

Nope, will try when temps come down to 65.

Hey... why does the engine bay make it look like the hoodscoops aren't functional? *Plays ominous music.*

They are not, just dissipate heat better. There are howevever some carbon fiber ones that do direct air into air box along with weight reduction.


I test drove a GTO today, I like it. The exhaust is a bit louder than the Accord's in cruising, but I figure I'll slap on something to make it quieter, and have dual remote cut-outs when I want to go fast.
Too quiet for me. With headers and stock exhaust they sound much better.

could you also link me up to where you got your super lightweight battery and the holder for it and all that jazz, please?
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc680mjt.htm

i was thinking about wrapping my headers when i get them, do u think it is worth it?
Nope, no wrapping on NA vehicles.

I just noticed in your pictures that you have license plates on your car. Did you buy it used? Here in California, it takes weeks to get new plates.
I purchased certified demo one. If you look on the first or second page I had paper plates when I picked it up and received plates within 3 weeks.

if youre not getting most of your info from ls1gto then where are you getting all this info on how to make your GTO better?!

As mentioned, I have a very good mechanic who owns 11 sec GTO who share some good info and installed my UD pulley/suspension.
Besides ls2gto there are ls1tech and tons of other sources. BTW, I registered on ls2gto board just to get good deals on parts from some vendors.

[02AV6]

Catless Kooks headers installed last weekend :naughty:

Stock TA heads (similar) before mine were removed vs. Kooks
http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/Kooks_vs_stock.jpg

And stock cats and stock header after removal. Guess what? Another 25lbs weight reduction :yes:
http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/stock_cats_headers.jpg

[02AV6]

And installed tints and painted side markers

BEFORE
http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898myGTO_222.jpg

AFTER
http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/myGTO_new1.jpg

http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/myGTO_new2.jpg

[Kuya Master]

That's funny, mine is too loud for me in stock form (not really, but I'dve preferred the total silence of my first baby's exhaust when the cut-out was closed). I'm also hoping that when I get the SSR rims and General tires, it'll be a smoother ride too since the reduction in unsprung weight will make things easier on the springs and shocks. Thanks for the link to the battery and stuff. I haven't had a chance to floor it yet, since I'm still within break-in period, but just an inch or two of throttle gets me up to freeway speeds way fast, and I can feel it pull. I can't wait until I can "punch it".

I am going to need to get a paint job in the future though. I really want mine to be black, and a red engine bay still looks cool. Anyway, how'd you deal with the "dot matrix" on the top of the back window with your tint job? Did they pack a "vinyl strip"?

[v6pmemba]

I love the change Serge :up2: and bet with headers you should dyno 400whp :shock2::naughty:.
Damn with that much torque you should beat new M5 :cool:

[Accord_V6_400m]

Got to see an A/T LS2 GTO driving around aggressively last night, and man do those things have torque :naughty: Wanted to race the guy but he seemed to be doing his own thing. We talked at a light and I brought up the IAT heat soak problem which he was not aware of, but he was aware of the strut s carving into the tires problem.

[Av6Ent]

MOD EDIT TO REMOVE QUOTING OF IMAGES

Simply awesome and add those SSR rims :up: Yes I estimate now 400whp and 390wtq :D.

[Av6Ent]

Also :D, with L92/L76 combo and mild cam you should be over 460whp/440wtq :eek2::shock2::devil2:

[Kuya Master]

Okay, here are pictures of my new babies. I figured I'd just post in this thread, since there really isn't a need for me to make a new topic also labeled "My New GTO".

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/gtofront.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/gtorear.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/gtoside.jpg

My girlfriend is a little jealous and worried that I'm going to be spending more time with the car than her. She knows how much time and money I spent with/on my first true love (the AV6, of course). She ended up taking pictures of herself and her car as well in competition, since she's a photography hobbyist. Of course, she's much more photogenic than I am, being that women just plain look better than men by default, and her camera kicks my camera's ass (it cost ten times as much, and has those interchangeable lens things.).

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/sanacar.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/sanacar2.jpg

I wanted my car to be black too, but they didn't have anymore black ones, and they gave me a really good deal on the red one.

And now back to your regularly scheduled Serge program.

