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Old August 2nd, 2006, 01:57 AM   #1
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Arrow sanding/primer/paint... it chips??? why?

well i have a problem now.

i started to paint my headlights.........

so i primer it....

let primer dry....

wet sand primer with 600, then 2000 grit.......

let that dry...

paint it black....



THEN...............THEN.......

after a few days of drying i noticed that i can chip the paint off with my finger nail.....and pretty soon.......i can chip alot of it off... some parts i cant chip and some i can.......


what did i do wrong??? do i need more primering/sanding (did it only once)??? do i needa add MORE primer when i primer it???

any help would be great.

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why did you make it soooo complicated...i never had that problem...perhaps you should stop poking at it with you finger...
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 02:40 AM   #3
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why did you make it soooo complicated...i never had that problem...perhaps you should stop poking at it with you finger...
i noticed that it starts to chip anyways
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You can buy this thing called Bulldog Adhesion Promoter that helps primer and paint stick to stuff like headlights. It goes on clear. I saw a bottle at wal-mart for $6. Two coats of this and two coats of primer would have been good. Sand that and then add 2 or more coats of paint. This is how I painted my front bumper and my bumper is still together. I used premium urethane basecoat BTW.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 03:03 AM   #5
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I used premium urethane basecoat BTW.
is that a primer or the paint???

and where can i get it
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 04:35 AM   #6
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u should have sanded down the headlights before putting the primer. sanding the primer just make the surface smooth. thats why the paint is easy to come off cuz it not griping anything on the headlights surface
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what he said ^.....sand the headlights themselves a little bit
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 08:31 AM   #8
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you dont have to primer the housing for the headlight. just paint it.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 04:28 PM   #9
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imma get pixtures up. and you guys will see wt i mean,.....

i think i just gotta sand down the housing a bit more and then primer it...

the primer is coming along with the coat of paint...

.....///////edit

i think i needa sand down the housing itself to have it a lil more rouch so the primer can stick to is... then primer it....

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why did you make it soooo complicated...i never had that problem...perhaps you should stop poking at it with you finger...
hahahaha i was thinking of the same thing

lol..sand it down or at least rough it up a lil before you start primer/paint anything
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you need to sand first, then paint/primer, then I suggest you go clear coat it to protect it from scracthing and your grubby fingernails
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is that a primer or the paint???

and where can i get it
When I say basecoat, i meant the paint and when I say premium urethane, I meant both the primer and paint. I got my stuff at automotivetouchup.com. If you go there, you can paint your headlights the same color as your car. I too sanded down before I did anything. Good luck.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 06:31 PM   #13
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use red scotch-brite to sand it then paint. no need for primer. you can get red scotch-brite at wal-mart, pep-boys, etc. bull dog is a very good adhesion promoter but, i don't think you need it if you sand them right.
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Old August 2nd, 2006, 08:41 PM   #14
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why did you make it soooo complicated...i never had that problem...perhaps you should stop poking at it with you finger...
i was wondering the same thing....I didn't even have to primer mine i just sprayed multiple layers of fine coats and no problems at all
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i would just buy the projector lights off of ebay, they are pretty sweet
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i would just buy the projector lights off of ebay, they are pretty sweet
^^ Ignore that statement....... PLENTY of reasons why...

What kind of paint were you using?

Try this....

Sand
Primer
Sand the primer (for a smoother coating)
Paint
Wet-Sand (If you want a glossy finish)
Clear coat

I've done quite a few of my friend's headlights, and it came out extremely well, and VERY VERY glossy with the above method. BTW, i use krylon paint. I've moved to the Krylon Fusion paint, and it seems to work decently well. I lets me skip the primer stage. But for certain reasons, certain accord headlights refuse to let the paint stick to them... not sure why..
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For headlights? i don't think you have to go through all that trouble for paint. all i did was 2-3 coats of High Temp. White paint from pepboys. haven't had any chips or anything.... yet..
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some people like taking steps. the housing is smooth enough as it is, unless there is a slight bump that may bother someone. then the sanding comes in...

fyi, to get rid of paint already sprayed onto housing, a good way is to get this paint removal from home depot. its this acid thing that smells kinda orangy and if you touch it, it kinda burns your skin a little.. it comes out as foam. spray it and it will seperate the paint from housing and just hose it down. looks like it wrinkles. but you might have to do it a second time.. its an awesome product..

but beware, it will start to each into the amber strip so you might want to remove that before starting it.

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ugh, you dug yourself a hole james.
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for some reason the steps are necessary for certain accord's headlights

i did my friends, and no matter what I did, the paint DOES NOT STICk

so i had to sand, and primer etc...

it's one of the freak headlights...
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well, when i blackhoused my stockers, all i did was take the chrome bezle out put it on some newspaper, and paint it? i used glossy black engine enamel with ceramic. so maybe all that stuff made it stcik fine? but yea, i didnt even do a 1/4 of the work you did and they turned out fine.
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Old August 5th, 2006, 10:43 AM   #22
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well, when i blackhoused my stockers, all i did was take the chrome bezle out put it on some newspaper, and paint it? i used glossy black engine enamel with ceramic. so maybe all that stuff made it stcik fine? but yea, i didnt even do a 1/4 of the work you did and they turned out fine.
i did the same exact thing. just took it off. took the seperate housing piece only and sprayed it with white high temp. paint and then i put it back on. wonder why it's hard for others.
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