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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:24 AM   #1
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Short Ram Intake...

I figured it was about time for me to make one of these since there really doesn't seem to be a option out there. I stratched it out to put the filter into the opening for the stock air box so it will still draw mostly cold air. Welded in and threaded a bung for the Intake Temp Sensor and am using silicon couplers and stinless T-Bolt clamps. It also has a 1/2" port in the bottom for the breater line. It is 3" diameter and currently I am using a K&N RE-0930 cone filter alothough pretty much any 3" cone could be used. What do you guys think?




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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:32 AM   #2
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Is this NA? Wont it BOG? I put a short ram on my pilot just for kicks and it was noticeably slower.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #3
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Looks good. Are you gonna start selling these? If so I need just the pipe since I have a few filters laying around.
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^That's funny, I made a full CAI for my 03 Pilot 2 years ago and got exactly the opisite effect.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:44 AM   #5
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needs more polishing
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Old September 16th, 2009, 08:46 AM   #6
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That is not polished, but burnished. Who says that it can't also be powder coated.....
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Old September 16th, 2009, 09:18 AM   #7
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looks sweet nice work
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Old September 16th, 2009, 09:40 AM   #8
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Have you considered making some kind of heat shield for it Paul?
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Old September 16th, 2009, 09:53 AM   #9
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I like it, this is how all SRI should look on our cars. I'd be interested if you are thinking about making a few more of these.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:03 AM   #10
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Have you considered making some kind of heat shield for it Paul?
What would be the purpose of the heat shield? It is already putting the filter on the other side of the battery away from major heat sources and the direc air from the radiator.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:05 AM   #11
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I like it, this is how all SRI should look on our cars. I'd be interested if you are thinking about making a few more of these.
Here is what I came up with after making this one.

$100 for the pipe and hardware (including the silicone coupling ,T-Bolt camps and bolt to plug the stock IAT.
$25 to powder coat
Filters are common so no need to add any shipping costs for one, I get the K&Ns from Advance Auto Parts for $40.
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agreed, this is the first SRI I've seen on our cars that tucks the filter further down. I'd soooo buy this over CAI. Please update us if you plan on selling these.
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I'm not trying to be an ass I'm just ignorant. What would the benefits of this be over a CAI kit?
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:24 AM   #14
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^No chance of Hydrolocking.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #15
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What would be the purpose of the heat shield? It is already putting the filter on the other side of the battery away from major heat sources and the direc air from the radiator.
I see it's angled behind the battery, but I would assume there's still hot air getting to it from the space between the battery and the fuse box no?
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^No chance of Hydrolocking.
Technically wouldn't it give you slightly better throttle response, too? There's definitely a slight delay with my V2 when I give it throttle.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:27 AM   #17
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Not if moving forward, air would be coming in thru the opening that the stock air box uses and pushing out the bottom of the engine bay.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #18
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Technically wouldn't it give you slightly better throttle response, too? There's definitely a slight delay with my V2 when I give it throttle.
I doubt that so much, our cars just seem to have a lag in TR due to the DBW system.
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So you get a little boost in HP, better fuel economy over the stock air box but not to the extent of CAI, BUT you don't have the possibility of hydrolocking your ride. I like this! Wouldn't this be less effective once the engine is warm and toasty? Or does hiding it down and behind the battery limit this effect. I guess what I am looking for is how this would compare in performance gains to a CAI kit. Of course you just built this so that may be hard to say...

Edit: I posted to slow! So eliminating the airbox and tucking this puppy down and behind the battery hides it from some of the heat produced by the engine and allows airflow from the cars stock airbox design "system"?
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:35 AM   #20
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Not if moving forward, air would be coming in thru the opening that the stock air box uses and pushing out the bottom of the engine bay.
Very true.

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I doubt that so much, our cars just seem to have a lag in TR due to the DBW system.
I know we have DBW, but what I'm talking about is the lag due to the longer piping on a CAI. Is the air flow to the TB instant no matter how long the intake piping is?
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Old September 16th, 2009, 10:46 AM   #21
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Looking good Paul. It's nice to see that you are now fabbing up SRI's and from the pic it appears to be another high quality piece as usual. Very similar to what I made a while back but yours looks much nicer than my creation. I think I've been the only person running one(that I know of), so its great that you may be offering these to others.

You may remember seeing mine at your meets, but here is a pic for reference. Black curved tubing w/ red Fujita cone filter.
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^no chance of hydrolocking.
+1 your SRI looks good! how's the performance?
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Old September 16th, 2009, 11:13 AM   #23
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I don't know if it's just the throatier sound but mine feels quicker.

It's not special or anything and I doubt this is lending any extra performance at all.

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Paul, maybe you could hook up your HDS and monitor the intake temps on the SRI vs a CAI. I doubt the SRI would be much warmer.
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I don't know if it's just the throatier sound but mine feels quicker.

It's not special or anything and I doubt this is lending any extra performance at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdrB01NCctI
Thanks for the vid! Didn't know we had others with DIY SRI's on here, and that sure is an interesting way of doing it.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 11:49 AM   #26
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To me anyway, I don't hear any diff between this and the V1 I used to have on my car. I also don't see intake temps being much different if at all, except if sitting at idle, in that case the air in the bay will heat up, but once you start moving it should quickly get cleared out.
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I'd definitely be interested in this since with the desert dust my filter gets filthy on my V2.
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I personally think CAI are overrated and expensive. With these setups you get a the good compromise without putting the motor at risk. Some sound and some HP increase at a resonable cost. I also happen to like the look of the SRI in the engine bay.

I use my car as an all season daily driver, so constantly filthy filters and possible hydrolock just aren't worth it to me.

Hey Paul, what are the benefits of the moving the Intake Temp Sensor out onto the intake piping? I've seen it done before just never got the full scoop.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 02:21 PM   #29
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Hey Paul, what are the benefits of the moving the Intake Temp Sensor out onto the intake piping? I've seen it done before just never got the full scoop.
It gives the sensor colder temp readings which the ecu responds with by fattening the fuel a bit.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 02:34 PM   #30
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I'd definitely be interested in this since with the desert dust my filter gets filthy on my V2.
Well, let me know and we can get these going....
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