[angelo_xlr8]

Sly ride mate

wait till you see what the monaro's look like when they are dumped on their a$$

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/SMOKN_LJ/Monaro%20HSV%20show/104_2486.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c129/SMOKN_LJ/Monaro%20HSV%20show/104_2487.jpg

[02AV6]

Damn with that much torque you should beat new M5 :cool:

I ran into silver E60 M5 this week and did a quick roll 45-90mph and ended up beating 1 car length. They trap similar to E55 AMG which is 114mph and run 12.4-12.6 which is also similar to C6 stock Corvette. With my current mods, I've seen guys run low 12s on GTO so that should be the case.

Speaking of numbers, I found a legit E60 M5 baseline and couple bolt-ons dyno.

http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/e60m5dyno_BASE.jpg


Simply awesome and add those SSR rims :up: Yes I estimate now 400whp and 390wtq :D. Also :D, with L92/L76 combo and mild cam you should be over 460whp/440wtq :eek2::shock2::devil2:

SSR are going late spring next year ;). That's is what I estimate as well and either going to add a cam kit or the L92/L76 next :cool:. I've seen LS2 guys getting as low as 440whp and as high as 500whp with a combo :devil2:. However, that also means that entire drivetrain needs to be upgraded - torque converter, driveshaft + possible exhaust to fit, axles, and differential. Or with the cam kit I might just ended up getting a solid driveshaft and 2800 stall torque converter, so food for thought.

[02AV6]

Congrats, Kuya! :up2:. I'm surprised your girlfriend drives middle-age car :D at least that is the age bracket I see around here, but good solid car nevertheless.

Your first mods should be the following:

1. K&N complete intake (CARB exempt) ;).
http://marylandspeed.com/product_info.php?cPath=58_59&products_id=536
2. Oil catch can since LS2 motor burns oil and you don't want to enter you IM
http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Catch_Can.html

3. Pedders Street I bushings kit (see link on previous pages) is a must, and I'm happy with my complete bushings kit along with Noltec engine mounts. Firm but perfect handling. Hotchkis sway bars are nice to have as well.
4. Basic tune

Additional mods are all optional but the above will make your car a completely different animal ;)

[02AV6]

Sly ride mate

wait till you see what the monaro's look like when they are dumped on their a$$


:laugh: not a fan of dumped vehicles, but definitely fun.
BTW, I will be getting some Monaro exterior parts from Australia next season.

[Kuya Master]

Congrats, Kuya! :up2:. I'm surprised your girlfriend drives middle-age car :D at least that is the age bracket I see around here, but good solid car nevertheless.

Your first mods should be the following:

1. K&N complete intake (CARB exempt) ;).
http://marylandspeed.com/product_info.php?cPath=58_59&products_id=536
2. Oil catch can since LS2 motor burns oil and you don't want to enter you IM
http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Catch_Can.html

3. Pedders Street I bushings kit (see link on previous pages) is a must, and I'm happy with my complete bushings kit along with Noltec engine mounts. Firm but perfect handling. Hotchkis sway bars are nice to have as well.
4. Basic tune

Additional mods are all optional but the above will make your car a completely different animal ;)
Thanks. Didn't know the K&N kit was CARB legal. Another site I saw it on said that it wasn't. Anyway, I'll be getting that and the JBA headers along with the remote exhaust cut-outs. Didn't know about the oil catch can, I will definitely get that so she stays healthy. Not sure about the bushings and engine mounts though, since the ride is kinda on the harsh side (harsher than how my AV6 was even after the mods I did) as it is, and I really don't want any engine vibration into the cabin at all.

If the GM brochure you posted isn't full of sh*t, and the car does in fact run 13.0 stock, then I should be in the 12s all day with basic mods. Could you link me up to the thermostat modification/replacement that has it turn on at 160 or so? I went through the thread again, and can't find it. I want to keep the car as cool as possible, but I don't want to copy your IAT modification (it's a little on the ugly side, and with this car I want to keep it looking pretty).

And yes, the Avalon is so an old man's car, but she's into luxury junk. She'd have a Lexus if she could afford it. *Rolls eyes.* F*ck*ng princess.

