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Old June 4th, 2009, 03:13 PM  
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I spoke to Bisi a few weeks ago and asked if he had any plans for the 7th gen Accord or TL. He said yes and that he planned on developing some cams for us.

I don't have any specs or anything, but I figured I'd let you guys know in case anyone may be interested. I know the TL-s cams work well with our cars and are cheap, but I know that aftermarket cams will surely yield more power.
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sounds good, but no big mods will really be great until there is ECU support to go with it.
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Uh-oh... Looks like the J swaps on Honda-tech are starting to drive some aftermarket support for us...

I envision some serious Boost and NA cams in our future. Sh*ts getting real...
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Uh-oh... Looks like the J swaps on Honda-tech are starting to drive some aftermarket support for us...

I envision some serious Boost and NA cams in our future. Sh*ts getting real...
You may be right, sir. Hopefully this will be the start of a new era for the J series

Maybe Hondata (dare I say the word) will see the increased demand for the J series, or some other company, and do some serious R&D for an ECU program. The J series can make some serious power NA..
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I emailed him a couple months ago and never got a response but on his website it does say there will be some J-Series parts in production.

Besides, the man loves his SOHCS.
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Finally, our cars/motors are getting some recognition. Hopefully a lot more aftermarket parts start appearing soon.
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Paulter and CP will have part numbers soon for J37/J36 rods and pistons.....
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i bet the parts are gunna cost a lot :/ i want a 7th gen :/
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I emailed him a couple months ago and never got a response but on his website it does say there will be some J-Series parts in production.

Besides, the man loves his SOHCS.



I emailed him also and never got a response...
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He's a busy man. Going on tours, whooping everyone's ass with his underrated, overpowered cereal box cars.
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You may be right, sir. Hopefully this will be the start of a new era for the J series

Maybe Hondata (dare I say the word) will see the increased demand for the J series, or some other company, and do some serious R&D for an ECU program. The J series can make some serious power NA..
Hondadata. would be a god send.

if they can make intake and exhaust K20s into screamers, imagine what they could do for a j30 with i/e.
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If Hondata could run a flash for intake/jpipe/exhaust/cams..oh my god I would be all over that in a freakin' second. When I did it for my intake/exhaust RSX-S the gains were phenomenal. I got 95% of available torque from 2500rpms up..which is huge for a Honda. And peak gains were sick as well. I can only imagine what they could do with a 3.0 litre...would be so f'ing dope to have a flash for intake/exhaust/jpipe/cams. Oh well, gotta have a dream, right?
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that dude is the sohc king,thats great news for us!
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As long as there's a dyno, which there has never been for the TL-S cams.
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I know that aftermarket cams will surely yield more power.
Most of the aftermarket products are not "tested" as well as the OEM.
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But the way our Heads designed we cant run at big cam so I hope it works but I know it will
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Most of the aftermarket products are not "tested" as well as the OEM.
Or at all. 4 out of 5 people that installed the TL-S cams reported little or no additional power, so I'm still skeptical. Rereading through that thread makes me want to bang my head against my desk
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Or at all. 4 out of 5 people that installed the TL-S cams reported little or no additional power, so I'm still skeptical. Rereading through that thread makes me want to bang my head against my desk
Hey I never got to respond to you in the other thread. I am very familiar with West Genesse and they were a lacrosse powerhouse along with Garden City on LI.
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Most of the aftermarket products are not "tested" as well as the OEM.
Good point. I would still venture to say aftermarket Bisi cams will make more power than the TL-s cams on the 7th gen AV6. Bisi puts a lot of time and research into his performance parts and loves his SOHC's.

Along with this, P2R is putting together an intake manifold for us. So things are looking pretty nifty right now.
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Good point. I would still venture to say aftermarket Bisi cams will make more power than the TL-s cams on the 7th gen AV6. Bisi puts a lot of time and research into his performance parts and loves his SOHC's.

