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Old March 20th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #1
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Roll bar, 6pt chromoly

Well, with round 2 a couple of weeks away, We've been pounding away at preparation for both cars. In order to meet regulations due to having aftermarket seats, a roll bar is mandatory. We're currently in the process of building a 6 pt roll bar, with a X in the back for the accord. Here are some pictures of the preparation and location of each point.
















The Project Import's S2000 however is lucky enough to get full body armor. A roll cage is almost complete, just need to finish all the welds and finishing touches and she will be done. Once shes done, we will install the tubing in the accord and weld her up aswell.

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all the welds will get finished and cleaned up, than its on to the Accord.
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Damn dude looks sick. Im gonna need one sometime soon too!! cant wait to see more progress.

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Old March 20th, 2011, 08:54 AM   #3
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i've always wanted to do this.... have a guy in town who does em.... curious to see how this turns out! What color you gonna paint it (chrome dip, im assuming but figured i'd ask)? O_o
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Looks good

How much weight will this add to the chassis?
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Old March 20th, 2011, 09:48 AM   #5
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i've always wanted to do this.... have a guy in town who does em.... curious to see how this turns out! What color you gonna paint it (chrome dip, im assuming but figured i'd ask)? O_o
Probably black for both cars.


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Looks good

How much weight will this add to the chassis?
The amount of piping used in the S2000 was weighed to be about 150lbs.

The amount of piping weighed for the accord came in to be about 100lbs.

This is without cutting them up yet. This was when the piping was purchased and unbent.
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Old March 20th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #6
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thats sik i like to see more accords as race cars
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Old March 21st, 2011, 02:47 AM   #7
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Well done, when will we see video of you at the track?
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This car is going to be fantastic! Keep up the good work!
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Old March 21st, 2011, 08:18 AM   #9
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Well done, when will we see video of you at the track?
Next event is in 18 days. I must get the in-car camera to shoot correctly. Last event the sun glared the windshield so all you could see is inside the cabin.

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haha...are you doing the road course or straight line becuz that S2000 looks like a corner machine wit that wing
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haha...are you doing the road course or straight line becuz that S2000 looks like a corner machine wit that wing
road course. if I were to go straight line, I'd build a drag car with a billet machined block and cylinder heads. Our shop neighbor has one of these, over 2000whp nostalgic dragster called the fighting irisher.

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road course. if I were to go straight line, I'd build a drag car with a billet machined block and cylinder heads. Our shop neighbor has one of these, over 2000whp nostalgic dragster called the fighting irisher.

thats crazy...i just checked out your other threads BTW...car looks awesome goin around those corners....also looks like you have the fabled same braking issues i have in that well the car doesnt stop! haha...i deleted my ABS system and ran hard lines with prop valves...i have minor lockup occassionally but my latest project is the LSD install i have had some backups but should be resolving them soon for a track day in May....
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Old March 22nd, 2011, 01:00 AM   #13
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FYI: The car weighed in at 2950 at the track 2 weeks ago with the whole front dash, 2 bucket seats and a harness bar....
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Will you be able to stay under 3k with the roll bar?
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Will you be able to stay under 3k with the roll bar?
not in street tire class for redline no. I would have to remove alot more stuff which would take me out of street tire classifications and regulations. Not worried about being 3000-3100lbs though. Car makes good enough power to not worry so much. I'm also putting a APR wing on the car which will increase drag. In the end its all about being able to keep the car planted on the ground and allowing me to stay on the gas.
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not in street tire class for redline no. I would have to remove alot more stuff which would take me out of street tire classifications and regulations. Not worried about being 3000-3100lbs though. Car makes good enough power to not worry so much. I'm also putting a APR wing on the car which will increase drag. In the end its all about being able to keep the car planted on the ground and allowing me to stay on the gas.
that suks u gotta put a cage in...N.A.S.A. does not even require a roll bar for their Time Trial series. I do however have one in my car. i would not feel safe pullin high speed corners without it. My car is about 2700 lbs now raceweight this is with a full tank of gas and larger diameter/stiffer F/R sway bars. Man i wish there was a way we could compete somehow...that would be sik 2 accords goin at it!
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that suks u gotta put a cage in...N.A.S.A. does not even require a roll bar for their Time Trial series. I do however have one in my car. i would not feel safe pullin high speed corners without it. My car is about 2700 lbs now raceweight this is with a full tank of gas and larger diameter/stiffer F/R sway bars. Man i wish there was a way we could compete somehow...that would be sik 2 accords goin at it!
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Just curious. About how much money $$$ does it cost to put a roll cage like this one in an accord coupe?
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Old March 23rd, 2011, 09:13 AM   #19
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depends where you go, what piping diameter you use, what kind of piping you use.

