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Old July 8th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #1
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Fresh engine, need a starting point!

Hey guys! I'm new to the forum and I've read SO MUCH awesome stuff that I don't have any clue as to where I should start as far as building a 300+ hp 2004 Honda Accord Ex Coupe v6 with the 6 speed manual. I don't have too much money to "guinea pig" with, which so many of you have already done(belated and a due thank you guinea piggers!). So where should I start guys??
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Let's start with cheaper things first and work up to the big ballers. I've currently started using 93 octane and have gone through approximately 1.5 tanks and can tell a huge difference in power.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #3
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If you're shooting for 300, stop now, go buy a TL 3.2l motor, and swap it in.
Then upgrade.

Otherwise, intake, exhaust, high flow cats or pre-cat deletes, 3rd cat delete, j-pipe upgrade, MDX or TLS cams.

Start at rv6-p.com for the cats and jpipe, work outward from there.

Swap your trans fluid to the new fluid from Honda and do something called a check valve delete(idk about this part im auto) for better shifting.

Stickers for extra hp.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 01:49 AM   #4
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I'll start with the stickers then
3.2 swap difficult or pretty straight forward? If I did a 3.2 swap I'd get a comptech supercharger, aasco flywheel/clutch, and call it a night. Also new Trans fluid wtf?
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Old July 9th, 2014, 05:02 AM   #5
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Your not going to break 300who easily. Either a comptech super charger or a turbo. be prepare to drop 6k+
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Old July 9th, 2014, 06:59 AM   #6
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First mod should either be a CAI or Jpipe. I started off with a Jpipe first and it was a great mod. And if you are staying all motor, the TB Motorworx 3.8 Final Drive is a great option. It won't be cheap to buy OR install, but it's an awesome upgrade.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 07:42 AM   #7
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I am just going to stay this to piss sonnik off. Port and polish runners lol
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Old July 9th, 2014, 07:44 AM   #8
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Buy the flashpro first speaking from experiences
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I am just going to stay this to piss sonnik off. Port and polish runners lol
Damnit Ken!! Lmao.

Nah it was only cuz that f*cker was clogging up my thread.
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I loved the throttle response with my LWP. I actually have one for sale in my FS thread. Sorry not trying to push a sale, I truly loved the difference.

You want to start with mods that you can feel off the bat... here are my suggestions.

- Amsoil syncomesh trans fluid
- Cor sport or equivalent shifter cable bushings
- Comptech or equivalent short shifter
- Light Weight Pulley - Stock Dia or Underdrive
- J Pipe
- 2.5" or up Exhuast
- 3.5 - 4" CAI
- CVD (Slave check valve delete) - FREE !!!!!

Then start the IM's, porting/gasket matching, etc.

Ultimate bang for buck, get a 75 shot Wet or Dry Nitrous System!!! Zex seems to have a solid system. Nothing will ever come close to the power gain for money, nothing.
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Damnit Ken!! Lmao.

Nah it was only cuz that f*cker was clogging up my thread.
My bad bro I didn't mean to!!
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I loved the throttle response with my LWP. I actually have one for sale in my FS thread. Sorry not trying to push a sale, I truly loved the difference.

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Old July 9th, 2014, 11:35 AM   #13
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My bad bro I didn't mean to!!
Oh that was you?! LMAOOOO. Nah bro, it's all good, I'm only teasing. But yea above are all good suggestions. The Jpipe is a great mod to start out with because you really feel the difference. PCDs would also be a great mod to start out with, but that's up to you if you want to delete the cats right away.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 11:41 AM   #14
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Oh that was you?! LMAOOOO. Nah bro, it's all good, I'm only teasing. But yea above are all good suggestions. The Jpipe is a great mod to start out with because you really feel the difference. PCDs would also be a great mod to start out with, but that's up to you if you want to delete the cats right away.
It's all in good fun bro haha. I can't do cat deletes I live in a county with emissions. I'd have to do high flow cats.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 11:47 AM   #15
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I believe I'll go do a baseline dyno. Need to find somewhere in Georgia that does this. I've already done a air box delete I guess you could call it since all I did was remove the air box and put a spectre air filter on the end of it! Also I've done 2.5 inch straight piped from the third cat back.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 01:00 PM   #16
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If you want 300 reliable non refill based horses...you pretty much have to replace every bolt-on on the car.

If you can afford to do it I'd do it all at once. You'll save time in removing and re-installing things especially if you are paying someone to do it.