[eolife22]

dont forget oil pressure gauge

[cwic]

Are you packing a GTO as well? If you're talking about the 6th Generation AV6, I would say yes. I had a dinky 1.5" drop, and the bottom of my Jet Hot Coated Comptech Headers still managed to get a scrape on the downpipe. At least with header wrap, it'd have to scrape through the layers of wrap before f*ck*ng up the downpipe.

i wish, cant justify it with my line of work and needing funds to re-model the house.
clay

[02AV6]

Thanks. Didn't know the K&N kit was CARB legal. Another site I saw it on said that it wasn't. Anyway, I'll be getting that and the JBA headers along with the remote exhaust cut-outs. Didn't know about the oil catch can, I will definitely get that so she stays healthy. Not sure about the bushings and engine mounts though, since the ride is kinda on the harsh side (harsher than how my AV6 was even after the mods I did) as it is, and I really don't want any engine vibration into the cabin at all.

If the GM brochure you posted isn't full of sh*t, and the car does in fact run 13.0 stock, then I should be in the 12s all day with basic mods. Could you link me up to the thermostat modification/replacement that has it turn on at 160 or so? I went through the thread again, and can't find it. I want to keep the car as cool as possible, but I don't want to copy your IAT modification (it's a little on the ugly side, and with this car I want to keep it looking pretty).

And yes, the Avalon is so an old man's car, but she's into luxury junk. She'd have a Lexus if she could afford it. *Rolls eyes.* F*ck*ng princess.

1/4 results depends on temps, elevation and track experience. Getting DR and fry them will make a difference as well with about 14-16psi tire pressure and 38 up front. Basic tune will take care of fans kicking in at lower temps (~ 180* vs. 200 stock) so 160 t-stat is not really needed. Lol, I like function over form, thus my intake wrap really works, yet it's black in color ;). With K&N you pretty much resolve IAT heat soak but wrap is still recommended. Finally, I can tell you I have zero cabin vibration with suspension mods and handling now is spectacular.

[Kuya Master]

Is there a Chilton or Haynes manual for the GTO? I went to the local Barnes and Noble, and they couldn't find anything for the modern generation. I don't want to go to Shad's shop and not have any sort of instruction for him to do the installs.

[02AV6]

Is there a Chilton or Haynes manual for the GTO? I went to the local Barnes and Noble, and they couldn't find anything for the modern generation. I don't want to go to Shad's shop and not have any sort of instruction for him to do the installs.

Here ya go - http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2952020&postcount=8

BTW, intake you can install yourself along with oil catch can. Typically all parts come with instructions.

[stupidaznmunkey]

dammit kuya! you beat me to it!!! i want a GTO so bad! effing college need to get on with a full-time job! haha :)

but get your suspension upgraded!!! watch out for the tire shredding problem

02AV6 get some vids up! i bet it sounds sweet :D

[Kuya Master]

Not yet and probably next spring. Those SSR wheels do fit just fine on GTO along with stock tires (245/45/17).

17x8 front/17x8.5 rear and can fit 275mm shoes.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/GTO1/IMG_0181.jpg[/url]
Looking stuff up online, it seems that the thin-ness of the stock tires makes for bad times due to lots of wheelspin, so I'm looking at getting 275s as well. However, when I looked up the SSRs under the BMW 335i like you suggested earlier, there were no 17x8.5s available. Can they be found under a different car?

Okay, I found them under the 02 BMWs. Thing is, I'm looking at my GTO, and getting anything wider than the stock rim/tire width will push the tires out way into fender range for rubbing. Did that guy have to get his fenders rolled? Could you link me to his page so I can check out what he did, and/or how he got the wheels and tires onto his car?

[Kuya Master]

Double post, for the win.

Ugh... we also need hub rings in addition to rolling the fenders. And all I can find for sale are ugly blue anodized "TSW fit" hub rings. I think I'm going to wait for you to get them, so you can link me to where you got your hub rings, and tell me how you dealt with the fender clearance/rubbing issues.

[02AV6]

I believe 17x8.5" were available on tirerack. Check his thread - http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159019&highlight=SSR

Yep, you need roll the fenders to fit 275 rear shoes.

