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Old January 18th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #1
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Better throttle response ?

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New here to the thread and just posted up 10 times to get started on new threads. I have on 06 coupe v6 auto trans as well as an 06 350z auto trans.

My question is if there is anyway to get a better throttle response on the accord that is similar to the 350z. I dont know if most of you have driven a Z but for those that have you will know what I mean. For those that havent, it is a must to try. Just wanted to see if there is anything that I can do to achieve that feel on the accord with out dropping a turbo or a supercharger. would and intake and exhuast make a difference, and if so would it sound ok with the auto trans?

Thanks in advanced and this is a great site! cant wait to show you what i have planned for this ride. First honda and lovin it!
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Old January 18th, 2009, 07:24 AM   #2
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yea a cai, headers, rich's j pipe, test pipe and cat back would im improve your throttle response. and i have a 03 couple v6 auto and it sounds nice with em on.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 09:51 AM   #3
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you could also do an underdrive pully
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Blitz makes a throttle controller for some DBW cars already, one of them being scoobys, I recently did a STI converstion on a 05 Legacy GT and looking closely at the TB it a duplicate of ours other than the bore being a little smaller, I have been thinking about getting one of these controllers and figuring out the wiring differences betweent he two vehicles to make it work.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 10:48 AM   #5
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Slam2003 thanks for that info. since you have them on your ride, do you feel a difference on the response with the auto trans? I thought about doing all that but i dont want it to sound too loud. I was reading about the pipe that hondaisim had and that sounded great! but I probably need to ask him what hes running.

What is a CAI again? (got so many acranims in my head cant make it out)
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Old January 18th, 2009, 10:51 AM   #6
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you could also do an underdrive pully
I also read about that. What sites do you guys recommend that I lurk to find out more about info and where to buy?
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Old January 18th, 2009, 10:52 AM   #7
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Blitz makes a throttle controller for some DBW cars already, one of them being scoobys, I recently did a STI converstion on a 05 Legacy GT and looking closely at the TB it a duplicate of ours other than the bore being a little smaller, I have been thinking about getting one of these controllers and figuring out the wiring differences betweent he two vehicles to make it work.

that would be nice but it seems like much work for me... I would love to know about the progress and maybe some pix
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CAI = Cold Air Intake

Unorthodox makes an under drive pulley for our cars.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 11:03 AM   #9
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Hey folks,
Thanks in advanced and this is a great site! cant wait to show you what i have planned for this ride. First honda and lovin it!
Well, what exactly do you have planned!!???
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I also read about that. What sites do you guys recommend that I lurk to find out more about info and where to buy?
UR makes a great setup. Do you have a large stereo or supercharger or do you plan to ever have one? If so you want a stock size light weight pulley; if not you can get the underdrive.

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Old January 18th, 2009, 11:32 AM   #11
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CAI = Cold Air Intake

Unorthodox makes an under drive pulley for our cars.
thats it! I new it had to do with the intake! thanks bro!
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Old January 18th, 2009, 11:36 AM   #12
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Well, what exactly do you have planned!!???

Well! I wouldnt want to ruin the surprize but there are a few good looking rides on this site. also, there are some wicked machines that can blow you away. I dont plan to do nothing crazy as it is my daily driver and from time to time i allow my wife to drive it but, a nice stance with some nice shoes and get the 3.0 beefed up for the summer time for all the ladies... Just kidding, I just want it to have more ummph on the line and have a better throttle response when in motion to get out of situations that i can sometimes get myself into. thats it...

Will definately post pix when in progress
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Old January 18th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #13
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You want throttle response? Swap the 6 speed
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Old January 18th, 2009, 01:02 PM   #14
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I know exactly what you mean, I own a 06 accord auto and I have driven an auto Z, that thing just hooks, where it seems that our computer takes a second to realize that the pedal is all the way down. Besides the throttle controller that NVA was talking about, I don't know how much the performance mods will increase your throttle response. The only product that I am aware of that even says "improves throttle response" is the grounding kit, such as the apexi. I don't own one yet, but would anyone on here that has one care to comment?
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Grounding Kit = Better throttle response, meh, the biggie thing with grounding kits is to get a good 4ga connection between the case/upper mounting bolt for the alternator and the chassis and the two main harness grounds (one near the thermostat under the throttle body and the other on the engine lift point near the passenger side of the intake) to the chassis.
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Old January 18th, 2009, 01:58 PM   #16
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Blitz makes a throttle controller for some DBW cars already, one of them being scoobys, I recently did a STI converstion on a 05 Legacy GT and looking closely at the TB it a duplicate of ours other than the bore being a little smaller, I have been thinking about getting one of these controllers and figuring out the wiring differences betweent he two vehicles to make it work.
Paul,
I hope you can get this up and running. You have pioneered so many other things for our cars and this would complete everything. Getting the throttle response with the power would make it perfect.
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Technically, wouldn't an SRI improve throttle response? I know with the RSX, it gave less power gains vs. a CAI, but gave better throttle response.

