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Old June 23rd, 2003, 09:29 PM   #1
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What kind of amp should i use?

Im going to put in some Infinity 6.5 Infinity Kappa components in the front and ive got infinity kappa 6x9s in the rears, i want to amplify all 4 speakers, can you tell me what kind of amp to use
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6.5 Kappa components-RMS 90W-270w peak-4 ohms

6x9 rears-330w max power-110rms-4 ohm


what would be the best amp for these? i dont know anything about car audio, or if you have any suggestions please feel free to suggest



and keep in mind...im not planning on buying and kind of jl or some expensive ass amp, just something clean and simple
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a 4 channle amp
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Old June 23rd, 2003, 11:02 PM   #3
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yeah i realize a 4 channel amp...but im talking specifics.... like a model # and name........cause i know there are hard core sound peeps on here
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yeah i realize a 4 channel amp...but im talking specifics.... like a model # and name........cause i know there are hard core sound peeps on here
I love how ppl ask for amp suggestions.. but yet they do not give the person their budget... when you say you dont wanna spend alot.. what does that mean? Also if you buy from online expect to install the amp yourself. If you expect to buy retail..I cant help you because I never buy from local shops... too expensive for the same dam thing you can get online.

so if you're going the online route:
budget: 200 - 250
check out US acoustics 4085 amp at www.crutchfield.com or perhaps ebay. Solid entry level amp with a great warranty(3 years if you buy from crutchfield)


budget: 300 - 400
probably a JL 300/4 on eBay
Hifonics 4 channel @ www.thezeb.com
a PPI PCX 4 channel amp(look up specifics at www.precisionpower.com) check out carmedia1.com for good prices on new amps or eBay for used ones.
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a 4 channle amp
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Old June 24th, 2003, 12:20 PM   #6
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actually i kinda covered budget,

"and keep in mind...im not planning on buying and kind of jl or some expensive ass amp, just something clean and simple"

ill check out the us acoustics one
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if you go to www.ikesound.com they selling some cheap amps
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ok, let 's see you plan on putting some decent Infinity Kappas in the front and rear, then you want to get some cheap amp to power them, what's the logic?

You have some nice Infinity Kappas, why dont you spend alittle more money for a decent amp like Xtant, Jl Audio, etc.

I have Polk Momo MM6 in the front and Infinity Kappa 692.5i in the rear powered by an Xtant A4004T
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im not a car audio guru, i probably wont even tell the difference, my infinitys give me tonz of clarity, thats why i love them......since the jl isnt that much more i will prob go with that just to be sure.....but thanks for the input
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Originally posted by 2002HondaAckord on June 24th, 2003 at 12:44 PM

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back to the subject have you concidered MTX or alpine?

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the specs on the US Acoustic amp look great! i always wanterd to get one to check it out, but never did. I would go with a US Ac. 4 channel, it LOOKS to be the best bang for your buck, but then again i've never heard one. Or just get a Rockford 4 channel, you cant go wrong w/ Rockford, if you dont mind spendin a little more. Let me know if you get the US Ac. amp, i'm curious to see how it sounds.
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Old June 26th, 2003, 11:15 AM   #12
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no im going to go with the jl......no i did not consider mtx or alpine cuz ive had alpine amps b4 and it sucked....and i dont like mtx
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PPI art series? McIntosh? PG? Memphis? Avionixx? Alpine?
i have a memphis amp and i love it
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Old June 26th, 2003, 12:42 PM   #14
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see most of the amps you are naming...i dont even know......like i said b4......i dont know **** about car audio....i just want a nice system....a jl amp and 4 infinity speakers makes me very happy!

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One of my personal fav's good ol'e soundstream.. They have a 4 channel thats 85x4 look on line an you can get them for a good price....
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i dont think thats enough wattage for the infinitys
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What kind of Inifinity speakers are you running in the back? 693.5?
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Old July 3rd, 2003, 09:56 PM   #18
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692.5i in the rear, and i cant remember but i got 6.5 components for the front, cant remember which one
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It's gonna be hard to find any amp with in reason that has more power then 85x4. With some amps the more power the more destortion you get. Take a look at power sheets if you have the time to look at the destortion level... good luck.
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blk coupe, i have no idea what you said, please put in it some easier to understand terms,i was planning on just going witht the 300/4 from jl,
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It's gonna be hard to find any amp with in reason that has more power then 85x4. With some amps the more power the more destortion you get. Take a look at power sheets if you have the time to look at the destortion level... good luck.
wow... I hope this guy was just joking... please please tell me he's joking and whatever he just said can be passed off as just jibberish...

please do explain what you mean by "distortion level", and why you cant find an amp that can deliver more than 85 rms watts due to this "increased" distortion level...

I look forward to this discussion

midnight.. the jl is a good amp.. if you dont mind having the same power for 4ohms as well as 2 ohms down the road. expensive.. but eBay has some great prices on it... prices I think should be what they are instead of those bloated ridiculous retail prices.
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yeah, well what do you mean about the whole 4 ohm to 2 ohm thing, like i said b4 i know nothing about car audio, but i found somebody on the site selling a jl 300/4 for 269
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how about RockFord I have the same setup with Infinity's and Iím thinking about getting a ROCKFORD FOSGATE 801X runs about 300 on eBay is the JL 300 better?