[02AV6]

Found it. If you opt for '06 325ci both SSR Type C RS 17x8 and 17x8.5" are available

Click on image and scroll down.
http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/ssr/search/SSR.Type_C-RS_Anth_100.jpg (http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/results.jsp?&autoMake=BMW&autoModel=325Ci+Coupe&autoYear=2006&autoModClar=Base+Model&filterSize=17&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand)

[02AV6]

Also,I like this ASA (BBS knock off) which comes in 17x8 and 17x9. Not as light as SSR but lighter and better looking than stockers. And the best part the price -

SSR - 16.5/17lbs ($399/$404)
ASA - 21/22 ($139/$148)
Stock - 26 (free)

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/asa/swap/asa_ar1_blk_ci3_l.jpg

[Kuya Master]

Serge... you're the best. I'm so going to blow two grand or so on stupid wheels and fender cutting!

[taospec]

Also,I like this ASA (BBS knock off) which comes in 17x8 and 17x9. Not as light as SSR but lighter and better looking than stockers. And the best part the price -

SSR - 16.5/17lbs ($399/$404)
ASA - 21/22 ($139/$148)
Stock - 26 (free)

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/asa/swap/asa_ar1_blk_ci3_l.jpg

Yeah, that wheel is pretty sweet!:up2:

[v6pmemba]

I like the above rims too. Still weight reduction :D over stock and look great.
So are you going with head/manifold combo or just the cam kit?

[02AV6]

So are you going with head/manifold combo or just the cam kit?

I'm going with complete (w/cam) L92 cyl. heads/L76 manifold :devil2: this winter when the car is sort of stored (don't want to put many miles on it). Then final tuning will follow along with custom torque converter and be done with it. This should give me about 480 whp with ported TB. Not bad for NA vehicle, huh :D?

Stock LS2 cam has the following specs:
204 - Intake duration
211 - Exhaust duration
.520 - Intake Lift
.525 - Exhaust Lift
116 - LSA (lobe separation angle)

The cam I think to go with is:
224/228 .600/.600 114

[v6pmemba]

I'm going with complete (w/cam) L92 cyl. heads/L76 manifold :devil2: this winter when the car is sort of stored (don't want to put many miles on it). Then final tuning will follow along with custom torque converter and be done with it. This should give me about 480 whp with ported TB. Not bad for NA vehicle, huh :D?

Stock LS2 cam has the following specs:
204 - Intake duration
211 - Exhaust duration
.520 - Intake Lift
.525 - Exhaust Lift
116 - LSA (lobe separation angle)

The cam I think to go with is:
224/228 .600/.600 114

Man that would be sick :up:. That's more power than LS7 Z06 :eek:

[Accord_V6_400m]

Man that would be sick :up:. That's more power than LS7 Z06 :eek:

It is, but its also ~450lbs heavier and has less torque, at least or I would presume it to be so since it has 1000c less in displacement and both are NA.

Serge how much do those ZO6's put down anyway? Are they underated or pretty much dead on?

So Serge no custom VVT pushrod camshaft like on the new Vipers :D albeit on the exhaust side only.

[slowaccord]

It is, but its also ~450lbs heavier and has less torque, at least or I would presume it to be so since it has 1000c less in displacement and both are NA.

Serge how much do those ZO6's put down anyway? Are they underated or pretty much dead on?

So Serge no custom VVT pushrod camshaft like on the new Vipers :D albeit on the exhaust side only.


the c6 z06 is seriously underrated. It puts out way more power than the advertised 505. :D

[02AV6]

It is, but its also ~450lbs heavier and has less torque, at least or I would presume it to be so since it has 1000c less in displacement and both are NA.

My goal is to bring the weight down to 3400lbs (full interior) from 3725lbs by the time I finish with upgraded heads/manifold/torque converter. So we’re talking about just 268lbs difference and considering my upcoming more power (* 480whp) and more torque (* 425wtq) I should run similar times to still lighter but better geared C6 Z06 which also varies from the fastest (stock) as 11.2 to 11.8 as slowest trapping @ 122-127mph. I see GTO guys running 11.4-11.5 with those numbers and good track condition. My goal is not to beat the Z06 but to make my car “fun street car” with maybe once a season visit to a track just to see the ¼ mile results. However, if I can match the performance of stock Z06 I’ll be happy.

