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Old October 19th, 2003, 04:40 PM   #1
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Best Place to lift w/ Floor Jack

Could someone please tell me where is the best place to lift a 7th gen with floor jack, so I can put it on jack stands for both the front and the rear?

I couldn't find this information with a search and did not see a great spot with my initial look with a flashlight under the car.

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Like most cars, use the jack/stands on the frame of the underbody. There should be a connecting point on the front/rear of your car where you can use the hydraulic jack as a contact point.
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Old October 19th, 2003, 05:58 PM   #3
 
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This should answer all your questions...
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Old October 20th, 2003, 09:17 AM   #4
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This should answer all your questions...
Doh! I just got owened by the manual; didn't I? I looked at the changing a tire section, but I didn't think they would have a lifting section.

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confuse on floor jack page,
where do i put the jack stand? is one jack [email protected] A or B- enough to hold the car up?

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Old October 20th, 2003, 02:48 PM   #6
 
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confuse on floor jack page,
where do i put the jack stand? is one jack [email protected] A or B- enough to hold the car up?

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Yes it would be it you wanted to change out both front or rear tires at once. I suggest not using the stock jack stand that came with your car for working under the car (changing oil, etc).



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using a round jack to jack up the front is not recommend IMO.

from personal experience, i used it and the car slipped off the jack, causing the jack to go into the engine bay and bust my radiator. $500 damage....

but thats like the only way to jack the front up, so i guess you gotta do it..lol
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Old October 31st, 2003, 07:33 PM   #8
 
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floor jack and stands

I have never put my car up on jack stands before, so here's my question. I want to start changing my own oil and tire rotations. I am going to buy a floor jack and 4 jack stands.

Am I suppose to use the floor jack and lift the front first and then place one jack stand on each side of the car, and then lift the rear and then place the other 2 stands back there?

I would think that once I lifted the front and placed the 2 jack stands on the front, that the car would not be level while resting on the jack stands. It wouldn't be level until the rear was lifted and placed on jack stands. Is that right?

I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear or not. Maybe someone who has actually lifted our Accord on 4 jack stands can give us specific instructions. The manual is not fully clear to me.

I don't claim to be a mechanic, but I do want to be carefull before I go attempting this. Thanx!
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Old November 1st, 2003, 07:48 AM   #9
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it's ok for you car to be "unlevel". It won't hurt anything. Just make sure the jack stands are level and that they will be out of your way when your under the car. Go play with it and you'll learn... you won't hurt anything unless you put the jack stand somewhere other than the frame.

If you are changing your oil, you only need 2 jack stands. But, if you are rotating your tires, then you would need 4.
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[B]Am I suppose to use the floor jack and lift the front first and then place one jack stand on each side of the car, and then lift the rear and then place the other 2 stands back there?
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Yes, that's how you lift the car if you want all 4 tires off the ground. Always make sure the emergency brake is on before you lift the front of the car - you don't want it rolling backwards. Also, let the jack down slowly so the car can settle into the jackstands.

Just as a heads up, you will have to get the car pretty high to slide the jackstands under. Take it slow & everything will go ok.

FYI, my 3 ton jack stands need to be up 3 notches for all 4 tires come off easily.
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Sorry to bring back the dead....

The below 2 pics, is the first one the point that tells you thats where the point is for the jack stand and the 2nd picture where u actually put the jack/stand?




Thxs in advance, sorry I just a tad slow so not sure how to jack car up.
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As far as jacking up the entire rear of the car, how close to the rear tow hook do you put the floor jack cradle? I started to jack up the rear end, and it looked like the spare tire well was beginning to "cave in". Has anyone actually jacked up the whole rear end by jacking up on the tow hook? Did you experience anything like I'm describing? Any other hints?
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Ya, im not alone at least... I would not use the back hook, as its so hollow I think it would cave in.... I want to know where the darn jack and stand points are on the side in front of tires... I have my sway bar chillin waiting and I wana get it on so bad but cant jack the car up cuz im a dumb azz and dont know how...


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Think I found where to put jack. On the first picture, and then the stand can go next to it or behind on the lift hole spots.

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As far as jacking up the entire rear of the car, how close to the rear tow hook do you put the floor jack cradle?
Just look at the pic I posted months ago - It CLEARLY shows that you jack the rear right on the hook.

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I have my sway bar chillin waiting and I wana get it on so bad but cant jack the car up cuz im a dumb azz and dont know how
Did you try SEARCH for info??? FYI, you should NOT change the rear bar on jacks (unless you want endlink probs) Just back the car up on ramps so you can get under it easier - or just crawl under it without ramps. It only takes about 20 minutes.

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Well I did it, took me more then 20 min, and you have to put on stands or how you get bar out w/out tire off?

Its all off and good, I tightened it in the air, and then again once I had on ground... Drove it around all seems good...

Thxs for help.
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and you have to put on stands or how you get bar out w/out tire off?
Once everything is disconnected just slide one end of the bar forward & the other back around the exhaust pipe - then pull the bar back and out.

Sometimes you need to think before you bust a$$ and do more work than needed
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Old April 8th, 2004, 07:13 AM   #17
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Just look at the pic I posted months ago - It CLEARLY shows that you jack the rear right on the hook.
I saw that. I just didn't like what it did when I tried it, and was wondering if anybody else had any thoughts on it. Imo, it just isn't strong enough to use it like they show.