it range anywhere from 2000-5000 for a full roll cage.
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That sure does look sweet!
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Old March 24th, 2011, 08:33 AM   #23
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at work on the Grocery Getter, she should be cleaned up and done by Saturday.











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nice!...i cant bring myself to cage my car yet....to much weight...i am so addicted to taking weight off the car that i cringe when i have to add things like beefy sway bars etc...
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nice!...i cant bring myself to cage my car yet....to much weight...i am so addicted to taking weight off the car that i cringe when i have to add things like beefy sway bars etc...
road racing isn't all about cutting weight bro. you can only cut so much, but you will in the end have to distribute weight evenly to all four wheels. with a 450lb engine/trans up front, subframe, fluid in rad, etc. driver you will need weight in the rear, and a stiffer rear too. otherwise handling can't be precise. I will be corner balancing soon too and there will be a thread about that.
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I am thinking you just picked up about 75lbs.
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road racing isn't all about cutting weight bro. you can only cut so much, but you will in the end have to distribute weight evenly to all four wheels. with a 450lb engine/trans up front, subframe, fluid in rad, etc. driver you will need weight in the rear, and a stiffer rear too. otherwise handling can't be precise. I will be corner balancing soon too and there will be a thread about that.
i agree but my theory is the lighter the better regardless of where the weight comes off of...and idk if you are having any issues with the rear end swinging around but my car is planted in the rear end lmk if you need anythin ill be glad to discuss setup with you. Not too much involved with my rear end the only major mod i have is the low offset wheels i had to mod the fenders to fit. And 245/40/17 Goodyear Eagle RS DOT-R-Comp tires, A must for anyone who is tracking their accord. But 9.5 inch wheels will clear the stock fenders in the back with a higher offset. The other mods i have in the rear is a Progress 28mm adjustable sway bar and Megan EZ Street 15 way adjustable coilover. An inexpensive setup i know...but the car was incredibly stable. And u kno i am completely gutted ~2700lbs raceweight with a full tank of gas. I know the going theory is more weight over the tires gives more grip but i believe that is completely false. The more weight over any tire is gonna cause it to roll over more during hard cornering and cause and increase in heat compared to lighter weight over the tires.
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^^^ I like his theory....
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i agree but my theory is the lighter the better regardless of where the weight comes off of...and idk if you are having any issues with the rear end swinging around but my car is planted in the rear end lmk if you need anythin ill be glad to discuss setup with you. Not too much involved with my rear end the only major mod i have is the low offset wheels i had to mod the fenders to fit. And 245/40/17 Goodyear Eagle RS DOT-R-Comp tires, A must for anyone who is tracking their accord. But 9.5 inch wheels will clear the stock fenders in the back with a higher offset. The other mods i have in the rear is a Progress 28mm adjustable sway bar and Megan EZ Street 15 way adjustable coilover. An inexpensive setup i know...but the car was incredibly stable. And u kno i am completely gutted ~2700lbs raceweight with a full tank of gas. I know the going theory is more weight over the tires gives more grip but i believe that is completely false. The more weight over any tire is gonna cause it to roll over more during hard cornering and cause and increase in heat compared to lighter weight over the tires.
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^^^ I like his theory....
I am having rear end sliding. Yes

How fast are you going into turns? That will be the true question. The track you're racing on, is it flat, or alot of elevation change. That also is another question. Trust me, I have alot of track experience, with all kinds of cars, and with this car, the rear end gives and definitely needs downforce. Which is why there will be a wing installed.
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The other mods i have in the rear is a Progress 28mm adjustable sway bar and Megan EZ Street 15 way adjustable coilover.
Did you mean 24mm in the rear?
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