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Old April 12th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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Front "real" tourqe dampener teaser....

A little someting extra I put in Kschwiggy's car today with a new J35....



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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:13 PM   #2
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wow, that is interesting paul. is that a mini shock absorber? cant wait to see how it works, but dont you think it would have worked better in the rear? im thinking the movement of the engine will pull it up, rather than compress it.
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wow nice
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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #4
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wow, that is interesting paul. is that a mini shock absorber? cant wait to see how it works, but dont you think it would have worked better in the rear? im thinking the movement of the engine will pull it up, rather than compress it.
It should help when closing the throttle sharply
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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #5
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so that other torque dampener that came out earlier was fake?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:05 PM   #6
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wow, that is interesting paul. is that a mini shock absorber? cant wait to see how it works, but dont you think it would have worked better in the rear? im thinking the movement of the engine will pull it up, rather than compress it.
Actually next will be a twin for the rear, and yes it is a real dampener, not a bunch of rubber busings.
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very nice.. looks like it came for the factory like that!
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #8
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It should help when closing the throttle sharply
Actualy it should help in both directons, but I am also working on one for the rear as well, unlike the NRG "dampener which is really a bunch of rubber bushings, this is a actual fluid filled shock absorber.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:11 PM   #9
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very nice.. looks like it came for the factory like that!
Well, part of it is from the Honda factory, was just never meant for our cars until now.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:13 PM   #10
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Actualy it should help in both directons, but I am also working on one for the rear as well, unlike the NRG "dampener which is really a bunch of rubber bushings, this is a actual fluid filled shock absorber.
So your using the CLS damper then? Seems like it to me.


What I find interesting is that the acurazine guys are replacing theirs with NRG dampers. The shock itself is at least $70 and it only loks big and useful in the pics due to its dust cover.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #11
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So your using the CLS damper then? Seems like it to me.


What I find interesting is that the acurazine guys are replacing theirs with NRG dampers. The shock itself is at least $70 and it only loks big and useful in the pics due to its dust cover.
You are right in that one of the parts is from the CL-S, the rest.....
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You are right in that one of the parts is from the CL-S, the rest.....
Well your top bracket is the same, you made the bottom on since thats pretty much the only way its going to bolt down to the subframe. So what your saying then is that its not the same shock the stock 6spd CLS uses?
Did you use teh new TL-S shock?

Just did some cross referencing most of the CLS and TL-S shock parts are the same, shck looks a little different but the cover and washers are the same.

What would be sweet if that shock had adjustable dampening
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:37 PM   #13
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ooh i want one for my v6
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Old April 12th, 2008, 11:38 PM   #14
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that's pretty cool!

looks like the entire assembly is the same, the lower bracket just rotated and bolted to a peice of angle iron attached to the engine mount

NVA-AV6 it's things like this that make me look forward to your threads !
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Old April 13th, 2008, 01:31 AM   #15
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group buy? comparisons to show that its better than the nrg?
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Old April 13th, 2008, 04:10 AM   #16
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On my TL 6 speed the holes aren't tapped like my CL 6 speed. Did you have to drill and tap the holes on the tranny?
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Old April 13th, 2008, 04:42 AM   #17
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Yes, you have to drill and tap the three holes in the tranny, nice of honda to leave them in the casting though.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 04:56 AM   #18
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Well your top bracket is the same, you made the bottom on since thats pretty much the only way its going to bolt down to the subframe. So what your saying then is that its not the same shock the stock 6spd CLS uses?
Did you use teh new TL-S shock?

Just did some cross referencing most of the CLS and TL-S shock parts are the same, shck looks a little different but the cover and washers are the same.

What would be sweet if that shock had adjustable dampening
Yes it would
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Old April 13th, 2008, 08:50 AM   #19
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Actually next will be a twin for the rear, and yes it is a real dampener, not a bunch of rubber busings.
well, if your saying a true dampener should be liqiud filled, then i guess NRG or even ingalls for that matter isnt a "true" one, BUT the NRG comes with polyurethane bushings, not just rubber ones and is alot more aggressive than any gas filled unit would be IMO. the sole purpose of the NRG was to help eliminate some of the wheel hop, not to add comfort between shifts. like nick said above, alot of the 6spd TL guys are ditching the stock gas damper for the NRG, with night and day results.


heres a pic of the TL oem damper, which only came on the 04-06 TL 6 spd's. thats where they got the idea in locating the NRG damper w/ custom bracket. i guess they figured if acura thought it was in a good place, they'd keep it there, since thats where the majority of engine torque is transferred too.

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Old April 13th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #20
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another smalser work of art..... nice. congrats Kai.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 09:06 PM   #21
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so far all i can really say about it is there is little to no cabin vibration while sitting at idle. since the j35 is new and is still in the initial break in period I havent tried any launches or gone hard on the throttle.. so I wont have feedback on that for a little while. at the moment I still have the NRG damper on my car as well but will we changing to the rear damper at some point. but this damper fit so well and with the custom bracket paul made it looks like it was meant to be there. seans nrg damper was a great product as well but this may be the next step up.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #22
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you know im gonna be wanting one paul! and one for the rear when you get that done as well! We still have time so no rush for me.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 03:55 AM   #23
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^ Already figured, but it is nice having Kai right here with his auto crossing as a test, I will also be putting them in mine as part of my my 6sp swap here soon, I am just working on selecting the actual dampener I am going to use, I might even get a bit creative with the system.......

Also I am not done with the lower control arms yet...
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Old April 15th, 2008, 10:11 AM   #24
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LCA's? Are you going to do some adjustable ones? I thought about trying to make my own for camber adjustment rather than pushing the top of the suspension out to correct for neg camber. Just suck in the bottom and problem is fixed! idk if thats even what you meant...
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the car is so smooth with the front damper and the NRG still installed on the rear.
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Old April 15th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #26
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LCA's? Are you going to do some adjustable ones? I thought about trying to make my own for camber adjustment rather than pushing the top of the suspension out to correct for neg camber. Just suck in the bottom and problem is fixed! idk if thats even what you meant...
Nope, working on further wheel hop issues, watch a accord launch from the side, you will see the entire wheel move forwars and backwards, the bushings in the LCAs need help......
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Looks very nice, keep up the good work!
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^ Already figured, but it is nice having Kai right here with his auto crossing as a test, I will also be putting them in mine as part of my my 6sp swap here soon, I am just working on selecting the actual dampener I am going to use, I might even get a bit creative with the system.......

Also I am not done with the lower control arms yet...
you know me too well paul!
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Old April 26th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #29
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that damper is pretty bad ass.. my 35 goes in very soon, im deffinitly looking into this to replace that top nrg damper
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