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Old June 3rd, 2003, 08:11 AM   #1
 
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What are the down falls of 18"s?

I know the positve things about going up to 18's but what are the negative things (ex. gas, ride quality, speed, etc.) Anyone from South Jersey have 18's? What do you thinK?
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stiffer ride, reduces braking & acceleration performance, more expensive tires. They look cool though.
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overall would you say that the pro's out way the con's?
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Old June 3rd, 2003, 01:30 PM   #4
 
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i had 19's and it was kinda bumpy, but it looked good so i would say go for your 18's
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Downfalls? Hmmm.
They're kinda small.
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How much braking and acceleration do you lose? Is it really noticable? How would put in percentages? (10% lose)
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18's, unless they're really light, will feel like you're carrying probably 300-400 lb of extra passenger weight around all the time.
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Is it really that bad? I was considering going with 17' TL-S or CL-S Type S OEM rims (Is there a differance) but I heard they were heavy to. I think I read that they were 26 lbs which is just as much as the 18's I was looking at.
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Is it really that bad? I was considering going with 17' TL-S or CL-S Type S OEM rims (Is there a differance) but I heard they were heavy to. I think I read that they were 26 lbs which is just as much as the 18's I was looking at.
It's all about rotational inertia- the rims may weigh the same, but it's where all the weight is concentrated. It's easier to spin 26lbs when it's at the axis of rotation compared with 26 lbs 9" farther out.

The TL-S rims are lighter, but they're also only 6.5" wide compared with 7" for the CL-S rims, no outside lip on the CL-S rims either, so you have to be careful about curbing those rims.

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Do they look that much different and which do you think looks better? Will they have the same tire size?
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I think the CL-S rims look better, but they're also kind of heavy. The advantage with 7" rims is that you can use 225 width tires and still be in spec with most tires for rim width. You lose straight line performance, but you gain handling from the wider tire. I'd go with either 215/50/17 (6.5" or 7"), 225/45/17 (7") or 225/50/17 (7"). 215/50/17 and 225/50/17 are very close to stock diameter. 225/45/17 is about 3% smaller. I have 225/45/17 on my car, but next time I replace my tires, I'm going with either of the other sizes I mentioned.

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I would of thought the 225/45/17 would be a perfect mix of acceleration and handling . Why are you going for a different size? Does one perform better than another in acceleration/handling?
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twopu i got some 18s for sale if your interested. I'm from jersey so we could meet up if you wanted to check em out. the ride is a little rougher but its not horrible. It also depends on your suspension setup, if your cars lower its also going to add a little rougher of a ride. I'll e-mail you pics if you want, i dont know how to post
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Downfalls? Hmmm.
They're kinda small.




i gotta get 19's again hehe..
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I would of thought the 225/45/17 would be a perfect mix of acceleration and handling . Why are you going for a different size? Does one perform better than another in acceleration/handling?
I've just got some 225/45ZR/17 and they handle pretty good. Cornering is allright, but I'd reccomend 40's for the best cornering. The 225/45's ride very smooth, I think even smoother than the stock tires which on my car are 195/65/15's. I also noticed with my new tires that the body roll got looser so I think I need some antisway bars to tighten it up a bit. Check out my website for pics of the new tires:

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I would of thought the 225/45/17 would be a perfect mix of acceleration and handling . Why are you going for a different size? Does one perform better than another in acceleration/handling?
Let's just say that I want the remainder of the 3000 miles of extended warranty that I'm losing... Just trying to get closer to stock diameter.
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I contacted tires.com and they said that gas, acceleration, and braking will all improve with 18"s. Now this is the opposite of everything I have heard. He also said that the Nitto 555 would be a really good all-season tire. Is this true?
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Old June 4th, 2003, 08:35 PM   #19
 
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Yah, I figured that. He was probably trying to make a big sale. I guess my question is how much of a lose will I get (5%, 10, 15%, etc. )
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i'm going from teh lx 15" steels to 18" rota subzeros (appox 19lbs). do you think i'm gonna suffer a lot from this?
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Old June 5th, 2003, 03:06 AM   #21
 
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i have 18" c2 evo. when i installed them i felt my performance went down the drain. felt like my car went back to stock. but i like the way it looks so i left them on
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Don't bigger rims increase turning radius as well? That is not a good thing if you need to make a tight turn.



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I got rid of my 18" C2 Evos partly bc of the performance and the ride. I went back to the 16" stock, but my handling went waaay south, so I picked up a set of TL-S wheels. IMHO, 17" with 50 series tires are the best overall for performance, handling, ride comfort and look.
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Old June 5th, 2003, 08:29 PM   #24
 
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i like my rim size. 17 x 7.5 215/50/17
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Old June 11th, 2003, 01:09 PM   #25
 
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i just bought racing hart c3's 245/40/18... am i going to feel any gringing on the fenders when i turn or hit bumps?
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Old June 11th, 2003, 01:32 PM   #26
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i like my rim size. 17 x 7.5 215/50/17
Do you have rubbing???
Whats the offset on em ??
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Old June 11th, 2003, 03:06 PM   #27
 
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i think the offset is +42mm.... i wanna know if i will have rubbing cuz i haven't gotten them yet. should have them next week
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Old June 11th, 2003, 03:09 PM   #28
 
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I highly doubt that you'll get rubbing unless your car is dropped. And even if its dropped it depends on much it is dropped. But I say if its dropped more than 2" than it might rub a little.
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Old June 11th, 2003, 04:44 PM   #29
 
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i just got 18"s from motegi..the mr7 in gunmetal, i got them wrapped in kumho tires, i think they feel lighter than my old tsw revos in 17".......but the look of 17" to 18" is huge......but 19" would look the best.......btw i dont race so i dont care about weight, and my rims are 45mm offset and they are 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 and i rub a tiny bit sometimes....and i have a 1.5" drop
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Old June 11th, 2003, 05:04 PM   #30
 
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I agree with Midnight Rider, although I'd like to add this, I believe if your gonna buy some rims, 18's look the best and if your car ain't rubbing a little bit that means it isn't dropped, or it isn't dropped enough. I have 17's with no drop(YET) and I think the gaps in the wheel well, just look absolutely stupid and I kick myself in the ass for ever buying 17 inch rims.
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