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Old July 28th, 2009, 12:13 PM   #1
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Reasons why you may NOT want to lower your car

So, I wrote this article awhile ago to put up on my Facebook, but I think putting it on here would be more beneficial.

Reasons why you should NOT lower your car

I've been driving on a "lowered" car for 3 out of the 4 years I've driven - and thus far, driving a lowered car is not something new for me.

Now, it seems all the warnings of being lowered has converged on me, so I will impart my knowledge and experience to you all who are looking to lower your car in the future:

Reason #1 - Tires


Explanation: Lowering your car adversely can cause what is known as negative camber. Negative camber is when your wheels are tilted inward toward the inside of your wheel well. This will cause a smaller contact patch of your tires to the ground, thus the worn out pattern of the tire on the inside rather than outside. Expect to replace tires more often than you usually would - especially if your camber is more than negative 1*.

Solution: Get an alignment to put your toe back to OEM specs and get a camber kit and return your camber settings back within OEM spec - if you are not lowering your car much (a mild drop) your stock suspension settings should be able to be adjusted back into OEM spec. These options will ensure that your tires will wear out in a timely manner and readjusting camber will assure that the tire will not only be used on the inside area

Reason #2 - Reliability


Explanation: Often...actually I should say always, aftermarket suspension will not be as reliable as the OEM suspension components. OEM suspension (and everything) were specifically researched and studied for that particular car, whereas aftermarket parts are researched in bulk and may cross-fit different vehicular applications. Warranty on an aftermarket part may only last a year or two - in which was my case. These are Ksport Coilovers. MPSR: $1200. These aren't ebay brand coil-sleeves or ebay brand no name brand coilovers. They blew out on me recently - and caused this ugliness. Switching out your OEM suspension for aftermarket parts will always result in lower quality (less stringent fitament etc) and almost always fail earlier than your OEM suspension component.

Solution: If you really want to lower your car, make sure you get a name brand set of springs and shocks or coilovers. You could also check to see if they have a lifetime warranty - those will benefit you the most in the long run.

Reason #3 - Difficulty getting in and out of parking lots, over speedbumps, onto driveways; underside of car is damaged


Explanation: Often when you lower your car, if you drive it like you normally do, you will be more prone to hitting (and if low enough breaking) your bumper, scraping the underside of your car, exhaust, or other components of your car.


Solution: Take it SLOW and at an angle - you might just look like this
TRIPOD!


Reason #4 - CV Boot damage
Explanation: Lowering your car alters the center of gravity (changing the stress points of where strain is put on your car) and it also shortens the life of your (FWD) vehicle known as your CV boots. CV boots converter power from your transmission to your wheels. There is a bar (driveshaft) connected to a balljoint (knuckle) which in turn connects to your wheel hub, brake assembly etc. That balljoint part is covered in a rubber boot known as a CV boot. Inside this completely sealed boot, the driveshaft and balljoint interact with each other to smoothly convert power from the transmission to the wheels. Over a few thousand miles, your suspension will cause this part of the car to inevitably break down (via seal leak or complete rip). Lowering your car will cause extra strain on this part of the car and cause it to wear down pre-maturely.
Solution: None, it just happens. CV boots are made to wear out and get replaced. Make sure you check your boots every so often so when they do show signs of failure, you get them replaced before you have to get the boots and knuckles replaced ($50 replacement VS. $400 replacement).

But, even with all the troubles and problems...

its still not enough to get me to raise my car back to "stock height"


Feel free to add onto this article
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Old July 28th, 2009, 12:24 PM   #2
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Alright fine...I'll put my WW kit on when I get it. Everytime I see your car with the kit on it...I tell myself I have to have one. Now if I could only get the rest of it from calvinator...

I can attest to #1. I just spent close to $400 on new tires at the beginning of the summer and then $330 a few days ago on another new set. I have a camber kit up front now so hopefully I won't be buying tires for a long time. My camber with the stock adjustment equipment was still under -2*.

#3...my ish is all banged up. When I got my custom exhaust, I had them purposely hang it a little higher than the stock piping was hung. I've banged up the downpipe a lot...and my jack points behind the front wheels are gone...like yours. But you do learn how to think quick and also how to avoid speedbumps at all costs when going through a parking lot. I've actually parked in a different parking lot than the establishment I was meaning to go to just because they had speedbumps...lol
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Pros: Looks better, handles better, feels more connected to the road, an excuse not to carry too many passengers, lol.

Cons: scraped lip, more rattles, once you're lowered you'll want to go even lower. lol
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:14 PM   #5
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Great thread.

Amen to the last statement.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #6
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You get made fun of by the entire community when they see your lowered car fails.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:41 PM   #7
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Hmmm I swear I totally thought you had a thread on this already. That info looks soo familiar..


Great write up though.
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You get made fun of by the entire community when they see your lowered car fails.
i got made fun of kuz i put it in the wrong section and you told the mods NOT TO MOVE IT
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:44 PM   #9
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What you know about 3 wheelin' son ?!

Amen, Daniel. Especially the last sentence
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:46 PM   #10
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Great thread.
It's always been a misunderstanding that camber kills tires. It does wear faster, but not to the extent that toe angle does.
An alignment and proper toe angle should solve your tire wear problems after a drop.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:50 PM   #11
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I'm lowered on Eibach Sportlines, riding on Illuminas for 6 years now. Haven't experienced any of the problems you listed.


It's you slammers that have the issues above.
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Old July 28th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #12
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i think this is strickly for people who REALLY REALLY dump their car and not people who have their car lower inch or 2.. cars which are lowered more thn 3 inches and such usually go thru a lot of wear and tear like mine. Mine is super low but i go thru tires once a year or so..
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tripodin' FTW
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didnt u post this before?
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http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=153086

you posted this thread exactly one year ago...LOL
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http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=153086

you posted this thread exactly one year ago...LOL
LMAO, daniel you fail again?
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http://v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=153086

you posted this thread exactly one year ago...LOL
Yes! That's where I saw it. I knew it!
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LMAO, daniel you fail again?
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you posted this thread exactly one year ago...LOL
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Yes! That's where I saw it. I knew it!
oh well HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA failing is the new cool thing to do
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wow exactly 1yr ago funny

#3 is getting me now.. my intercooler piping is gonna bust one day!!!
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Red02AccordV6_2, amazing. Inspiration for mine.

I plan on lowering 1.5" with Pro-Kits. I don't think any of this will attest to me besides the tire situation.
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hahaha good article...
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oh well HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA failing is the new cool thing to do
NOBODY CLOSE/LOCK THIS THREAD EITHER, daniel can be reminded of his fail on a regular basis :P
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hahaha omg
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how long did you have the ksports before they blew?

also it aint three wheeling unless you are moving fast... tripoding is weak. :-p
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Dan I was tripping out because I thought you had posted this a while back but all the dates were from today!

Freaking guy!



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ban or we can punish him by relocating this to an unrelated forum section
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The real reason you shouldn't lower your car is that when people try to put your car on a flatbed towtruck it'll **** up your fresh custom Mugen lip with the holes filled in.



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