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Old January 3rd, 2009, 10:22 PM   #1
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best d2s bulbs for the money?

brightest d2s bulbs out in the market other than the 85122+..

p.s

looking for 5000k instead of 4300...

any1?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 10:29 PM   #2
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philips unison 6k there about 120 i believe. its really bad a$$
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 10:33 PM   #3
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^it's philips ultinon 6000k, not unison.

philips also makes a very rare 5000k bulb as well i forgot the number but its something like 85122CM or something.
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1) 85122WX (aka Philips Ultinon 6000k)
2) 85122CM (aka Philips 5000k)
3) 85122LL (aka Philips long life)
4) 85122+ (aka Philips 4300k)
5) 85122 (aka Philips 3800k)
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100) aftermarket junk
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:00 PM   #5
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1) 85122WX (aka Philips Ultinon 6000k)
2) 85122CM (aka Philips 5000k)
3) 85122LL (aka Philips long life)
4) 85122+ (aka Philips 4300k)
5) 85122 (aka Philips 3800k)
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100) aftermarket junk

will that ultinon 6000k have brighter output than the 85122cm 5000k and others?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:12 PM   #6
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1) 85122WX (aka Philips Ultinon 6000k)
2) 85122CM (aka Philips 5000k)
3) 85122LL (aka Philips long life)
4) 85122+ (aka Philips 4300k)
5) 85122 (aka Philips 3800k)
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100) aftermarket junk
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will that ultinon 6000k have brighter output than the 85122cm 5000k and others?


i was looking on ebay and they have much less ouput..the ultinon have about 2400 lumens compared to 3400 lumens for the 4300k...

so what exactly makes the ultinon the BEST??
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brighter... no. bluer... yes. the higher you go with the temp, the less usuable light you'll have.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:27 PM   #8
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piaa super cobalt 6600k. i upgraded to these bulbs in my g35, and it was expensive, but it was worth it. white with a tint of blue.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 02:51 AM   #9
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brighter... no. bluer... yes. the higher you go with the temp, the less usuable light you'll have.

ok..so the temp 6000k for the ultinon is what makes it good and expensive?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 03:54 AM   #10
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85122 are definitely not 3800k. thats halogen territory.

85122 and 85122+ are both 4300k. 85122+ is more resistant to color shifting and will stay closer to 4300k throughout its life. 85122 will color shift with use and "fade" closer to 5000k as they get older.
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heres is the question...

what makes the 5000k and 6000k ultinon so expensive compared to the nice 85122+ ??


i want brightness but not a 4300
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i spent 25$ on my 6000k d2s bulbs on ebay.but there not Phillips or anything speical.there not to bad,especially for the price!
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heres is the question...

what makes the 5000k and 6000k ultinon so expensive compared to the nice 85122+ ??


i want brightness but not a 4300

I believe the amount of hours they can last for is one of the things that makes em more expensive besides the kelvin.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:03 PM   #14
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I believe the amount of hours they can last for is one of the things that makes em more expensive besides the kelvin.
i would hope so..
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:16 PM   #15
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hmmmm...

hard decision..

85122WX

or

85122CM

who wins?

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Old January 4th, 2009, 01:11 PM   #16
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The only advice I can give is the Ultinon's look ridiculously hot in a retro. I just bought some myself about a month ago.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 05:35 PM   #17
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The only advice I can give is the Ultinon's look ridiculously hot in a retro. I just bought some myself about a month ago.

yea..how do you describe the color..do u have tsx projectors?
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hmmmm...

hard decision..

85122WX

or

85122CM

who wins?

??
85122CM Philips 5000k are pretty good I had them for years, the CM stands for Color Match. They come at 5000k just incase you needed to replace 1 of your bulbs at some point these were replacments bulbs. The standard 4100-4300k Phillips bulbs well used would look more pure white if you replaced the burned out bulb with a new version of the 4100k bulb. After using the 4100k it color turns after many hrs of use. You should be able to get the Phillips 5000K CM bulbs for dirt cheap I used to buy them for like $75 shipped back then. It will give you a more pure white output also.
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Old January 6th, 2009, 11:25 AM   #19
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post some cutoff line pics of your d2s retro bulbs guys!
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http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40963

Philips 85122+


Philips 85122CM


Philips 85122WX

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85122CM Philips 5000k are pretty good I had them for years, the CM stands for Color Match. They come at 5000k just incase you needed to replace 1 of your bulbs at some point these were replacments bulbs. The standard 4100-4300k Phillips bulbs well used would look more pure white if you replaced the burned out bulb with a new version of the 4100k bulb. After using the 4100k it color turns after many hrs of use. You should be able to get the Phillips 5000K CM bulbs for dirt cheap I used to buy them for like $75 shipped back then. It will give you a more pure white output also.
i wish i could find the 85122CM bulbs for $75... all i keep finding are ones for sale at like 170ish.
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Philips 85122+


Philips 85122CM


Philips 85122WX

thanx i just registered
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what you think about the 6700k ? think the diff is worth it compared to the 6000k?

im guessing yes because the 5000k and the 6000k look almost the same on the pics..
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what you think about the 6700k ? think the diff is worth it compared to the 6000k?

im guessing yes because the 5000k and the 6000k look almost the same on the pics..
If you're referring to this picture...


then I think you're confusing the 5000k with the 5700k. There's a noticeable difference between the 5000k and 6000k, as well as less output. 6700k would be overkill, not to mention you'll have a fun time trying to find a Philips 6700k D2S bulb. Some of the bulbs in that picture will be very hard to find since they're not sold in the U.S. and rarely make it here.

You need to keep in mind that as you choose a higher temp bulb, you're sacrificing lumens (light output). From http://www.ntu-mc.com/vb/showthread.php?p=16689:

Philips 85122: 4300K with 3200 lumens
Philips 85122+: 4300K with 3400 lumens
Philips 85122CM: 4800K with 3100 lumens
Philips 85122WX: 6000K with 2400 lumens

If you just want a nicely colored bulb, the sky is the limit (get 50k), but if you want to find a happy medium between color & output...stick with the 4300-6000k area.
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i was referring to your pic.

anyways hidconcept.com is offering me the 6700k brand new in package

but im going to be loosing a lot lumens but i think it will look niceee with my tsx retro..

still deciding between 6000k and 6700k or even 5000k

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Where do you see any Philips 6700k bulbs on that site? I don't.
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That color chart is way off.
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That color chart is way off.
The chart's correct, but the angle of the pic is way off so that you can't see the "3000k" label at the bottom.
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The chart's correct, but the angle of the pic is way off so that you can't see the "3000k" label at the bottom.
LOL ok because I was like the other temps look right but the 4100k is more like 3000k.
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