* estimated


Serge how much do those ZO6's put down anyway? Are they underated or pretty much dead on?
the c6 z06 is seriously underrated. It puts out way more power than the advertised 505. :D

Nope, pretty much dead on. C6 Z06 typically dyno 441-443whp which is 519-521hp vs. 505 advertised, so not really underrated. I’ve seen some plots over 450whp but they’re not considered accurate. Below are stock Z06 baseline runs performed at reputable place.
http://lgmotorsports.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Runs1%20and%202%20stock%202006%20Z06.jpg


So Serge no custom VVT pushrod camshaft like on the new Vipers :D albeit on the exhaust side only.

The above cam along with mentioned 6.2L massaged cyl. heads & manifold + tuning combo will get me 80whp :naughty:

[v6pmemba]

Yea, lgmotorsports are legit and provide good products to muscle community and looks like one of the few who dyno the Z06 first. Still can't imagine what 480whp and over 420 torque at wheel would feel on GTO :up:. Good luck!

[Av6Ent]

Wow! The "beast" is in the right hands :up:. Thanks for your and LS7 Z06 dynos. With that power, man it would be scary pull up next to you at the light :D

[02AV6]

Yep, that power coming next year since I've accomplished my goal for this year to be near or at 400whp. I'll make some videos soon and post it here.

[Accord_V6_400m]

Damn looking foward to this :D

[v6pmemba]

Yes, please post videos. Idle and highway or street acceleration :naughty:.

[v6pmemba]

http://216.55.144.47/other/img/02av6/other_cars/e60m5dyno_BASE.jpg


Interesting, E60 M5 has low torque, heavy but good power up top and great gearing. Hmmm, and it still runs mid 12s easy :confuse2:. But, you spanked one and I'd like to see his face when you zoomed by him :up:

[Kuya Master]

Weight reduction = 90lbs :naughty:. From 3725lbs (from the factory) to 3635

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/4898GTO_weight_reduction.jpg
Hey bro, what are the 15 and 13 lb things on the right? I've taken out my spare as well, but I'd like to lose that other stuff too. What and where are they?

[02AV6]

Hey bro, what are the 15 and 13 lb things on the right? I've taken out my spare as well, but I'd like to lose that other stuff too. What and where are they?

Just extra junk ;)

The 15lbs one is a skid plate protecting your oil pan as it sits lower then the frame level. Unless you go off-road and going through rough surface with debris you can remove it. I actually removed completely since I usually drive on good road condition, then decided to get the aluminum 4-5lbs unit made by BMR. BTW, every time you change oil you need to remove it since it covers your oil filter, however it only 3 min job.

http://www.ls1speed.com/catalogimages/SG001.jpg

There is another one made by SLP that looks like fork and doesn't need to be removed.

http://www.ls1speed.com/catalogimages/SLP73010.jpg

speedinc.com | marylandspeed.com sell them.

The second unit is tow hitch plate located underneath the plastic cover below the rear bumper. Unless you plan to tow something it does absolutely nothing but adding an extra weight.

And there is another 29lbs :eek: "barbell" I have recently removed - the fuel tank tower brace. It designed to protect you tank in case of rear collision, however GTO will be considered a total loss anyway with serious impact regardless of the brace or not. Open your trunk, pull the lining and remove the 4 bolts and pull the damn thing. Be ready to surprise it's a heavy piece that looks like this.

http://chitv06.win.aplus.net/other/img/02av6/other_cars/fuel_tank_brace.jpg

[v6_ccord_2k5]

M5 killa! :up2: I tried convincing my dad to get one of these instead of the F-350 6.8 Turbo Diesel King Ranch we got 2 weekends ago... but this truck isnt that bad either :eek:

keep up the good work, I always wanted a GTO ever since they came out.

[Kuya Master]

Does that gas tank tower brace do anything to help with handling? I mean it looks like it connects to stuff that might help.

[VTEC-v6!]

Looks like it keeps you from blowing up in a rear end accident, I'd keep it for a measly 30lbs :p

[02AV6]

The gas tank will be fine. You would have to get hit in the rear pretty damn hard for the trunk to crush that far in, and the odds are slim.

At that point I think the gas tank getting dented is the last of your worries. I see the side impact is more lethal and more unprotected. However, it is up to owner to decide if it is worth it to have it in or out. And 50% do remove it at the track based on LSX board review.

[Kuya Master]

Okay, I'll most likely take it off, but not sure if you missed my question about if it does any form of bracing to the frame and stuff for handling improvement?

