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Old May 12th, 2012, 10:59 AM   #1
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J32a3 swap on 7g accord 1/4 mile

1/4 miles passes after swapping a j32a3 on my 06 accord coupe 6sp.
Mod: Xlr8 v2 J-Pipe, Borla Cat-back and Torque dumper.
most run were 14.1s





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Old May 12th, 2012, 02:39 PM   #2
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Nice. What were you trapping before the swap? How long did the swap take you? Any problems, or is the wiring harness the only thing you have to mess around with to get the J32a3 installed? TL ecu or stock one?
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spill the beans for the swap. lol what ecu are you running?
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Nice swap. Shouldnt you run a bit quicker than 14.1s with the swap & the bolt-ons? I ran a 14.3 with just a intake...
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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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Nice. What were you trapping before the swap? How long did the swap take you? Any problems, or is the wiring harness the only thing you have to mess around with to get the J32a3 installed? TL ecu or stock one?
Before the swap I trapped once at 98 mph, did 14.2 at that speed with 2.21.. 0 to 60 foot. than mostly 97.. 14.3 and 14.4 best with just the Borla exhaust.
I pay someone to to swap the engine. it took him two day. I have a check engine do to a pin that need to be relocate on the ecu harness that all. I have the Tl ecu.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 04:33 PM   #7
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Nice swap. Shouldnt you run a bit quicker than 14.1s with the swap & the bolt-ons? I ran a 14.3 with just a intake...
Yea It could do better, I need better tires. and I was taking it a bit easy when I shift since I blew the j30a5 engine 3 weeks ago. I think it could do 14.0 or maybe 13.9. I am going back next Friday, two rsx-s's want to race me

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What's the DA (density altitude) or relative horsepower percentage for the track?

What tires are you running? Was your previous 2.21 60ft on the same tires?
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What's the DA (density altitude) or relative horsepower percentage for the track?

What tires are you running? Was your previous 2.21 60ft on the same tires?
I don't know the DA but I had the stock 6sp wheels with factory Micheline tire size 225 50 17 when I did the 2.21.. now I have some Raptor tire 235 50 17 on tl-s wheels
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Well, what's the name of the track and what were the weather conditions yesterday when you ran?

Air Temperature: degrees F
Ambient Barometric Pressure: inches hg
Ambient Relative Humidity: %
Physical Or Pressure Altitude: feet
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What's the DA (density altitude) or relative horsepower percentage for the track?

What tires are you running? Was your previous 2.21 60ft on the same tires?
the Temp was 53
here is the track info.
New England Dragway is sanctioned by the
National Hot Rod Association (NHRA)
Elevation :
90 feet above sea level
Track Surface - Concrete :
1320 feet
Total length (including shutdown area) :
4000 feet
Width of 1/4 mile :
60 feet
Width at shutdown :
60 feet
Timing system:
Fiber-optic Compulink StarTrak III
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Next time you go to the track, you can record the weather conditions and input them here: Relative Horsepower Calculator. It will tell you what your relative hp is compared to SAE. Your 06 Accord was rated at 244 chp (SAE) stock and the J32A3 is rated at 258 chp (SAE).

You might get 13.9 with some better tires that lower that 60ft a bit.

Did you solve your CEL? I saw your post in another thread about it?
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Gotta give u props for getting back on ur feet after the dreaded 3rd to 2nd shift. Got a swap done n hitting the track back up again shortly after. Hope u get ur ecu running right, cel removed asap n continue progress.

Quick question tho...did the tq damper handle the launches well? Wheel hop/spin lmk, I'm curious
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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:35 PM   #15
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Next time you go to the track, you can record the weather conditions and input them here: Relative Horsepower Calculator. It will tell you what your relative hp is compared to SAE. Your 06 Accord was rated at 244 chp (SAE) stock and the J32A3 is rated at 258 chp (SAE).

You might get 13.9 with some better tires that lower that 60ft a bit.

Did you solve your CEL? I saw your post in another thread about it?
No, I haven't find out the pin I have to relocate.

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Old May 12th, 2012, 07:44 PM   #16
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Gotta give u props for getting back on ur feet after the dreaded 3rd to 2nd shift. Got a swap done n hitting the track back up again shortly after. Hope u get ur ecu running right, cel removed asap n continue progress.

Quick question tho...did the tq damper handle the launches well? Wheel hop/spin lmk, I'm curious
Thanks jiga. I am thinking of building the j30 during this coming winter.
The tq damper did help a lot cause I still had some wheel hop but not as bad. the tire if I didn't warm them up, I would not get traction al all untill third compare to the micheline I had before.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #17
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thats movin nicely for just a j-pipe and catback, glad to see you are back up and running . I would say you are probably around 245whp right now. But yea that engine should be gettin you alot faster times...I understand your cautiousness though i blew 3 engines goin from 3rd to 2nd . To this day i still hold my breathe shifting from 3rd to 4th in a race.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #18
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I don't know why everybody is questioning his engine's power. His car is trapping 2 MPH faster than my 40k mile j30a4 6-6 JP/CBE/V2/URD pulley did, and 2-3 mph faster than his j30a5 did. Let's not forget the j30a5 was 244 hp SAE, making it only 14 BHP less than the j32a3. His times will get better with traction; I went to the track this spring with the same temps, hardly 50 degrees, and I had to ***** foot it out of the hole with a little less power than he's making with the J32. Trapping 100 mph is what guys like Sonnick hit with 250 whp Accords. Just because you had a freak launch and perfect 60 ft time doesn't mean his car is weaksauce, when it's out trapping yours by 3 mph :P

