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Old March 6th, 2011, 11:23 PM   #1
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04 accord cel on

04 accord 2dr 6speed cel p2197 and 2195 came on. Need help. Thanks.

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Old March 7th, 2011, 12:30 AM   #2
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Sorry not sure if its in the right section. If not, mods please move to the right one thanks. I do feel a little vibration from the car that the codes came on.

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Old March 7th, 2011, 04:08 AM   #3
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04 accord 2dr 6speed cel p2197 and 2195 came on. Need help. Thanks.

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the DTC codes yo have are for a lean mixture on both cylinder heads...


possible cause: either 2 bad upper O2 sensors...


or a TSB for 2003-2004 models is a pcm software update....

the very last and least cause is valves not properly adjusted...
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Old March 9th, 2011, 08:55 PM   #4
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I did some research and people did say that the pcm might need a update. I called the dealer and they quotes me $100. Is that fair or is there another way to update it for cheaper? Thanks

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Old March 9th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #5
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yo...

nothing is fair at the dealer....

i would do the update...if it was under 100k Honda should do it as a courtesy.....


hopefully the update fixes it...

if you are 6mt...don't do the update....

because right now your ecu(03-05 pre-pcm update) has no speed limiter....
the new pcm update adds a speed limiter....
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Old March 10th, 2011, 02:38 AM   #6
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I am a 6mt. Really. Dang that sucks. Well the good thing is that it turned off on its own today. But if it does pop up again with the same then I will just deal with it cuz I dont want a speed limiter. Thank s so much for the help.

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Old March 10th, 2011, 07:33 AM   #7
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yo...

my personal recommendation....

change both upper 02 sensors or at least the rear one first....

and see if the problem goes away...once you reset the ecu...it

normally takes about 50 miles before all the systems have passed

their checks...then you will see if the engine code pops up.....

if it pops up after replacing both sensors...time for a valve

adjustment...
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