[02AV6]

Okay, I'll most likely take it off, but not sure if you missed my question about if it does any form of bracing to the frame and stuff for handling improvement?

Nope. You can try and see if you feel any handling difference. I certainly don't except weight reduction. When I'll increase power close to 500whp I might put it back on since the weight will transfer more to the rear which is good for traction on high HP cars. However many reported NO difference at all and some feel it does.

Get Pedders Street I bushing kit (OEM ride quality) it will handle much better.

[Kuya Master]

Is that the kit you have? I remember that you said that what you put on yours firmed up the ride a bit. Or is the one you have a "higher stage" kit? I can't afford to have my ride firmed up any more than it is over the little highway/road bumps and whatnot, for risk of being forced to drive the Avalon whenever the lady and I go out. And to be honest, I f*ck*ng HATE driving the Avalon.

[02AV6]

I have a complete set of bushings front/rear.
"Pedders Street I" and the rest from "Energy Suspension" along with "Noltec" engine mounts. To retain OEM quality, "Street I" kit is the way to go. BTW, I'm happy with my setup which is now much better ride vs. Tein SS I used to have on AV6 ;). And I'm only going to add a set of sways by "Hotchkis" over OEM.

[Accord_V6_400m]

Thats a good oil comparison article that you have there in your sig there Sege ;)

Im suprised the Enzo's oil did so bad, and they wont warranty your motor if you dont use it :rolleye2:
Royal Purple FTW! :D

[02AV6]

Yep, the engine oil article is good and legit.
With everything said and done my oil choices now are the following:
Engine - Royal Purple 5w30 or 10w30;
Transmission - Redline ATF;
Differential/LSD - Torco.

[Kuya Master]

I have some questions, as I'm just about ready to finally do some mods.

Have you already installed your transmission cooler? What brand/model are you using? Is it possible to bypass the stock cooler format where it uses part of the radiator so that the hot radiator doesn't heat-soak the cooled fluid? When I had my AV6, Comptech did it so that the transmission fluid no longer went into the part of the radiator where it did in stock form.

Do our cars have a tire pressure monitoring thing? I'm wondering because if we don't have one, then I can just have Tire Rack install the tires I'm getting on the SSRs for free before they ship them to me, rather than have to have the local tire shop do it for more since if we don't have those funky monitoring sensors on our wheels, they can just be switched out.

[Lxcord]

i still think amsoil is the best oil.

group V according to bobtheoilguy forums

[Kuya Master]

Yeah, and according (pun pun) to them, RP "shears". Thing is, if you don't run your car in high performance situations as often as some of those guys do, then it should be fine. I too am a fan of Amsoil, which that test decided to leave out.

[Kuya Master]

So being that I couldn't make the NorCal meet at Treasure Island, I was chillin' at the local 7 Flags for a two hours (I had them do the whole $150 shebang since she got a bunch of tree sap on her from where I had to work this week) I had like seven other guys compliment me on Jenny, and mention that they've never seen a car like her before. But even better was that overhearing me talking to the dudes, three women also commented that she was "pretty" and "a sexy car to match a sexy man". I went so gay and blushed as red as Jenny's "Torrid Red" paint color at the last one for a few moments before I rebooted my manliness program.

I have Serge to thank for this, as if it wasn't for him... "Jenny" would probably be a dime-a-dozen on the road IS (blech).

[Lxcord]

I went so gay and blushed


did you say " oh stop it" ? with your hand ? :gay::

[Accord_V6_400m]

did you say " oh stop it" ? with your hand ? :gay::

You know he did, but then again it was a rhetorical question :laugh:

[Kuya Master]

Well, I do let the inner girl out to trick girls into thinking I'm a sensitive and caring guy under the somewhat manly exterior.... Oh, wait... it's actually I put on the manly exterior to trick girls into thinking I'm a manly guy at all.

[v6_ccord_2k5]

updates on this beast?

[02AV6]

updates on this beast?

Currently in hibernation stage. However, the most important is done - driveshaft/differential and complete aftermarket suspension (springs/struts/shocks/sways/bushings/mounts) so I can put the future serious NA power to the ground.