Also, my technique for speed shifting the 3-4 shift is to turn my hand the opposite way, and have the back of my hand facing the steering wheel, instead of the glovebox or on top of the shifter. This eliminates your natural tendency to move the shifter towards you when shifting back to 4th, as your arm is at an angle away from your body. I've been beating the piss out of many cars for a decade now, and I have yet to miss a shift without a mechanical issue (the slave cylinder failing on my old Accord, and leaving the pedal to the floor on upshifts sometimes, but that was a neutral misshift and doesn't hurt the engine as it just pegs the rev limiter).
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Old May 12th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #19
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it's also depend on the track , here in quebec Stock av6 run 97-98 mph stock, 99-100 with intake and J-pipe and i will tell you soon what it run with intake,j-pipe,3inch single exhaust with gutted interior !.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:24 AM   #20
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thats movin nicely for just a j-pipe and catback, glad to see you are back up and running . I would say you are probably around 245whp right now. But yea that engine should be gettin you alot faster times...I understand your cautiousness though i blew 3 engines goin from 3rd to 2nd . To this day i still hold my breathe shifting from 3rd to 4th in a race.
Thanks Cuba, I think I'll do better here is a pic of my tires. I had to burn the sht out of them if no, I wouldn't be able to go full throttle on first and second gear.
What size tire are best for the track on 17x8 wheels?
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:27 AM   #21
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Chulo nice man. You gained 2-3mph in trap that's all that matters. NHB said it well. Your 60' was worse but you still ran better and trapped higher.

Btw 235/50 is decently bigger than stock. You're losing mph and ET in your tires as well. check the diff in diameter, it's prob an inch or more. Every inch counts
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:33 AM   #22
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its not so much the size its the level of grip, usually tires with a 200 or less treadwear rating are gonna give you better grip. The tread design that works best is obviously a full slick tire but no one is gonna rock slicks on their daily so just try to find a tread design that works for you. For example i would rock a 225/45/17 on the factory 17x7 wheels and a Hankook RS3 tire if i had a daily that i was tracking.. LAstly, there is only so much grip you can get without LSD or stiffer motor mounts. Remember a good suspension and tire pressure setup also affects your grip level as well. I have never really made an attempt to "setup" a car for straight line but it looks like a stiff rear setup and getting as much weight transferred to the front of the car is a good starting point.
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[QUOTE=NHB_AV6-6;1993689]I don't know why everybody is questioning his engine's power. His car is trapping 2 MPH faster than my 40k mile j30a4 6-6 JP/CBE/V2/URD pulley did, and 2-3 mph faster than his j30a5 did. Let's not forget the j30a5 was 244 hp SAE, making it only 14 BHP less than the j32a3. His times will get better with traction; I went to the track this spring with the same temps, hardly 50 degrees, and I had to ***** foot it out of the hole with a little less power than he's making with the J32. Trapping 100 mph is what guys like Sonnick hit with 250 whp Accords. Just because you had a freak launch and perfect 60 ft time doesn't mean his car is weaksauce, when it's out trapping yours by 3 mph :P



I also thinks that the ecu is just starting to learn the different flow with the j-pipe and exhaust since I got it install on Wednesday and didn't drive the car much before the track. One thing I notice that in the 1/4 mile with the j30 I shift to 4 right at the end of the 1/4 mile and with the j32 I am on four gear longer

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3mph is big! get some grip and you hit the 13 easy. What tranny you have? TL aren't Shorter?
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I believe the redline is a little bit lower, so with the stock trans he'd be shifting at slightly lower MPH. So instead of going into 4th at 90 he'd have to shift at like 85.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #26
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I have the accord tranny, it redline the same. I kind of fell the 4 gear week, but I love the 3 gear, it pull hard.
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I'm interested in doing this swap.

What year ecu are using? 06 TL MT?

Would you get a CEL if you used a 04-05 TL MT ecu?
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I'm interested in doing this swap.

What year ecu are using? 06 TL MT?

Would you get a CEL if you used a 04-05 TL MT ecu?
I am using an 04 tl mt ecu, I first got an 06 ecu but that didn't work cause Acura changed the ecu wiring on the 06+ tl
Yea you would get a cell (p0453) FTP fuel tank pressure sensor hight imput. unless you relocate a pin on the ecu that would look for this sensor. I still haven't find which is the pin that has to be relocated.
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I've been looking at the pinouts for the 04 TL, 07-08 TL (someone mentioned that the 06 TL has similar pinouts), and the 06 Accord. Almost every pin is different between the 07/08 TL and the 06 Accord. I'm still looking for the 06 TL pinouts, specifically.

According to the 04-05 TL pinouts here: ECU Pinout 3G TL - AcuraZine Community, the Fuel Tank Pressure sensor pin at A29 is the same as the 06 Accord in my Helms FSM.

Here are the pinouts of a 03 Accord: http://www.v6performance.net/forums/1653651-post35.html

Are you using the 06 TL engine harness or did you swap your 06 Accord harness over to the TL engine?

EDIT: You need to move the GRN/BLK wire at A28 to A1. It's the sensor ground (SG4) for the FTP sensor.

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