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Old August 4th, 2004, 11:54 PM   #1
 
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lowering opinions

hey im really new at this and i wantto lower my car. i already have those cheap coilover kits and might put em on. Do they cause any problems in the future? Im thinkin of lowering it 2 inches in the fornt and 1.5 in the back. would that look good? would the performance or handeling be any better? I dont want it to rub and i heard u need camber kits so it wont rub. do u need a camber kit if ur only lowering it 2 inches?

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the lower u go the the stiffer the ride..i think...camber kits help even out ur tires wear...it'll rub only if u go too low and/or w/ big wheels (i.e. 18")
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Old August 5th, 2004, 02:40 PM   #3
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you will need a camber kit. if you can, i would try and get hold of a set of some good quality springs i've heard horror stories from the cheap stuff
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what you pay for is what your gonna get, like the above thread says get some better springs and some struts as well. Ive heard horror stories and seen rides that are lowered on the cheap springs....not worth the time and money in the end.

Look around on here in the classifieds or ebay from some ground controls or eibachs. I got my ground controls from laststarburning, im sure other v6p members will give u great deals
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Old August 9th, 2004, 02:56 PM   #5
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hey im really new at this and i wantto lower my car. i already have those cheap coilover kits and might put em on. Do they cause any problems in the future? Im thinkin of lowering it 2 inches in the fornt and 1.5 in the back. would that look good? would the performance or handeling be any better? I dont want it to rub and i heard u need camber kits so it wont rub. do u need a camber kit if ur only lowering it 2 inches?

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Give us a little more info on your car. Wheel and tire size? Springs/shocks you're looking for?

I have a '97 with KYB AGX shocks all around and Progress Group springs. My car sits about 2.5" lower than stock. The springs are advertised to lower my car 2.3" but I figure they've sagged a bit in 3 years. I have 18x7" wheels and 215/35/18 tires. I've never rubbed once, front or back, BUT, the ride is much more bouncy and stiff than stock and I do scrape my exhaust (Greddy SP) on speed bumps and driveway entrances.

If your willing to sacrifice ride quality for looks, go as low as you want to. If you've got bucks to spend, go with a full coilover system like a Tein setup so you can experiment with the ride height. You have quite a few options and your wise to ask around before you purchase something.


Oh! Get camber kits!!! I have kits front and back and my tires are almost 5 years old with no signs of unusual wear. I figure I've got about 30,000 miles on my tires and still have quite a bit of tread left. If you go two inches lower without camber kits, plan on buying new tires every 8-12 months depending on how hard you drive. Been there done that.

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Old August 28th, 2004, 05:54 PM   #6
 
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alright guys, I'm at the process of dropping my ride and I'm going to use these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33582

What do you guys think? It say it's going to drop 2 on the front and 1.4 at the back. But I think that's for the i4, let see, if it's dropping it 2 then on a v6 it'll be 2 1/2 to 3 right? tell me what you guys think. Thank You
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Old August 28th, 2004, 07:08 PM   #7
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yea, its gonna be around 2 1/2 to 3 for the front, but those springs should suit you well
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hope they won't ride tooo rough
spring compression is very important when it comes to vehicle weight and corner weight

example : a 1350KG 4 cylinder accord can have 6kg/mm front and 4 kg/mm rear ( close to stock compression ) however, a 1450KG V6 accord will make those springs compress more on EVERY ring

I was gonna get a 4 banger set of springs, but then I found out about this factor and I will wait till next summer for a full coilover kit or some really good V6 springs that drop a comfy 2" all around
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Old January 4th, 2005, 05:12 PM   #9
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well I've changed my mind
I'm gonna get the tein s.tech for 200 $ cdn shipped to my door
should fit well with my gr-2 since it's not that much more of a drop
I'm sure it will be lower then I4 but maybe mm rather then .5" +
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Old January 4th, 2005, 05:26 PM   #10
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well I've changed my mind
I'm gonna get the tein s.tech for 200 $ cdn shipped to my door
should fit well with my gr-2 since it's not that much more of a drop
I'm sure it will be lower then I4 but maybe mm rather then .5" +
Good choice, cowgod. I believe Tein has a good warranty attached to their springs. Something like if they sag more than a certain number of millimeters in the first year, they'll replace them free of charge. They should work well with your KYBs. My AGX's work really well with aftermarket springs. Expect a stiffer ride but you knew that already.
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Old January 4th, 2005, 05:30 PM   #11
 