[02AV6]

Have you already installed your transmission cooler? What brand/model are you using? Is it possible to bypass the stock cooler format where it uses part of the radiator so that the hot radiator doesn't heat-soak the cooled fluid? When I had my AV6, Comptech did it so that the transmission fluid no longer went into the part of the radiator where it did in stock form.



That's the kit - excellent cooling.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_10002_347036_-1



P.S. Haven't been here (just too busy with business and twins) for a while and have tons of PM. Will answer them this weekend when I finally can have some time this year.

[v6_ccord_2k5]

sweet

[njballa]

Sweet Whip I need one

[Kuya Master]

SLP Oil Pan Protector/Skid-Plate Replacement. Definately feels light, but I never change my own oil, so I don't know how much lighter it feels compared to the stock one.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/Jennifer/SLPSkidplateReplacement.jpg

Billet Prototypes Oil Catch Can. The catch-can looks neat, sucks that it's going to end up getting all dirty.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/Jennifer/BilletPrototypesOilCatchCan.jpg

SCSS GaTOr Pod and Gauges. Looks like quality fitment and material. The black plastic matches my stock cover's plastic. However, the gray in the gauges is a couple shades darker than the main gauge cluster's gray. A little miffed, since I paid $800 for it all, but it's as close as I'm going to get to making it look like it's supposed to be there from the factory.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/Millefune/cars/Jennifer/SCSSGaTOrPodwithGauges.jpg

[Lxcord]

kuya your gto needs to sound like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAxVlBWFmew&feature=related

[Kuya Master]

Cam? No thanks.

[2006Accord6spd]

nice, I've always loved the goats

[SixSpeeder]

Why no cam? You can get a very mild cam without sacraficing drivability.

[Kuya Master]

I'll fail the sniffer test.

[SixSpeeder]

Haha, not following.

[Kuya Master]

I live in stupid California, like you. Even with a tune, guys with a cam are putting out a lot more emissions at lower RPM than stock. But, still less than older 1980s cars that get away with it.

[SixSpeeder]

Ah, I see. And that's not something you can easily remove before smogging.

There is a guy the live close to me that has a SS Camaro with a light cam. The sounds are wonderous. He looks like the type of guy, though, that could rip apart a LS1 and put it back together in an afternoon and enjoy it.

[02AV6]

kuya your gto needs to sound like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAxVlBWFmew&feature=related

Typical example of BAD TUNE and SILLY CAM which "active" above 4000rpm.

Here is how a mild cam and good tune should sound with great powerband between 1800-6300 rpm :up2:.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G9LiOxckwAY

Kuya, if you add a baby cam not only it will shine over the stocker but it won't jeopardize your emission with good tune.

[Lxcord]

that cam may seem silly, but i love that cam lope, that's how a muscle car should sound.

I agree on the tuning part though, whenever choosing an aggressive cam one needs the best tuning available.

[02AV6]

Well, if the sound is all it matters along with an idea to build a drag racing only vehicle then yes. However, personally I prefer the "sleeper" sound with a slight lope and MORE daily driven PERFORMANCE ;)

[Lxcord]

sorry i did not mean to argue with the owner of the baddest, most evil accord out there :D:cool:

[02AV6]

Nah, we're not arguing. You are correct on the sound and I'm more on performance. Don't get me wrong the mild cam is noticeable and shaking typically occurs on stock engine mounts since they not up to the task. However, as mentioned the bigger the cam/lope doesn't necessary means more power and many confuse power with noise :D.

[02AV6]

Rims... + Drag Radials :naughty:

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/02av6_ls2gto_rim.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/02av6_ls2gto.jpg

[Lxcord]

wow so sexy !

I knew the GTO always looks good with rims that have a nice deep-dish lip on them.

excellent choice, btw what is the weight and are they 17" ?:)

[Kuya Master]

I bought mine first! :p Just I have no idea how you got your fronts before I did. I placed my order ages ago... and Tire Rack still hasn't gotten the 17x8s for the fronts yet. Did the center hub rings from 1010tires work out correctly? Mine will be chromed.

[02AV6]

wow so sexy !