Also, I felt that the j-pipe improved throttle response. Not instantaneous, but I think the main problem that you're seeing when you compare it to the 350Z is that we don't make a lot of torque down low so when you punch it at low rpms, it takes awhile for our power to really kick in, whereas the 350Z has good low-end torque and thus, probably reacts a lot better when you hit it at low rpms. I dunno, that's just my opinion on the whole issue...
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I could be wrong, but I modded my car and have felt a difference by the car pulling harder. I've driven a 6 speed and my auto. Granted my auto makes less to the ground then the 6 speen but when I power shifted it just hooked and took-off. Even with all of my mods it takes the computer a second to take off. The only 2 auto's that I have ever driven that does not do that is the Z and a mercedes 500. They just hook. I believe this is what 06coupe is referring to. Is there a way to improve this?
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Technically, wouldn't an SRI improve throttle response? I know with the RSX, it gave less power gains vs. a CAI, but gave better throttle response.

Also, I felt that the j-pipe improved throttle response. Not instantaneous, but I think the main problem that you're seeing when you compare it to the 350Z is that we don't make a lot of torque down low so when you punch it at low rpms, it takes awhile for our power to really kick in, whereas the 350Z has good low-end torque and thus, probably reacts a lot better when you hit it at low rpms. I dunno, that's just my opinion on the whole issue...
^ what i was thinking..
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You want throttle response? Swap the 6 speed
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my throttle response is the win...
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Old January 18th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #21
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but I think the main problem that you're seeing when you compare it to the 350Z is that we don't make a lot of torque down low so when you punch it at low rpms, it takes awhile for our power to really kick in, whereas the 350Z has good low-end torque and thus, probably reacts a lot better when you hit it at low rpms. I dunno, that's just my opinion on the whole issue...
Thats it! that was the first thing i noticed, no low-end torque. Is there anything that can boost low-end torque?
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I could be wrong, but I modded my car and have felt a difference by the car pulling harder. I've driven a 6 speed and my auto. Granted my auto makes less to the ground then the 6 speen but when I power shifted it just hooked and took-off. Even with all of my mods it takes the computer a second to take off. The only 2 auto's that I have ever driven that does not do that is the Z and a mercedes 500. They just hook. I believe this is what 06coupe is referring to. Is there a way to improve this?
thats exactly what I'm talking about.
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Thats it! that was the first thing i noticed, no low-end torque. Is there anything that can boost low-end torque?
AEM CAI V2, J-Pipe, Test Pipe (3rd cat delete) and a catback exhaust should give you some decent power gains over the entire rpm range.

I still don't think you're going to match even a stock 350Z's torque output. I think we'd be around similar hp numbers, but Honda's just aren't torquey engines. that's why the 6 speed short ratio gearing is so fantastic - it allows us to stay in the higher part of our powerband all of the time so it can kind of keep the torque issue out of the equation. I don't know about the autos and how they are geared though.
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Thats it! that was the first thing i noticed, no low-end torque. Is there anything that can boost low-end torque?
Save some money, contact Paul(NVA-AV6) and get yourself a better engine. He will build one for you.
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AEM CAI V2, J-Pipe, Test Pipe (3rd cat delete) and a catback exhaust should give you some decent power gains over the entire rpm range.

I still don't think you're going to match even a stock 350Z's torque output. I think we'd be around similar hp numbers, but Honda's just aren't torquey engines. that's why the 6 speed short ratio gearing is so fantastic - it allows us to stay in the higher part of our powerband all of the time so it can kind of keep the torque issue out of the equation. I don't know about the autos and how they are geared though.
I think your right, it wont come close but it would probably feel better with those mods. I got an auto for the daily commute. I wish I would of got the manual but then again, I should of got the g35 sedan 2nd gen. But all in all, I love the 7th gen and am glad I purchased it.
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Save some money, contact Paul(NVA-AV6) and get yourself a better engine. He will build one for you.
HAHAHA! I wouldnt even try to swap an engine in this car. its just for daily commuting. Thanks though for all the info and help. I will keep you all posted on progress.
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yea its a noticable difference imo. its quicker from the dig and from the rool. like its been said those mods give you a gain throughout the whole power band
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I should have also mentioned that an UR Pulley should also give you some better throttle response from what I've read on this site.
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HAHAHA! I wouldnt even try to swap an engine in this car. its just for daily commuting. Thanks though for all the info and help. I will keep you all posted on progress.
I understand, its not te esiest descision. My goal is to eventually have a j33. My auto accord is my daily commute as well. I run on premium, use royal purple, have aem V2, thermal spacers, ur under-drive, and the e-shift pro-cats. I'm getting ready to purchase the top half of a j33. The throttle response I gained so far is minimal compared to the difference I'm sure I will get with a fully built j33. I think that would be your solid answer compared to bolt ons. However, I wish you the best of luck and please keep us posted bud.
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Hey! Thanks Guys! Archangel72, your right! I will bolt those on and keep you posted.
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