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well I've changed my mind
I'm gonna get the tein s.tech for 200 $ cdn shipped to my door
should fit well with my gr-2 since it's not that much more of a drop
I'm sure it will be lower then I4 but maybe mm rather then .5" +
Yea, get those last time I did say I'm going to get it but then I spend the money on school stuff so I guess I'll have to wait until I save up again Get it and tell me how it handle
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Old January 5th, 2005, 05:28 AM   #12
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cool guys I will
I'll order them in the spring, no rush to drop my ride in the snow and ice
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Old January 12th, 2005, 12:21 AM   #13
 
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hey. if i would get the tein springs, would i need to get shocks for that? i heard that the stock ones with springs are going to mess the shocks up in a year. does anybody with tein springs ahve any problems going up a driveway or anything? i dont know how low it is. i m going to put a ground kit all arround on pretty soon. does anybody have pix? thnx and camber kits are a must have for me because tires arent cheap.
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Old January 12th, 2005, 12:42 PM   #14
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shocks and coils for better ride comfort

stock shocks suck on 1" drops or more
cause they are not made to handle a drop
GR-2's offer a nice compressed n2o chamber and handle decent ( wife has them on her civic with a 2.5" drop on H&R race coils )
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Old January 12th, 2005, 02:37 PM   #15
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hey. if i would get the tein springs, would i need to get shocks for that? i heard that the stock ones with springs are going to mess the shocks up in a year. does anybody with tein springs ahve any problems going up a driveway or anything? i dont know how low it is. i m going to put a ground kit all arround on pretty soon. does anybody have pix? thnx and camber kits are a must have for me because tires arent cheap.
I suggest both shocks and springs. I had Progress springs over my stock shocks for about a month and hated the ride. As Cowgod said, the stock shocks can't handle shorter springs and leave you with a mushy ride. GR2's or AGX's are great with aftermarket springs and they don't cost an arm and a leg. More like just an arm and a foot.
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lol. thnx for the tip.
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Old January 13th, 2005, 12:28 PM   #17
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forgot to mention I have GR-2 on my accord now, and I installed stock springs and it's a luxury ride

cannot wait for the tein
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Old January 14th, 2005, 10:06 AM   #18
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getting my tein today @ 4pm
guess what I'm gonna do this weekend ?
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Old January 14th, 2005, 10:10 AM   #19
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getting my tein today @ 4pm
guess what I'm gonna do this weekend ?
Oh do tell, Cowgod!
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Old January 17th, 2005, 07:13 AM   #20
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got my coils but didn't install them - too cold



got some eyelids to complete the JDM front look



will install the springs when I get some garage time and eyelids when I wash her down
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Old January 17th, 2005, 06:58 PM   #21
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nice cowgod
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Old January 20th, 2005, 06:58 AM   #22
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I cannot wait to install
I may wait till march cause there is no point to drop her now
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ohh nice updates. did you get custom settings for the front springs?



i'm still not sure on what to get, d2 or tein coilovers.
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Old January 25th, 2005, 05:51 AM   #24
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ohh nice updates. did you get custom settings for the front springs?
i'm still not sure on what to get, d2 or tein coilovers.
I would not bother with coilovers, unless you have nice winter conditions, but here it's a real pain to remove the kit and put OEM shocks/springs every 6 months

I got S-Tech Springs and I am gonna drop it in march ( no time right now )
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I would not bother with coilovers, unless you have nice winter conditions, but here it's a real pain to remove the kit and put OEM shocks/springs every 6 months

I got S-Tech Springs and I am gonna drop it in march ( no time right now )
awesome Tell us when you do install it. And if can take some pictures Oh , maybe you can help me when I get mine
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oh then the springs are regular settings for the I4?
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Old January 25th, 2005, 04:50 PM   #27
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id try out the d2 coilovers. alot of people are raving about them
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Old January 26th, 2005, 05:08 AM   #28
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oh then the springs are regular settings for the I4?
they are set for the weight of the car ... all CD5 or CD7
you can have these on the wagon - they weigh in @ 3200+ lbs or the I4
it's the compression rate the the spring that makes the "difference"

they are suppose to drop the I4 2.1 " and 1.8" in the rear
I'm hoping for a 2.2-2.4" drop with 2.0" in the rear
I'm gonna measure before and after to tell you guys exactly how much

maybe I'll install them early .. like this weekend cause I really don't wanna wait ... we'll see
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Old January 26th, 2005, 11:07 AM   #29
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wow 2 inches youre a brave soul! take it easy on those inclines
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Old January 26th, 2005, 11:25 AM   #30
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wanna see a drop I use to have ?

stock height


3" dropped


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