A little off topic here. Wiring the amp and speakers, Running 4 AWG for the amp and 12 AWG for the speakers good enough?
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well from what i know, jl makes some of the best stuff, i like rockford stuff also, but if im going to spend 300 or around there i will probably go with jl
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yeah, well what do you mean about the whole 4 ohm to 2 ohm thing, like i said b4 i know nothing about car audio, but i found somebody on the site selling a jl 300/4 for 269
ohm is the measurement of resistence to current. Voicecoils of speakers especially car speakers are typically coiled by the manufacturer per speaker as either 4 or 2 ohms. Multiple speakers can be wired to numerous ways of ohm configurations. Basically ppl tend to change their ohm configurataion to get the most out of their respective amp. This is geared towards ppl with subwoofers. Interior speakers and 2 or 4 channel amps are usually not that concerned with ohms, but for example.. Image Dynamics chamelean component speaker sets come in 4 or 2 ohm configurations. If you already had a amp that could dish out 50watts per channel @ 4 ohms and 100watts per channel @ 2ohms .... a person might want to look into the 2 ohm set to utilize his current amp better.... yes distortion does increase as you lower impedence as well the amp runs a little hotter.. but hey we all like more juice in our veins.

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Originally posted by Crestgel on July 7th, 2003 at 05:10 PM

how about RockFord I have the same setup with Infinity's and Iím thinking about getting a ROCKFORD FOSGATE 801X runs about 300 on eBay is the JL 300 better?

A little off topic here. Wiring the amp and speakers, Running 4 AWG for the amp and 12 AWG for the speakers good enough?
12awg is overkill but perfectly fine. I'm running 14awg speaker wires with 200watts rms @ 4ohms with absolutely no problems..16awg would've also worked... but NOT that 1,000 gauge stock wire they use heheheh
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wow... I hope this guy was just joking... please please tell me he's joking and whatever he just said can be passed off as just jibberish...

please do explain what you mean by "distortion level", and why you cant find an amp that can deliver more than 85 rms watts due to this "increased" distortion level...

I look forward to this discussion

midnight.. the jl is a good amp.. if you dont mind having the same power for 4ohms as well as 2 ohms down the road. expensive.. but eBay has some great prices on it... prices I think should be what they are instead of those bloated ridiculous retail prices.



Well what i was gettin at was the buget side of things.. Yes there are amps out there that put out more then 85x4. but like it was said earlier will it be CLEAN POWER is my ???? So b4 you go bittin heads off just sit back in listen to what i am sayin thats all..
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Well what i was gettin at was the buget side of things.. Yes there are amps out there that put out more then 85x4. but like it was said earlier will it be CLEAN POWER is my ???? So b4 you go bittin heads off just sit back in listen to what i am sayin thats all..
I bite ppl's heads off who tend to mouth off vague information and tend to steer noobs with misinformation. Please do explain "Clean power"? And what values of distortion would constitute the meaning of "clean power"? Would 0.001%THD vs 0.1% THD be differentiated?

Every amp sold out there can run its rated power with a distortion level that's more than likely inaudible (below 1% THD). The differences among price ranges mostly come about from build quality, PC board layout, RMS power vs clipped power, and brandname. But to tell me that lower quality amps will have audible distorted power is just funny... lower quality amps will have lower build quality... perhaps burn out quicker, less lifetime on the pc boards, solder joints, transister life... or the most common issue with lower quality amps are they are easily clippable..which is audible as "distorted" sound.

Next time please just explain yourself a little more, so ppl who are new to car audio can understand your point and perhaps create themselves a foundation to further educate themselves on the concepts of speaker/amp/wire/etc terminology.
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I bite ppl's heads off who tend to mouth off vague information and tend to steer noobs with misinformation. Please do explain "Clean power"? And what values of distortion would constitute the meaning of "clean power"? Would 0.001%THD vs 0.1% THD be differentiated?

Every amp sold out there can run its rated power with a distortion level that's more than likely inaudible (below 1% THD). The differences among price ranges mostly come about from build quality, PC board layout, RMS power vs clipped power, and brandname. But to tell me that lower quality amps will have audible distorted power is just funny... lower quality amps will have lower build quality... perhaps burn out quicker, less lifetime on the pc boards, solder joints, transister life... or the most common issue with lower quality amps are they are easily clippable..which is audible as "distorted" sound.

Next time please just explain yourself a little more, so ppl who are new to car audio can understand your point and perhaps create themselves a foundation to further educate themselves on the concepts of speaker/amp/wire/etc terminology.
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I bite ppl's heads off who tend to mouth off vague information and tend to steer noobs with misinformation. Please do explain "Clean power"? And what values of distortion would constitute the meaning of "clean power"? Would 0.001%THD vs 0.1% THD be differentiated?

Every amp sold out there can run its rated power with a distortion level that's more than likely inaudible (below 1% THD). The differences among price ranges mostly come about from build quality, PC board layout, RMS power vs clipped power, and brandname. But to tell me that lower quality amps will have audible distorted power is just funny... lower quality amps will have lower build quality... perhaps burn out quicker, less lifetime on the pc boards, solder joints, transister life... or the most common issue with lower quality amps are they are easily clippable..which is audible as "distorted" sound.

Next time please just explain yourself a little more, so ppl who are new to car audio can understand your point and perhaps create themselves a foundation to further educate themselves on the concepts of speaker/amp/wire/etc terminology.

Well i will make this simple an sweet for everyone ok here we go, all i was sayin was that at different prices you get different quality an i think we all know that.. I was lookin at what he already had bought an was merly making a suggestion to him. rms an peak power are 2 different things remeber that so all i was going was tryin to match up his stuff that would fit the bill.. or he allready bought...
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