I knew the GTO always looks good with rims that have a nice deep-dish lip on them.

excellent choice, btw what is the weight and are they 17" ?:)

Yep, 17 inch and I like that anthracite accent :up: vs. all silver. They are lighter then stockers and I chose tires accordingly to save even more.
17x8 front are 21.6lbs + 23lbs tire = 44.6lbs
17x9 rear are 22lbs + 27lbs Drag Radials = 49lbs

Stock (17x8) are 26lbs + 26lbs tire = 52lbs

7.4lbs front and the 3lbs rear weight reduction on the each corner. But removing weight thus rotational inertia is most important especially heavy front.


I bought mine first! :p Just I have no idea how you got your fronts before I did. I placed my order ages ago... and Tire Rack still hasn't gotten the 17x8s for the fronts yet. Did the center hub rings from 1010tires work out correctly? Mine will be chromed.

Here comes the word of “deficit” :D and I guess 3-series BMW wheels are popular. AR1 comes in 4 flavors, and anthracite were available late January but only 2 (front) and 4 (rear) when I checked online. I called them immediately and asked my delivery guys to pick them up on the way from Indianapolis.

Yes, thanks for the tip. Hub rings fit perfect :up2:

[slowaccord]

my brother just picked up a c6 corvette with the z51 package.

Im gonna keep my eye on the mods you guys are doing. :)

[Kuya Master]

Serge, how's the road noise on those drag radials?

I'm going with 275s in the rear and 245s in the front, but all my tires are going to be General Exclaim UHPs, because all the reviews and surveys say that they're even more quiet than the stock BF Goodrich tires on top of giving better performance.

[jimmy86]

02av6: your goat resembles the old av6 coupe! how fast are you running in the 1/4m? low 11s?

[02AV6]

my brother just picked up a c6 corvette with the z51 package.

Im gonna keep my eye on the mods you guys are doing. :)

Good choice :up2:. I needed back seat.


Serge, how's the road noise on those drag radials?

I'm going with 275s in the rear and 245s in the front, but all my tires are going to be General Exclaim UHPs, because all the reviews and surveys say that they're even more quiet than the stock BF Goodrich tires on top of giving better performance.

Nitto DR are not noisy and feel like any good street tire except they have superior traction. In fact, they are the best considered for treadwear out of all DR. General UHP are good and extremely light weight - 23lbs each. That's why I use them on the front :).


02av6: your goat resembles the old av6 coupe! how fast are you running in the 1/4m? low 11s?

Somewhat. Two black cars... two performance oriented. Comparing both I can conclude that with blown AV6 in top shape I liked it better up to 45-50mph in street driving or bumper to bumper due low weight. And GTO is stronger after 50mph. That soon will change with new set of IM/Heads/Cam kit/TC which I plan to do before October.

Low 11s should be attainable with good traction with the above mentioned upcoming mods. As of right now, I feel the car is low 12sec. since I see what guys nationwide are running with similar mods. But I never had the chance to visit the track. Early October is the plan.

[oken]

the GTO looks unreal, while the monaro front looks good its the GTO conversions that turns heads over here in AUS, we get alot of ppl converting their SS commodores into "4 door GTO's" and they dont look to bad at all

[02AV6]

Some exterior changes: iPhone 3g pics not best but ok.

MONARO rear/side
http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/gto114.jpg

GTO front modified
http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/gto115.jpg

[02AV6]

And finally received some goodies...

AFR p&p 225cc heads/custom FTI cam + custom entire valvetrain + ARP studs/upgraded oil pump/timing set/street ported FAST 92mm IM/TCI tc + valve body :naughty:

Install + tune coming end of this month

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/gto_heads_cam_tc1.jpg

http://www.v6performance.net/gallery/data/500/gto_heads_cam_tc2.jpg

[slowaccord]

serge did u ever think about a FAST intake manifold?

I was researching those on the corvette forums and there was mixed opinions about whether they were effective for bolt on ls2's

[slowaccord]

U READ MY MIND! I'm typing my post and BAM 92 mm fast intake manifold appears!

[02AV6]

:D Yep, street ported FAST 92mm

[slowaccord]

:D Yep, street ported FAST 92mm

if you dont mind telling how much was your manifold? I found it around 785-850 typically online

[02AV6]

if you dont mind telling how much was your manifold? I found it around 785-850 typically online

I believe that's correct. Street porting by FTI (Flowtech Induction) was $250. The most important thing is the whole combo with peripherals were matched precisely. A lot of thought has been put into to make the combo work together and deliver the best results possible. That's how I confident @ FTI.