Along with this, P2R is putting together an intake manifold for us. So things are looking pretty nifty right now.
yay for nifty SH|T
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Good point. I would still venture to say aftermarket Bisi cams will make more power than the TL-s cams on the 7th gen AV6. Bisi puts a lot of time and research into his performance parts and loves his SOHC's.

Along with this, P2R is putting together an intake manifold for us. So things are looking pretty nifty right now.
Would adding cams and an intake manifold to I/E/Jpipe/Test Pipe necessitate engine management of some sort or do you think our ECU can compensate? I'm not all about the Neo since our ECU detunes it..so would we need like an AEM FIC with all these mods? I know obviously a good tune is the most important thing when you're dealing with mods. It can give you some nice gains and smooth out power delivery. But since engine management for our car is suspect, I'm just curious how this would work if we stayed with the stock ECU.
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Would adding cams and an intake manifold to I/E/Jpipe/Test Pipe necessitate engine management of some sort or do you think our ECU can compensate? I'm not all about the Neo since our ECU detunes it..so would we need like an AEM FIC with all these mods? I know obviously a good tune is the most important thing when you're dealing with mods. It can give you some nice gains and smooth out power delivery. But since engine management for our car is suspect, I'm just curious how this would work if we stayed with the stock ECU.
+1 I guess it depends on the programing inside the PCM and capabilities of our fuel injectors and stuff like tht
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I imagine that with all the bolt ons and cams a tune would definitely be necessary to maximize gains. Our stock ECU's can only compensate so much and i think that even with all the current bolt ons available the ECU isnt making up for all these mods.
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Paulter and CP will have part numbers soon for J37/J36 rods and pistons.....
will they work with a j30a4 crank/block?
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Would adding cams and an intake manifold to I/E/Jpipe/Test Pipe necessitate engine management of some sort or do you think our ECU can compensate? I'm not all about the Neo since our ECU detunes it..so would we need like an AEM FIC with all these mods? I know obviously a good tune is the most important thing when you're dealing with mods. It can give you some nice gains and smooth out power delivery. But since engine management for our car is suspect, I'm just curious how this would work if we stayed with the stock ECU.
Read the TL-S camshaft install thread for an exhaustive discussion on it.
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MBR: Yes, you should invest in some sort of engine management rather than the NEO if you get some cams. We still need to find a way to advance timing to gain some extra power, especially with cams. Cams and high compression gives us AV6's a BIG increase in power. Look at Brett (worldon1finger) with his 5AT J33..he gained 35whp on the dyno upping the CR to 11:1 after the TL-s cams. The gains from his 3.3L 5AT should be the same for the 3.0 6MTs, which is huge.
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MBR: Yes, you should invest in some sort of engine management rather than the NEO if you get some cams. We still need to find a way to advance timing to gain some extra power, especially with cams. Cams and high compression gives us AV6's a BIG increase in power. Look at Brett (worldon1finger) with his 5AT J33..he gained 35whp on the dyno upping the CR to 11:1 after the TL-s cams. The gains from his 3.3L 5AT should be the same for the 3.0 6MTs, which is huge.
I can only dream of +35whp... There are tons of people with j30s now. I dont know why hondata isnt jumping on it. Are there any other problems then having enough customers?
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Hondata is making a killing with K-Pro so IMO they are just being hesitant to go away from what put them on the map...

I'm sure it will eventually happen, but I'm afraid most of us will have already moved on in our car life.
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I can only dream of +35whp... There are tons of people with j30s now. I dont know why hondata isnt jumping on it. Are there any other problems then having enough customers?
Your guess is as good as mine. From what I've heard, they said they did some R&D on the TL but didn't find a large enough increase in power. I'm not sure what else it's gonna take..we have Accords, TL's, CL's, RL's, MDX's, Odyssey's, Pilot's, Ridgelines, and even swapped civics! Sh1t everyone and their mom wants a J civic, I know I do. Even better a J36 RSX

The J30a4/5 has the potential to see 300whp NA. All the bolt-ons plus increased compression, aggressive cams, PnP heads/IM, bored TB, etc, etc. If someone would be willing to lend me $5 G's for an NA build, 12s aren't out of the question
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