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VtecShow · August 26th, 2003, 01:05 PM

I got this error code when i went to Autozone today for my check engine light. They said, it was insuffient EGR Flow. And I also found a website that, we should have had a recall for this. Recall reference number 99-038. I could not get any more information. Does anyone have clue, that it is a recall or the website for all of our recall. Thanks alot.

accordv6 - 99 sedan

Tekksun · August 26th, 2003, 01:33 PM

All the info that I have on this is at home & I'm at work. When I get home I'll try to find it for you.

I can tell you that it is a valid TSB (Technical Service Bulletin). I have a copy of the instructions straight from a Honda dealer. I did the fix myself. I just had the dealer send me the whole kit w/ all needed parts. (I was overseas at the time & Honda UK wouldn't work on my car.) What has to be done is this (simplified):

1. Disconnect Intake and hoses from Intake Manifold.
2. Remove Throttle Body from Intake Manifold
3. Remove Intake Manifold.
4. Drill out EGR port to accomodate stainless steel sleeve.
5. Insert a stainless steel sleeve (included in kit).
6. Remove and replace EGR Valve & Gasket (included in kit)
7. Re-install Intake Manifold.
8. Re-install Throttle Body (new gasket in kit)
9. Reconnect Intake and all hoses.
10. Clear Fault Code (I had a friend with an OBDII scanner tool)

**Plumaccordcoupe** · August 26th, 2003, 01:53 PM

Does this TSB apply to all 6th gens?

I have a 99 V6 and am worried that it might happen to my car. But maybe my car already has this done when the least owner had it.

Is there a simple way for me to check this without taking all of that apart

?

Tekksun · August 26th, 2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlumAccordCoupe on August 26th, 2003 at 03:53 PM

Does this TSB apply to all 6th gens?

Quote:

Is there a simple way for me to check this without taking all of that apart ?

I'm not sure. I'll have to check the paper I have at home. I'll let you know, though.

VtecShow · August 26th, 2003, 02:31 PM

Thanks Alot Tekksun

99%StockAV6 · August 26th, 2003, 03:10 PM

You want Service Bulletin 99-085 (Oct. 26 2001) as it replaces 99-038. It covers clogged EGR valves with MIL P0401 or P1491 on all 1998-2000 V6 Accords and some 2001 V6 Accords for 8 years or 80,000 miles.

2001 V6 Accords
4door 1HGCG1...1A000001 - 1HGCG1...1A058654
2door 1HGCG2...1A000001 - 1HGCG2...1A023388

There is no way to check to see if this fix is installed without removing your intake manifold.

Tekksun · August 26th, 2003, 03:14 PM

No problem, here's some more info.....

The problem can be detected by fault code P0401 (insufficient EGR flow) or P1491 (insufficient EGR lift)

These are the cars the TSB applies to:

1998-00 Accord V6 -
ALL

2001 Accord V6 -
4-door from vin # 1HGCG1...1A000001 thru 1HGCG1...1A058564

2-door from vin # 1HGCG2...1A000001 thru 1HGCG2...1A023388

It is covered under a warranty extension of 8 years / 80,000mi

"Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work."

If anyone needs more info or instructions I can scan them & e-mail them to you. They include all part numbers and repair procedures. That is IF you want to do this on your own.

EDIT: 99%StockAV6 posted while I was typing....OOPS

jim-rock · August 29th, 2003, 08:09 AM

i just got that code....I called honda and they said they will fix this problem if it's clogged...
I called the dealership and they said.. if it's clogged, they'll waive the computer link ($80) andfix it for free (from American Honda)

They the guy said, if it needs to be replaced, they are gonna charge me the computer link ($80) plus labor and parts...

I got the same P0401 code, but i'm worried, about playing this russian roulette... cause if it needs to be replaced it's gonna hit me $200... but if it's just clogged i dont pay a thing...

Should I just goto a regular mechanic and get this replaced? I know the mechanic will be alot cheaper than the damn dealership...
oh yeah...i have a 98accord and 67k.. my warranty expired at 60k

jim-rock · August 29th, 2003, 08:26 AM

i found this... i hope this helps anyone with the same problem..

print it out and bring it to the dealer if they give u problems...

http://www.nhtsa.com/TSBScans/sb627312.pdf

99%StockAV6 · August 29th, 2003, 08:34 AM

It would be stupid not to go to the dealer. You have the code that is all that is required of the repair.

"In some areas of the U.S., certain basic chemical properties of gasoline (regardless of brand) may cause the intake manifold EGR port to clog or the EGR valve to fail."

"To be eligible for coverage under this extended warranty, the MIL must be on with of the above DTCs stored."

Edit: The service bulletin above is the same one I have.