Steal Jigas mod list and do it all at once. I'd skip the P&P stuff myself but I'm not too fond of pulling the heads unless you already need a timing belt or head gasket.

If you are doing it in stages...the exhaust will get you the easy stuff fastest. I did the jpipe/pcd combo first...still on stock catback. I'm not sure how much intake mods will gain done first as the emissions stuff is the biggest restriction at the onset.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 01:23 PM   #17
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^ Buddy has a 10# tank, 75 shot jets, runs every weekend, and just refilled for the first time in 3 months. Just saying
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Old July 9th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #18
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If you want 300 reliable non refill based horses...you pretty much have to replace every bolt-on on the car.

If you can afford to do it I'd do it all at once. You'll save time in removing and re-installing things especially if you are paying someone to do it.

Steal Jigas mod list and do it all at once. I'd skip the P&P stuff myself but I'm not too fond of pulling the heads unless you already need a timing belt or head gasket.

If you are doing it in stages...the exhaust will get you the easy stuff fastest. I did the jpipe/pcd combo first...still on stock catback. I'm not sure how much intake mods will gain done first as the emissions stuff is the biggest restriction at the onset.
Who's jiga? Link please!
PS I just got out of surgery. Nerve correction hurts like hell.
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Old July 10th, 2014, 07:23 PM   #19
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I'm feeling like I may need a new clutch soonish. Any reviews on this? http://m.ebay.com/itm/221246177302?nav=SEARCH
Or is there a better combo I should look into?
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Old July 10th, 2014, 08:10 PM   #20
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^ that's is an OEM set up, good choice. I run that set up an just had it done bout 20k miles ago. Do the check valve delete and it will catch hard.
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Old July 10th, 2014, 08:57 PM   #21
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Could I get a good instructional on the CVD please?
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Old July 11th, 2014, 06:17 PM   #22
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Hate to be "that guy" but just do a search. There should be good DIY threads on both here and azine. I even think I found youtube videos when I did mine.

I will say, depending on where you are from, it may be worth it to just buy a new slave cylinder and do the delete to that one. If you're from up north all the corrosion will make the job take much longer and its worth your time and money to just buy a new one.
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Hate to be "that guy" but just do a search. There should be good DIY threads on both here and azine. I even think I found youtube videos when I did mine.

I will say, depending on where you are from, it may be worth it to just buy a new slave cylinder and do the delete to that one. If you're from up north all the corrosion will make the job take much longer and its worth your time and money to just buy a new one.
I have searched but I like asking because sometimes someone may have a shortcut, like buying a new slave cylinder thanks for the suggestion bud!!
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No problem. It's definately worth doing just for the driver's feel but necessary if you plan on putting down any kind of serious power. My brand new clutch would slip between every gear if I was in the throttle because of the stupid check valve. Now that it is gone it bites hard all the time.
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Hate to be "that guy" but just do a search. There should be good DIY threads on both here and azine. I even think I found youtube videos when I did mine.

I will say, depending on where you are from, it may be worth it to just buy a new slave cylinder and do the delete to that one. If you're from up north all the corrosion will make the job take much longer and its worth your time and money to just buy a new one.
Agreed. It is worth it to buy a new one. Getting the c-clip out in the end is much easier when it is new
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^ i agree and you also don't have to clean up all the crap inside.
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Old July 14th, 2014, 12:59 AM   #27
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Hey everyone. Just an update, I'm going to have to put a stop on my efforts temporarily due to nerve reconstruction recently done on my right hand. Once I get back to work and making money again I'll start a build thread!! See y'all in a month or so.
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Hey guys bad news. My mechanic and I believe that my motor has jumped timing. We haven't gone digging yet to see if it's repairable. Should it not be and since I'm a horsepower freak, is there a better vtec motor than the j30a5 3.0 v6 that would be a direct fit into my 04 accord v6 6mt? ?
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Old July 19th, 2014, 04:07 AM   #29
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Hey guys bad news. My mechanic and I believe that my motor has jumped timing. We haven't gone digging yet to see if it's repairable. Should it not be and since I'm a horsepower freak, is there a better vtec motor than the j30a5 3.0 v6 that would be a direct fit into my 04 accord v6 6mt? ?
j35, j32, whatever you can afford.

The motor jumping timing is no reason to get rid of it though... i mean that's a quick fix compared to a rebuild or even head or cam swap.
Seriously if that's all that's wrong with the engine i'll buy it off you.
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Old July 19th, 2014, 05:16 AM   #30
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Might be head damage. U should buy my cylinder heads ;p
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