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Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 02:04 PM

BMW M4 (new name for the next generation M3) will have 400hp V8 engine, according to some article. Nice...but I bet its price will be near $60K.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 02:05 PM

**bored&stroked** · September 2nd, 2003, 02:11 PM

That M5 is insane, a 500hp v10.....soooo yummy.....

**borinka99** · September 2nd, 2003, 03:02 PM

siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 03:08 PM

hey Viper are you sure about that new name thing, thats not what i read, i read that the M4 is a totally different machine that they are considering as a limited edition and the M3 will still be made along side it.
as far as BMW history goes, whenever they make a model with a even number name designation, its usually a limited or special edition run, see 6 series, 8 series, Z8, so they are contemplating the M4 as a limited edition.
plus why would you say that and in the same attachment form that magazine, it shows, the M6, the M5, and the M3 at the bottom, right below the M3.

i think you read or heard wrong.

**Plumaccordcoupe** · September 2nd, 2003, 03:09 PM

Those cars are just sick

What I can't figure out is why have both an M3 and an M4 if they have the same V8 engine

.

You could be right snikwad but the Z4 is not a limited edition car.

03LXV6Guy · September 2nd, 2003, 03:12 PM

Is the M3 a 4 door and the M4 a 2 door?

BConly · September 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM

finally a chris baker design that i like

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 03:23 PM

the next M3 will be done like the E36 coupe, cabriolet, sedan and a touring (wagon) model.
yeah the Z4 is not special but oh well, they did that cause they just didnt want it to be a Z3, since it was all new.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 03:31 PM

its being called the M4 becuz of the powerplant. 400bhp = m4.

**bored&stroked** · September 2nd, 2003, 03:45 PM

Where is the Z4 with the 500hp v10?

**Plumaccordcoupe** · September 2nd, 2003, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bored&stroked on September 2nd, 2003 at 05:45 PM

Where is the Z4 with the 500hp v10?

It's called an M6

This name designation stuff with BMW is starting to get a bit confusing. And you thought Mercedes Benz was bad

.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 03:53 PM

chrisnick · September 2nd, 2003, 04:19 PM

coupes and convertibles now use even numbers, and sedans will now use odd numbers. THATS OFFICIAL BMW INFO. i cant wait for the 1/2 series to come out, i want a 1 series hatch.

btw, its chris BANGLE.

vTecaznracer · September 2nd, 2003, 05:02 PM

damn...that M4 looks sexy...

then again...all M series cars look sexy...

BConly · September 2nd, 2003, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisnick on September 2nd, 2003 at 03:19 PM

coupes and convertibles now use even numbers, and sedans will now use odd numbers. THATS OFFICIAL BMW INFO. i cant wait for the 1/2 series to come out, i want a 1 series hatch.

btw, its chris BANGLE.

damnit, where did i get baker from? hmmm now i'm curious...

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BConly on September 2nd, 2003 at 10:13 PM

finally a chris baker design that i like

so what are you saying dawg, you're not feeling the E60 5 series.

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisnick on September 2nd, 2003 at 11:19 PM

coupes and convertibles now use even numbers, and sedans will now use odd numbers. THATS OFFICIAL BMW INFO. i cant wait for the 1/2 series to come out, i want a 1 series hatch.

btw, its chris BANGLE.

thats new to me, care to share your source.

chrisnick · September 2nd, 2003, 07:30 PM

my source? my brain. its not hard to understand it. BMW's been doing it since thier introduction. IE:

5-series - sedan
6-series - coupe
7-series - sedan
8-series - coupe

BMW is merely explanding this into the 1 and 3 series line-ups.

its not rocket science, merely marketing. plus, i saw it in C&D.

**Plumaccordcoupe** · September 2nd, 2003, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisnick on September 2nd, 2003 at 09:30 PM

BMW is merely explanding this into the 1 and 3 series line-ups. its not rocket science, merely marketing. plus, i saw it in C&D.

Well that is all true but that doesn't explain the place of the Z4. Strangely there is no 4 series so is the Z4 a fill in notch for that

.

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 07:42 PM

the Z4 was just named the Z4 cause they didnt want to call it a Z3 since it was a brand new design, and they didnt want any confusion between them.
thats it.

**abram2001** · September 2nd, 2003, 07:43 PM

those taillights look alot like the taillights on a wrx

chrisnick · September 2nd, 2003, 07:55 PM

the 4 series will become the 3 series coupes and convertibles. as will the same for the 2 as the 1 series.

snikwad · September 2nd, 2003, 08:07 PM

where did you learn this Chris?
share with a brotha, it sound possible, and kinda makes sense, but its smacking BMW tradition in the face, so i have a hard time swallowing it.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:29 PM

Stop arguing!!

2 Series: The 2-Series will be based on the 1-Series. It will come in both coupe and cabrio guise, the cabrio version previewed by the CS1 concept. If the 1-Series is scheduled for 2004, the 2-Series must come later in the year I would expect. M2 is for 2005.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:32 PM

Rumors suggest an incredibly low weight of 2310 pounds. True or not, that figure should be very close to that of the production model. The car will be sold in 3-door and 5-door hatchback forms.