August 26th, 2003, 01:05 PM	#1
VtecShow Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0)	Code P0401 I got this error code when i went to Autozone today for my check engine light. They said, it was insuffient EGR Flow. And I also found a website that, we should have had a recall for this. Recall reference number 99-038. I could not get any more information. Does anyone have clue, that it is a recall or the website for all of our recall. Thanks alot. accordv6 - 99 sedan

August 26th, 2003, 01:33 PM	#2
Tekksun Just Another Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0)	All the info that I have on this is at home & I'm at work. When I get home I'll try to find it for you. I can tell you that it is a valid TSB (Technical Service Bulletin). I have a copy of the instructions straight from a Honda dealer. I did the fix myself. I just had the dealer send me the whole kit w/ all needed parts. (I was overseas at the time & Honda UK wouldn't work on my car.) What has to be done is this (simplified): 1. Disconnect Intake and hoses from Intake Manifold. 2. Remove Throttle Body from Intake Manifold 3. Remove Intake Manifold. 4. Drill out EGR port to accomodate stainless steel sleeve. 5. Insert a stainless steel sleeve (included in kit). 6. Remove and replace EGR Valve & Gasket (included in kit) 7. Re-install Intake Manifold. 8. Re-install Throttle Body (new gasket in kit) 9. Reconnect Intake and all hoses. 10. Clear Fault Code (I had a friend with an OBDII scanner tool) __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* ---------------------------------------- [OO\\--[H]--//OO] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ---------------------------------------- [O8]==\X/==[8O] To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ----------------------------------------

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August 26th, 2003, 03:10 PM	#6
99%StockAV6 Traded the AV6... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 514 Trader Rating: (9)	You want Service Bulletin 99-085 (Oct. 26 2001) as it replaces 99-038. It covers clogged EGR valves with MIL P0401 or P1491 on all 1998-2000 V6 Accords and some 2001 V6 Accords for 8 years or 80,000 miles. 2001 V6 Accords 4door 1HGCG1...1A000001 - 1HGCG1...1A058654 2door 1HGCG2...1A000001 - 1HGCG2...1A023388 There is no way to check to see if this fix is installed without removing your intake manifold. __________________ CarDomain: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

August 26th, 2003, 03:14 PM	#7
Tekksun Just Another Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Rome, NY Posts: 290 Trader Rating: (0)	No problem, here's some more info..... The problem can be detected by fault code P0401 (insufficient EGR flow) or P1491 (insufficient EGR lift) These are the cars the TSB applies to: 1998-00 Accord V6 - ALL 2001 Accord V6 - 4-door from vin # 1HGCG1...1A000001 thru 1HGCG1...1A058564 2-door from vin # 1HGCG2...1A000001 thru 1HGCG2...1A023388 It is covered under a warranty extension of 8 years / 80,000mi "Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work." If anyone needs more info or instructions I can scan them & e-mail them to you. They include all part numbers and repair procedures. That is IF you want to do this on your own. EDIT: 99%StockAV6 posted while I was typing....OOPS Last edited by Tekksun; August 26th, 2003 at 03:18 PM..

August 26th, 2003, 02:31 PM	#5
VtecShow Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 7 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks Alot Tekksun

August 29th, 2003, 08:09 AM	#8
jim-rock Player Hater Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1)	i just got that code....I called honda and they said they will fix this problem if it's clogged... I called the dealership and they said.. if it's clogged, they'll waive the computer link ($80) andfix it for free (from American Honda) They the guy said, if it needs to be replaced, they are gonna charge me the computer link ($80) plus labor and parts... I got the same P0401 code, but i'm worried, about playing this russian roulette... cause if it needs to be replaced it's gonna hit me $200... but if it's just clogged i dont pay a thing... Should I just goto a regular mechanic and get this replaced? I know the mechanic will be alot cheaper than the damn dealership... oh yeah...i have a 98accord and 67k.. my warranty expired at 60k __________________ 98 Taffeta White Coupe OEM Body Kit Tanabe Exhaust 8300k HID Piaa 1100x Eibach Pro-kits Tokico Blues AEM CAI Alpine head unit/changer 2 Alpine V12 amps infinity kappas front/ deck boston Acoustics sealed box with 2 10's. Optima Red

August 29th, 2003, 08:26 AM	#9
jim-rock Player Hater Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (1)	i found this... i hope this helps anyone with the same problem.. print it out and bring it to the dealer if they give u problems... http://www.nhtsa.com/TSBScans/sb627312.pdf

August 29th, 2003, 08:34 AM	#10
99%StockAV6 Traded the AV6... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 514 Trader Rating: (9)	It would be stupid not to go to the dealer. You have the code that is all that is required of the repair. "In some areas of the U.S., certain basic chemical properties of gasoline (regardless of brand) may cause the intake manifold EGR port to clog or the EGR valve to fail." "To be eligible for coverage under this extended warranty, the MIL must be on with of the above DTCs stored." Edit: The service bulletin above is the same one I have. __________________ CarDomain: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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