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Old March 12th, 2006, 11:55 PM   #1
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how is this carbon fiber part?

I started a lil carbon fiber project this weekend and wanted some feedback on how it looks or if u think i could do something better. this is my first carbon fiber part i made.

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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:03 AM   #2
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looks good
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me likey !!! Good job
Which kind of pain is that?
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:12 AM   #4
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i used 2x2 twill carbon fiber and clear epoxy then i used about 3 coats of clear coat. i'm practicing with the black carbon fiber on one set of engine cover till i like my own work then i will do my second engine cover set in silver carbon fiber.
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mmm, i want CF engine covers...id be interested to see how those come out. is it hard wiking with cf? looks pretty cool though. nice job
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:38 AM   #6
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i work with alot of fiberglass on aircrafts so carbon fiber wasnt that hard even though it was my first time. the 6 gen has alot of complex bends on the engine covers, even though it doesnt look that complex. the fabric has a hard time bending over the bends. So there are two ways you can do it.
1. make a mold of the engine covers and then lay carbon fiber in the mold is one way
2. also you can pre-cut out the cf and wrap the engine part that way, but you will be able to see the line where one part ends and the other begins.

it just depends what you like. yeah i plane to start my cf engine bay covers this weekend and ill keep ya'll posted on how it comes out.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #7
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why does the first picture looks like it isnt smooth and the second picture, its smooth?
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Old March 13th, 2006, 12:45 AM   #8
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the first pic was after i wet sanded it and the light angle. the last pic was after a couple of coats of clear coats
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hey that's sweet! i did my engine cover not long ago:

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=69580

Did you do the vaccum bag method? Also what clear coat did you use? I tried using a high temp engine enamel clear coat but it made the CF foggy, so I just polished the epoxy with floor wax.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:04 AM   #10
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^ you didnt wet sand yours huh, cuz it looks rough..
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I did wet sand... not sure why it didnt come out super smooth.

could be i didnt do a good job of sanding, not using an appropriate clear coat, not adding a thick enough epoxy layer for depth... i dunno. i have to try other things.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:09 AM   #12
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hmm, thats weird then..

cyn, mind giving a tutorial on how to wet sand, since i havent seen ne around here.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:38 AM   #13
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sure, all you need to do with wet sanding on cf is the following.

between 600-1000 grit sand paper
cup or spray bottle full of water.

first you get a thin layer of water on your carbon fiber part then take you sand paper and start to sand. you always have to keep it wet is you start wet sanding. after awhile dry your part and se where it is smoth and rough at. the wet it again and continue. i had sanded my part while watching Mr. and Mrs Smith. I was bored...

No Joe i didnt vaccum bag that part cause it was simply flat so i could make it with out doing that, but when i do the rest of the engine covers i will have to make a mold first then vaccum bag it for it to come out right.

the epoxy i used is alright i found a better one at selectproducts.com
that place has everything you will need for carbon fiber stuff. as far as clear coat i used dupli-color clear coat to see how it works. i have had no problems with fogging up yet.
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hmm, i used duplicolor clear coat too. boo on the fogginess I got. I'll have to give it another go.

thanks for the explaination, btw.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 01:56 AM   #15
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your project looks hot man. the 6gen is gonna be a pain in the a$$. only thing i can say is just apply a few more coats than u had before or go to an auto paint shop and have them use the same clear coat they use on cars. i know that shouldnt fog up.

yeah but the wet sanding is a pain just takes time. luckly i had a small, flat part this weekend and it was easy to get flat and smooth. but i hope to be where you are in a couple of weeks.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 06:05 AM   #16
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cf doors. i need cf doors. thx.
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it looks good
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Old March 13th, 2006, 08:48 AM   #18
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Looks good you should post a diy for CF. I worked with fiberglass before and I want to get into CF but the cost and potential for error is keeping me from doing it.

Keep up the good work.
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i used 2x2 twill carbon fiber and clear epoxy then i used about 3 coats of clear coat. i'm practicing with the black carbon fiber on one set of engine cover till i like my own work then i will do my second engine cover set in silver carbon fiber.
It looks good. But you will soon find out when you start to use the silver carbon fiber (Texilum) that is is much harder to work with because it being stiffer than black carbon fiber. Black carbon fiber is a sinch to lay. Silver does not want to lay around curves. It always pops back up or dosen't contour around curves. But good luck
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^^ I guess vaccum bagging method would be best for the Texilum, then. If anyone does that, make sure to take pics.
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Looks good, I wish I had the skills to do some CF work.
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^^ I guess vaccum bagging method would be best for the Texilum, then. If anyone does that, make sure to take pics.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 02:20 PM   #24
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i have not heard that about silver carbon fiber, so i guess i would have to use the vaccum bag method for this. Whenever it gets here i will try it out and post a DIY. thanks for all the feedback.
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That looks GREAT, especially for a first timer.



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Looks good, I wish I had the skills to do some CF work.
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Old March 13th, 2006, 06:31 PM   #26
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pffft... ghey. cf doors ftw.
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Pffft. CF panels all around ftw. Looks good, can't wait to see some progress on this.
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how could i do the vacuum bag method? like home style method. cuz ive been giving some thought to some cf pieces, like interior stuff tho. like the center console pieces and maybe the center dash piece.
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Old March 14th, 2006, 07:07 AM   #29
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Pffft. CF panels all around ftw. Looks good, can't wait to see some progress on this.
if i knew how to cleanly take off the rear quater panels and roof, i would. i know how to take my doors off though. lol
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i'm curious as to how to do the vacuum bag method too..

and for the resin and hardener, are you using the same amount as you would when working with fiberglass or is there a different amount to add?
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