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Old July 2nd, 2005, 01:38 PM   #1
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jus got my blackhousing headlights in

Me and a friend just installed my blackhousing headlights on my car. Took us about 50 minutes, a flat head, phillips, and 10mm socket. The longest part was taking off the front bumper, once that came off it only took like 10 minutes to swith the headlights out. I will get some pics up once I get back to my house if it isnt still pouring raining


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Old July 3rd, 2005, 12:40 AM   #2
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looks good, where'd you buy them? and how is the light output on those?
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 01:31 AM   #3
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i dunno why everyone asks about the light output - they are the exact same reflector design as stock (i'm almost positive) - nothing is really changed...
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 02:29 AM   #4
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yeah same as stock, just black housed with clear reflector
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 09:12 PM   #5
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I had DIY blackohouse head lights on my 5th gen sedan, I'm not sure i am sold on the look for the 7th gen. stock looks pretty good to me.
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 09:18 PM   #6
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i wish red came with black interior. looks great!
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Old July 4th, 2005, 02:20 AM   #7
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Nice. Pictures dont do them justice, with the glare, they look far better, and better flowing. Pics eliminate the real world glare, and make them look like such a sharp contrast.
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Old July 4th, 2005, 10:21 AM   #8
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looks good man, i got them on my blue coupe-- clear blinkers all the wya
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Old July 4th, 2005, 11:59 AM   #9
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Do these have the same size bulbs as oem? 9006
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Old July 4th, 2005, 10:09 PM   #10
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i would think theyre the exact same as oem, just with a black bezel and a white reflector. i know that the ones for my gen are the same, and should be, and i just DIY'd mine
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Old July 5th, 2005, 05:13 PM   #11
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Do these have the same size bulbs as oem? 9006
Yes, all OEM sizes with them. And sickspeed is right, get some clear blinkers, it looks nice. I have silverstar's and some PIAA hyperwhite blinkers. Good setup, and cheap.
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Old July 5th, 2005, 10:14 PM   #12
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where do u guys get them from...

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Old July 5th, 2005, 10:24 PM   #13
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Silverstars you can get at walmart/autozone/pepboys.
The turn signals you can get here...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=36476
Or once this expires, just go ebay and our bulb size for turn signals is 1157, just type "1157 white" and you get a ton.
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i highly recommend to stay AWAY from silverstars. you might get lucky once in a while and get a good pair, but 75% of the feedback ive heard are consistent with my personal experience: they STINK! light output is okay, lumens are supposedly up to par with standard halogens, but these bulbs last only a few months. ive had three different sets on three different cars, and they all went within 6 months of moderate use. and yes, i was careful not to jolt them around too much, nor did i ever touch the glass with bare hands. dont know of any other alternatives to the silverstar, but i personally like the 9005 65w conversion for my lows.
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Old July 6th, 2005, 08:23 AM   #15
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i highly recommend to stay AWAY from silverstars. you might get lucky once in a while and get a good pair, but 75% of the feedback ive heard are consistent with my personal experience: they STINK! light output is okay, lumens are supposedly up to par with standard halogens, but these bulbs last only a few months. ive had three different sets on three different cars, and they all went within 6 months of moderate use. and yes, i was careful not to jolt them around too much, nor did i ever touch the glass with bare hands. dont know of any other alternatives to the silverstar, but i personally like the 9005 65w conversion for my lows.

Could you actually see a difference with the 9005 conversion? I have been considering doing this but no one has been able to share if it makes an improvement. I assume there have been no issues with burning wires?
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Old July 6th, 2005, 09:27 AM   #16
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^^

I haven't done the conversion on my 7th gen yet, but on my 5th gen, there was a clear difference.

9006 rated at 1000 lumens (I believe)
9005 rated at 1700 lumens (again, off the top of my head).

70% more light, without increased draw in power. Never had a bulb blow out, unlike the silverstars, and they're cheaper to boot ($5 per bulb)
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Old July 6th, 2005, 10:16 AM   #17
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70% more light, without increased draw in power.
Not true..... for more light output, you're gonna consume more power (assuming the same type of bulb, incandescent in this case).

The 9006's are 51 watt bulbs, and the 9005 are 60 watt bulbs...... or about 18% higher power usage. (Note that the actual wattage may vary a little between different brands, but they're pretty close to those numbers.)
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i highly recommend to stay AWAY from silverstars. you might get lucky once in a while and get a good pair, but 75% of the feedback ive heard are consistent with my personal experience: they STINK! light output is okay, lumens are supposedly up to par with standard halogens, but these bulbs last only a few months. ive had three different sets on three different cars, and they all went within 6 months of moderate use. and yes, i was careful not to jolt them around too much, nor did i ever touch the glass with bare hands. dont know of any other alternatives to the silverstar, but i personally like the 9005 65w conversion for my lows.

light conversion?? care to explain...
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Old July 8th, 2005, 11:39 AM   #19
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Yes, all OEM sizes with them. And sickspeed is right, get some clear blinkers, it looks nice. I have silverstar's and some PIAA hyperwhite blinkers. Good setup, and cheap.
so I could just plug my 9006 hid kit right in if I wanted
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Old July 8th, 2005, 05:49 PM   #20
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Well, You would probably have to retrofit the housing, and get the shrouds put in. But I'm not exactly sure what a 9006 HID kit is? Dont know of any pnp HID systems.
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Old July 8th, 2005, 09:16 PM   #21
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Could you actually see a difference with the 9005 conversion? I have been considering doing this but no one has been able to share if it makes an improvement. I assume there have been no issues with burning wires?
yes! as of right now, i still have 9005 on one side, and 9006 on the other. (i only did the conversion for the right side, which is 10x quicker to access ;D it is quite a bit brighter, although it wouldnt catch your attention unless you have a trained eye.

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9006 rated at 1000 lumens (I believe)
9005 rated at 1700 lumens (again, off the top of my head).
yea, those are the figures that I have known, but this is misleading! you'd THINK that because the 65w 9005 puts out 70% more lumens, it would appear 70% brighter. NOT the case. to me, the 9005 appears about 10% brigher than the 51w 9006, and also a bit whiter as well.

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light conversion?? care to explain...
this is the most common DIY site that has been circulated: http://www.bmwe34.net/E34main/Upgrade/More_light.htm
hope that helps. btw, you dont need to modify the outside lip, only the tracks on the inside of the socket. pm if you have questions

i personaly dislike the pap HID kits quite a bit. imho, theyre cheap, poorly built, and have sub-par light output and beam patterns, and often cause undue glare. i would save up until you have money for a retrofit.

if i have time later tonight, ill take pics of my cock-eyed headlights and let you all be the judge. a picture is worth 1000 words ;D
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Old July 10th, 2005, 01:47 AM   #22
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here we go:


and if you cant tell which side is the retro, then obviously its not worth it for you!

interestingly enough, the difference is much more noticeable on the road, rather than in front of a wall. imho, the retro is still worth it
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Old July 11th, 2005, 10:30 AM   #23
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looks good, where'd you buy them? and how is the light output on those?
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