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Old November 25th, 2009, 04:35 AM   #1
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if we can keep this to a minimal flame and just knowledgable answers please


when i changed my suspension from H&R/KYB to full tein SSp coil over, i went from silent, slightly bouncy ride. to noisy, stiff as a sob ride.


stiff i dont care about, edfc helps..

ever since. my car sits higher just to keep the tension on the springs when it is off the ground. to "prevent" that rattling sound.

What went into the car when i did the suspention was

New lower control arms (oem)
new lower ball joints (oem)
ingalls front/rear camber kits
tein ssp coil overs
tein edfc.
new inner/outer tie rods

people all see my wheel well gap now compaired to when i was rocking the H&R/KYB

my problem is, it still clunks over little bumps, and i mean little. NYC streets, where its slightly un-even. Now i don't know if its the springs rattling, which i fear it cant be. simply because the shock isnt expanding enough over these little bumps to release tension on the spring.

Anyone ever have problems with Ingalls camber kit, possibly hitting the strut tower/inner fender apron?


I bought tein's helper springs to maybe see if it would help, and next thing is upgrading my sway bars. but im tried of playin trial and error. im spending too much money.. Thanks in advance
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Old November 25th, 2009, 08:29 AM   #2
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is the ingalls kit the new control arm or just the balljoint?
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Old November 25th, 2009, 08:41 AM   #3
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did you leave any pre-load on the springs, are did you dump it all the way down?

the ingall fronts are known to hit under the fender when you're dumped.
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is the ingalls kit the new control arm or just the balljoint?
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the ingall fronts are known to hit under the fender when you're dumped.


1st thing it pops in my mind when i read "ingalls front/rear camber kits".
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Old November 25th, 2009, 10:24 AM   #5
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Old November 25th, 2009, 12:33 PM   #6
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Are there any control arm camber kits that WON'T hit the inside of the fender? I have the ingalls and they knock when I hit bumps.
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Are there any control arm camber kits that WON'T hit the inside of the fender? I have the ingalls and they knock when I hit bumps.
that must be really annoying
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My control arm camber kits don't hit as much as the ball joint ones.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 12:58 PM   #9
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I have the same problem......
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This is why I think dropped is better than slammed. I'm so glad I didn't try to slam my ride.

2 finger front + 1 finger rear = win

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Old November 25th, 2009, 01:20 PM   #11
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This is why I think dropped is better than slammed. I'm so glad I didn't try to slam my ride.

2 finger front + 1 finger rear = win

+1 on that
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This is why I think dropped is better than slammed. I'm so glad I didn't try to slam my ride.

2 finger front + 1 finger rear = win

once you go slammed you can't never go back. lol

to the op, like kiet said it is the front ingalls kit. i installed that and it hit so i took it off. another option would be to cut a hole where the top of the ball joint hits the fender well if that is the problem.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 01:46 PM   #13
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This is why I think dropped is better than slammed. I'm so glad I didn't try to slam my ride.

2 finger front + 1 finger rear = win

That's what seperates boys from men
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That's what seperates boys from men
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Old November 25th, 2009, 02:41 PM   #15
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That's what seperates boys from men
Agreed. Men enjoy practicality and improved looks while boys cry about clunking noise, bottoming out, and dodging pot holes
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noise free on tein ss. all the way down as well.
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noise free on tein ss. all the way down as well.
all the way down on tein ss as well and noise free.
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That what separate rich from poor.

bend up subframe, j-pipes, and jack points = not fun to fix.
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^^^^ word. Slammed suspension in the NYC FTL. I have like 1-2 finger gap on my Tein basics and clunk slightly on sharp bumps.
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^^^^ word. Slammed suspension in the NYC FTL. I have like 1-2 finger gap on my Tein basics and clunk slightly on sharp bumps.
Oh yea, didn't think of that. I live in NY too.
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^^^^ word. Slammed suspension in the NYC FTL. I have like 1-2 finger gap on my Tein basics and clunk slightly on sharp bumps.
Sunny Cali ...

Oh and i'm not rich no way near that i haven't moded my accord in over a year jobless i need to get that progress swaybar and a H22 swap then i'm good...
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Old November 25th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #22
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the ball joint cambers kits give you less space between the top of the uca and the strut tower. i remember on my old accord, which was about the same height youre at now mike, it would hit more often then it did before i had it installed. and now, with no camber kit, my car barely hits now, tho id hate to see what itd be like with one haha. if the clunking you hear is from the front, id say that the camber kit could be a possibility.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #23
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one thing i've noticed with the SSP is that the top of the spring doesnt sit tight with the tophat, meaning there's lateral movement of the spring so i have a feeling its the inner portion of the spring slapping the part of the top hat and protrudes down.

i tried asking Tein but they dont have a clue what im talking about. i figure i'll just ghetto fix it myself with a little bit of heavy duty rubber tape or something to prevent the direct contact between spring and metal top hat. i have a feeling people with OEM top hats dont have that much of an issue because the OEM top hat holds the spring pretty well from what i remember.
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Old November 25th, 2009, 07:20 PM   #24
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i never said anything about dumping my car, i live in Yonkers.. prob THE WORST streets in ny.. i just want to get rid of the wheel well gap i have with a $1400 setup and never had with a $135 set up.
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Old November 26th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #25
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what front camber kits DONT hit the fender apron lol
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Just ditch the front camber kit if you don't want noise. I've never, in 5 years, ran camber kits and not once have I ever noticed any unusual wear.. and I am low low.
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Old November 26th, 2009, 03:03 PM   #27
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its a very very strong possibility lol
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so i swap wheels with a friend of mine since my tires are 1239102 times better then his and he uses his car in winter.

i look up at the control arm and see the problem finally


knocking into the apron


im gona hammer that part in, i dont feel like buying new uca's
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Old December 13th, 2009, 11:12 AM   #29
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That what separate rich from poor.

bend up subframe, j-pipes, and jack points = not fun to fix.
My jack points are folded...but they still function properly. My J pipe is fine...maybe some minor scuffs. My subframe is scuffed but there's no real damage to it.

And the 2 finger front + 1 finger back? Why not level it out at least?
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