Have you jacked up the rear of the car that way? What was your experience with it?
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Old April 8th, 2004, 07:37 AM   #18
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Have you jacked up the rear of the car that way? What was your experience with it?
I jacked up the rear as high as my floor jack would go, but it wasn't high enough to fully get the tires off the ground. I need to buy a new that extends higher. For what its worth, I didn't notice any problems.
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Have you jacked up the rear of the car that way? What was your experience with it?
I've jacked my car numerous times this way with NO problems.
The hook goes into the jack cradle. I've had NO flex in the spare tire floor pan.

FYI, all hitches use a mount bolt thru this hook. If it can take the stress of towing, it can handle the small jacking load.
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I've jacked my car numerous times this way with NO problems.
The hook goes into the jack cradle. I've had NO flex in the spare tire floor pan.

FYI, all hitches use a mount bolt thru this hook. If it can take the stress of towing, it can handle the small jacking load.
Cool. Thanks for the reply.

Like I said, the time I did try it, the spare tire well seemed to be flexing up on me as I was jacking, so I decided I must have been doing something wrong, and gave up on it. I'll try it again soon and see what happens. Maybe I was just being too paranoid.
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My ghetto jack doesn't even have enough lift to touch the rear towing hook! I have to do one side at a time!
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Put the jack on a 2 x 8, or two of them....... to raise it up some.

Or get a real floor jack.
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Wow that information telling you to jack up the rear of the car using the bottom of the trunk is just wrong. The tow hook is strong enough for something to pull backwards on it (ie a backwards force) but pushing up on it is just not right. Imagine the trunk being a cardboard box if you will, you can pull backwards on the bottom of the box, but you shouldn't just push up, it'll will definitely start bending.




The safest way to jack up the entire jack is to look for the part of the unibody that is right next to the rear sway bar. Get a 2x4 piece of wood that is just as long as that part of the unibody and use a jack that has a removeable cradle with a flat square face underneath. I'm using a 3ton huge jack from costco works great. You need the wood because that thing will bend if you just jack right on it. I know from experience.

For the front, there's actually an arrow in the dust guard that points to the front location.

Jack stands always go on the stock scissor jack locations. Do NOT put the car on 4 jack stands if you are going to work underneath it. Either support the front OR the back with jack stands. Choke the wheels that are still on the ground.

If you're trying to rotate the tires, the easiest way is to life up one side (driver's or passenger's) of the car from the front stock scissor jack point with a jack that has a big flat jack face. Then switch front and back tires. No need for jackstands you're not getting under the car.
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Wow that information telling you to jack up the rear of the car using the bottom of the trunk is just wrong.
Well, per post #3 (which looks like a service manual page), that is the way Honda itself recommends. Seems strange!?
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I've used the rear hook on all 3 of my Honda's, but only with a hydraulic floor jack, not the tire jack the car came with. Never had a problem and all 3 manuals stated that was the way to do it. Even the service manual states it as well. Use the rear hook to jack and then place your supports where the tire jack is supposed to go. Done.

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Well, per post #3 (which looks like a service manual page), that is the way Honda itself recommends.


As long as you follow the proper procedures, using the rear tow hook is just as safe for the car as any of the other jack points.



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Wow that information telling you to jack up the rear of the car using the bottom of the trunk is just wrong. The tow hook is strong enough for something to pull backwards on it (ie a backwards force) but pushing up on it is just not right. Imagine the trunk being a cardboard box if you will, you can pull backwards on the bottom of the box, but you shouldn't just push up, it'll will definitely start bending.
The rear tow hook IS the recommended rear jack point by Honda. It is the same on the Civics.

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The safest way to jack up the entire jack is to look for the part of the unibody that is right next to the rear sway bar... You need the wood because that thing will bend if you just jack right on it. I know from experience.
If that area you're recommending to lift bends, it should tell you that you're jacking the wrong point of the underbody from the start. You dont need any wood to use the rear tow hook as the jacking point since that area is heavily reinforced and load-dispersion is built into that area.
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My rear two hook got bent in quite a bit from an accident. I wonder if I should still use it to jack up the rea ...
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My friend always used the front subframe of his old '89 Prelude as the jacking point. It would make me cringe every time he jacked up his car that way. He tried to jack up my old Accord that way one time to change the oil and I said "Hell no!" I just don't think the front subframe was designed to handle that kind of stress.

I never thought of using the rear tow hook before though. It's too bad I didn't know about that when I had my old Accord. I always wanted to remove the mufflers on that car just for ****s and giggles (and I never got to, darn it), and jacking at that point would've made it easier to get to the bolts.
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Wow that information telling you to jack up the rear of the car using the bottom of the trunk is just wrong. The tow hook is strong enough for something to pull backwards on it (ie a backwards force) but pushing up on it is just not right. Imagine the trunk being a cardboard box if you will, you can pull backwards on the bottom of the box, but you shouldn't just push up, it'll will definitely start bending.




The safest way to jack up the entire jack is to look for the part of the unibody that is right next to the rear sway bar. Get a 2x4 piece of wood that is just as long as that part of the unibody and use a jack that has a removeable cradle with a flat square face underneath. I'm using a 3ton huge jack from costco works great. You need the wood because that thing will bend if you just jack right on it. I know from experience.

For the front, there's actually an arrow in the dust guard that points to the front location.

Jack stands always go on the stock scissor jack locations. Do NOT put the car on 4 jack stands if you are going to work underneath it. Either support the front OR the back with jack stands. Choke the wheels that are still on the ground.

If you're trying to rotate the tires, the easiest way is to life up one side (driver's or passenger's) of the car from the front stock scissor jack point with a jack that has a big flat jack face. Then switch front and back tires. No need for jackstands you're not getting under the car.
Is there a safety reason why you don't want suspend the whole car on 4 jackstands?
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