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Old March 5th, 2006, 06:37 PM   #1
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Best way to lower

K guys im gonna be droppin my accord in a month or two and i need to know the best way to change out the springs. I got a set of DZS Motorsports 2.25 In. Lowering springs i wanna put on.. I heard a way about jacking up the spindle, unbolting everything, then lowering down the spindle and the spring should come right out, and there is the other way with getting a spring compressor and doing it like that.. what do you guys think? Also im gonna need a camber kit.. can anyone suggest a good set to buy for the 2.25in. drop? and some good struts too.. im rollin on 18's just to let you know if that may make a diff.. Thanks
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Old March 6th, 2006, 03:31 PM   #2
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get an R-1 camber kit - like 50+-$ on ebay
they are just what u need to adjust 2 degree camber

and get a spring compressor / rent one etc - much much easier
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what about struts? and is the degree you can adjust the camber at the same amount as you lower it? or whats the ratio? cause if its the same id need more than 2 degree's? Sorry cowgod and everyone else for askin so many questions.. You will be gettin sick of me soon probably.
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Old March 6th, 2006, 06:24 PM   #4
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You could just go all out and buy front strut, rear sways and tiebar
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Old March 6th, 2006, 10:01 PM   #5
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haha i think he meant shocks
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Old March 7th, 2006, 10:09 AM   #6
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my camber kit has two adjustments 1.5 and 2 degree
I set it for 2 degree and did an alignment and it was fine

if you plan on using aftermarket springs, you'll need to upgrade to aftermarket shocks. I went the cheap route and score KYB GR-2 ( more less a stock OEM replacement ) and they have not given any problems at all

my suspension setup is very smooth and stock rebound if there are any bumps so it's comfortable, a smooth transfer of shock travel vs coil spring rate

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Old March 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM   #7
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yeah but how much is your drop?
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Old March 7th, 2006, 01:32 PM   #8
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yeah but how much is your drop?
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almost 3"



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Old March 7th, 2006, 02:19 PM   #9
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nice pix mr cow...altho it doesnt lo0k like a 3" drop hehe ... i like the 1st pix rims better than stockies.. ..lo0ks good
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Old March 7th, 2006, 07:22 PM   #10
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I don't want to be a pic whore, but trust me it's close to 3"

this is stock suspension

at the dealer before I bought it - stock suspension



slammed 3" first summer I had the car with adjustable sleeve coilovers


on a joyride with a group of friends - GR-2's with stock springs, was ready for winter


last summer with tein s tech springs matched with the GR-2s

a pic the day I got my car back from the mechanic after the swap just completed
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Old March 8th, 2006, 03:36 AM   #11
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ok nice pics cowgod.. jeez there is such a difference between your car and mine.. just by a year.. So then 2degrees would be fine for a 2.25 drop..Cowgod do you change out your springs every year for winter?
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yes I ran it dropped once for winter, but I was a snowplow and damaged a lot of parts
it's not worth it to be dropped when we get 12-20" inch snow falls and then it turns to ice
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Old March 8th, 2006, 11:00 PM   #13
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Well im in Indiana in the states.. so i dont think i get as bad of weather as you Isnt that kinda a pain to change em out twice a year?
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Old March 9th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #14
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Well im in Indiana in the states.. so i dont think i get as bad of weather as you Isnt that kinda a pain to change em out twice a year?
no because then it gives me time to inspect all the parts associated at the same time
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Old March 9th, 2006, 06:17 PM   #15
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makes sense...well, i guess if you've been doing it and you have all the tools and time then it wouldnt be a pain..
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If you are going to go 2.25 inch drop then you might need some rear camber adjustments. My car when lowered 1.5 inches or so needed some rear camber adjustments for about .3 out of alignment but the front was just fine. Others have had no problem with camber on the 1.5 inch drop. Can't tell you why, I haven't the slightest idea. I do not know of a brand that is worth the money so maybe someone on here would know of a good brand?!?! Something to consider though definitely before you go all out. Also if a bolt is stuck and you try to pry it off and it isn't coming off be prepared to stop and take it to someone with air tools I learned that the hard way...
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Old March 13th, 2006, 09:05 PM   #17
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ive got access to every tool possibly needed. so thats no problem
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Old March 13th, 2006, 09:11 PM   #18
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what is the ratio from lowering height to adjustment rate?
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I dont think things have ratios as much as it is trial and error. It all depends on each car really and you will probably need to talk to whoever is doing the alingment and they should be able to let you know a little more on what they are going to need to give you even tire wear.
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Old March 14th, 2006, 04:11 PM   #20
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guess ill go talk to a mechanic somewhere..
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Old March 16th, 2006, 12:06 AM   #21
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I see this kit on Ebay for KYB Complete Shock/Strut Kit.. You guys think thats a good deal?


Edit** Wooops.. Forgot the link

Link here

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Old March 22nd, 2006, 03:02 AM   #22
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Ok i got the KYB Gr2 Shocks/Stut Kit for my car, so i got the Kit, the springs.. Now i just need to get a camber kit and .. Wasnt it mentioned somewhere that i would need new bushings? if so what kind or what specific type of bushings are they? Thanks Guys
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Ok i got the KYB Gr2 Shocks/Stut Kit for my car, so i got the Kit, the springs.. Now i just need to get a camber kit and .. Wasnt it mentioned somewhere that i would need new bushings? if so what kind or what specific type of bushings are they? Thanks Guys
your more than likely gonna need new lower strut bolts for the rear, but you might as well get the bushing also for the rear since it usually seizes up on the car. i replaced all my front bushings with the energy suspension kit, but keep in mind that it will make squishing noises on cold days and if your gonna have a shop do all the work, im sure it will cost you and arm and a leg. i spent the whole day at my cousins shop doing my whole suspension: struts, springs, bushings, and a couple of other things.
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Old March 22nd, 2006, 04:17 PM   #24
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Thanks.. Do you know the price for full set of front and rear bushings? and how much the strut bolts are? I wanna get an idea of what im looking at so i dont look so shocked at the parts store if its gonna be a fortune.. I plan on having using my dads polebarn/weldingshop to do the lower with him helping.. He's got every tool possibly needed to do the job so with me and him doing the lower it shouldnt be too bad of time.. Whats gonna be making the car make squishing sounds on cold days? Is that gonna be permanent?
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Hey cowgod what size rims do you have? -i dont recall you ever saying
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the squishing sound only happens if you have polyurethane bushings and the lower strut bolts wont cost too much but i forgot how much that rear lower bushing or whatever the bolt goes through costs.
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so try not to get polyurathane bushings?
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polyurethane bushings are alot better than the stock ones
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Thanks.. Do you know the price for full set of front and rear bushings? and how much the strut bolts are? I wanna get an idea of what im looking at so i dont look so shocked at the parts store if its gonna be a fortune.. I plan on having using my dads polebarn/weldingshop to do the lower with him helping.. He's got every tool possibly needed to do the job so with me and him doing the lower it shouldnt be too bad of time.. Whats gonna be making the car make squishing sounds on cold days? Is that gonna be permanent?
Front stabalizer bushings for the front from honda are $30 the rears should be about the same so look at spending something like $75-80 as a rough estimate.

I also have had no problems with my bushings sounding squishy or w/e.
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Thanks Powder.. Im gonna try going to pepboys and see what their prices are, but at least now i know what im looking at.. What about the bolts? do you know off hand? thanks.. Also i got my KYB GR2 Shock/Strut kit today and they come with what looks like a spacer and a hex nut for each shock.. cowgod since you have them is that what you got in your kit? or is there anything else you had or bought new?
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