The 216 will come with a-you guessed it!-1.6-liter engine, producing 102hp. 214 with a 1.4-liter engine, making 80hp, will come about a year after introduction. The most expensive 2 will be offered with a 2.3 liter six-cylinder drivetrain making about 170hp. And if the car comes with the rumored weight, it should blow its competitors away. Remember a little achievement of perfection called the Lotus Elise?

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:33 PM

BMW 1-series
And you thought the old M-coupe was ugly!

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:34 PM

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:36 PM

Up to 5 different variations are planned, 3-door hatchback, a 5-doorhatchback & a 2-door coupe.A four seater Cabrio & 5-door touring with higher roof, will get approvalproviding the main stream models are a success.Engines will start with the 1.6, 1.8 & 2.0 litre petrol & will use BMW'sValvetronic system, later the Direct-Injection system form the V12 760iL maybe used.Two versions of BMW's 2.0 Litre common-rail turbodiesel engines will bealloy blocks with the latest Bosch injection technology.M2 engine is believed to be a 2.2 or 2.4 Litre with electro-hydraulic valveactuation that allows it to rev to 9000Rpm & should produce 240Bhp.

Viper · September 2nd, 2003, 08:37 PM

2004 BMW 1-series: Four door hatch

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borinka99 vv All that I want vv Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cypress, CA Posts: 5,529 Trader Rating: (2)	siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!

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snikwad Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sorry ass J-ville, NC Posts: 5,093 Trader Rating: (8)	hey Viper are you sure about that new name thing, thats not what i read, i read that the M4 is a totally different machine that they are considering as a limited edition and the M3 will still be made along side it. as far as BMW history goes, whenever they make a model with a even number name designation, its usually a limited or special edition run, see 6 series, 8 series, Z8, so they are contemplating the M4 as a limited edition. plus why would you say that and in the same attachment form that magazine, it shows, the M6, the M5, and the M3 at the bottom, right below the M3. i think you read or heard wrong.

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03LXV6Guy 14.58 =Quickest Gen7 auto Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jax Posts: 3,549 Trader Rating: (3)	Is the M3 a 4 door and the M4 a 2 door?

September 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM	#8
BConly I'm still not 21. Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Santa Barbara Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (0)	finally a chris baker design that i like

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snikwad Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sorry ass J-ville, NC Posts: 5,093 Trader Rating: (8)	the next M3 will be done like the E36 coupe, cabriolet, sedan and a touring (wagon) model. yeah the Z4 is not special but oh well, they did that cause they just didnt want it to be a Z3, since it was all new.

September 2nd, 2003, 03:31 PM	#10
Viper Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn, NY/ Dallas, Texas Posts: 3,274 Trader Rating: (18)	its being called the M4 becuz of the powerplant. 400bhp = m4.

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bored&stroked member: stroppy moo club Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 2,357 Trader Rating: (0)	Where is the Z4 with the 500hp v10?

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chrisnick V6P wandering idiot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,629 1995 Your Mom Trader Rating: (0)	coupes and convertibles now use even numbers, and sedans will now use odd numbers. THATS OFFICIAL BMW INFO. i cant wait for the 1/2 series to come out, i want a 1 series hatch. btw, its chris BANGLE.

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vTecaznracer jinsoku.com Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,904 2001 honda av6 Trader Rating: (36)	damn...that M4 looks sexy... then again...all M series cars look sexy...

September 2nd, 2003, 07:30 PM	#19
chrisnick V6P wandering idiot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,629 1995 Your Mom Trader Rating: (0)	my source? my brain. its not hard to understand it. BMW's been doing it since thier introduction. IE: 5-series - sedan 6-series - coupe 7-series - sedan 8-series - coupe BMW is merely explanding this into the 1 and 3 series line-ups. its not rocket science, merely marketing. plus, i saw it in C&D.

September 2nd, 2003, 07:42 PM	#21
snikwad Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sorry ass J-ville, NC Posts: 5,093 Trader Rating: (8)	the Z4 was just named the Z4 cause they didnt want to call it a Z3 since it was a brand new design, and they didnt want any confusion between them. thats it.

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abram2001 Senior Moderhater Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 6,333 Trader Rating: (19)	those taillights look alot like the taillights on a wrx

September 2nd, 2003, 07:55 PM	#23
chrisnick V6P wandering idiot Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,629 1995 Your Mom Trader Rating: (0)	the 4 series will become the 3 series coupes and convertibles. as will the same for the 2 as the 1 series.

September 2nd, 2003, 08:07 PM	#24
snikwad Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Sorry ass J-ville, NC Posts: 5,093 Trader Rating: (8)	where did you learn this Chris? share with a brotha, it sound possible, and kinda makes sense, but its smacking BMW tradition in the face, so i have a hard time swallowing it.

September 2nd, 2003, 08:32 PM	#26
Viper Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn, NY/ Dallas, Texas Posts: 3,274 Trader Rating: (18)	Rumors suggest an incredibly low weight of 2310 pounds. True or not, that figure should be very close to that of the production model. The car will be sold in 3-door and 5-door hatchback forms. The 216 will come with a-you guessed it!-1.6-liter engine, producing 102hp. 214 with a 1.4-liter engine, making 80hp, will come about a year after introduction. The most expensive 2 will be offered with a 2.3 liter six-cylinder drivetrain making about 170hp. And if the car comes with the rumored weight, it should blow its competitors away. Remember a little achievement of perfection called the Lotus Elise?

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