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Old October 9th, 2005, 09:34 PM   #1
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Unhappy riding a boat with eibach springs.

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i bought the accord with stock shocks and MAXspeed springs as the suspension, but was unhappy with the ride (isn't MAXspeed ultra-cheep, ebay springs anyway?) seeing that i was only going to use the car for daily driving and not racing (though i plan to take it to the strip one of these days) i went with eibach pro-kit (new from an ebay store) and koni reds (new from shox.com) left at factory settings. result 9 months after the change:







i'm even more unhappy due to the look. i thought the springs would settle and it would look better, but after so many months, it looks the same. i looked this boat-look thing up in the forums, and it seems to be normal for the pro-kits, but is the front really supposed to be that high? it looks like it's higher than what it would be with an oem suspension.

so what do i do now? is this acceptable? is there a way to lower the front? are the koni reds to blame? if so, what should shocks should replace them with? is it a good idea to change the front spings out for another brand or lower springs and leave the rear as is? do i have to change all of the springs?

thanks for the help.
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Old October 9th, 2005, 09:49 PM   #2
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eibach prokits r ****in gay


get H&R sport...i had the same problem
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Old October 9th, 2005, 09:52 PM   #3
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something is wrong ?

I have seen cars lowered with prokits, and konis, and the wheel gap was very minimal with 18" rims.

Eibach is a good company, so i don't see the reason that they are crap....

are the konis adjustable ?
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his car is sitting wayyy to high for pro kits, i got them on my car and i still have oem wheels and they have less clearance than that. i wouldn't know about the shocks being the problem but that would be my first guess. im using kyb agx.
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Maybe you got the ones for a v6 with a stiffer rate? That's awefully high - it looks higher than stock!
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Hmm...are the springs mixed up (ie back are installed in the front and vice versa?)?
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Old October 10th, 2005, 07:07 AM   #7
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i have pro kits as well and my front isnt as high. dont konis have adjustable perches? maybe the front is set on the high perch and the rear is set on the low perch
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Old October 10th, 2005, 09:30 AM   #8
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as soon as i saw the car like that from the auto shop, i called eibach to make sure it was installed correctly by comparing the numbers on the springs. they are installed correctly.
the koni reds are internally adjustable, but isn't that just for stiffness? I have a friend who will stiffen the shocks for me (about 70% in the back, about 30% in the front).
i bought the v6 springs. should i get the 4cyl ones instead? and what are the risks of just changing the front springs out with, say, the H&R sports?
i should contact eibach and see what they say.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 09:36 AM   #9
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Check the perch mount on the front, it's probably up a notch too high and the rear a notch too low
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Hmm...are the springs mixed up (ie back are installed in the front and vice versa?)?

i think if he did that the front would be really low and the back would be really high, since the stronger spring would be on the lighter rear and the softer spring would be on the heavier front. i was gonna say the same thing until i thought about it more
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Old October 10th, 2005, 12:34 PM   #11
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My ride is on Pro-kits and KYB AGXs. The front is higher on mine but not that much. Looks like your shocks are shot in the back like someone said or the springs were improperly installed in the front. You can go with H&R springs in the front with no side-affects. I had Progress Group Springs all around but the ride was terrible and I scraped the splash guard under the engine and my exhaust over the smallest speed bumps and driveways. I wouldn't go any lower than a 2" drop in the front if you want a decent ride. I was at about 2.5" all around and hated the ride.
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I got H&R Sports with Koni Yellow shocks... very nice drop even. No sagging at all. Stock shocks create sag before I got the Koni Yellows tho.
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Old October 10th, 2005, 11:26 PM   #13
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wow that shiet is was higher than my stock o_0
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Old October 10th, 2005, 11:32 PM   #14
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check your trunk,. you might have a fat chick locked up in there lol jp
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Old October 11th, 2005, 02:38 PM   #15
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Old October 11th, 2005, 02:52 PM   #16
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hey, the reason why you have such a wide/high wheel gap (the boat look) is because you have v6 springs, clearly the reason is because the v6 springs are made for a heavier engine, these specific springs are made for the weight of the v6 engine, if your car was v6, the engine would be 50 pounds more, allowing the springs to drop by settling in with more weight, and cleary your lower in the back because the back doesnt matter, because there is no engine there!!, you need to buy the 4cyl springs in order for the drop to be correct.
dude, he has a v6
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Old October 11th, 2005, 02:55 PM   #17
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huh???? howd you reply that, i never said that...lol
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Old October 11th, 2005, 02:57 PM   #18
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lol I had prokits, mine never looked like that.
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Old October 11th, 2005, 03:03 PM   #19
 
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I was considering aftermarket springs...until I read many threads on this (and other) sites.

Obviously these various spring suppliers ALL have quality control problems. Some people have "good luck" with one brand and then put down the other. The truth of the matter is that they're all iffy.

And even if the car does sit "level," who's to say that the springs are truly equal in rate?

No thanks.
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Old October 11th, 2005, 07:17 PM   #20
 
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WHOAA! that wheel gap is huuuge! i had pro kit and it never looked like that. i suggest you get some h&r's or tein s-techs.
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huh???? howd you reply that, i never said that...lol
uh huh..sureeeeee
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Old October 12th, 2005, 07:47 AM   #22
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dude, im sure eibach will take care of you if you send them the pics you showed us.
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dude, im sure eibach will take care of you if you send them the pics you showed us.
Any good, reputable company would!
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