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Old October 27th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #1
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Performance Tire Recommendations ?

This is just getting ridiculous now...grandma shifting into second & It's like I'm driving in the rain 24/7....it grips second then breaks traction again shortly after. 60-70% thread wear left on Potenza re11a which was super sticky in beginning. Lil over 10k miles and 3 oil changes now we here wtf lol
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Old October 27th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #2
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Your not going to beat those tires unless you get drag tires. But if it's cold outside that's your problem. I have no traction if it's in the 60's without Sun. If the sun is out I'm ok. 40-50 bad 30 and below is stupid..
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This is just getting ridiculous now...grandma shifting into second & It's like I'm driving in the rain 24/7....it grips second then breaks traction again shortly after. 60-70% thread wear left on Potenza re11a which was super sticky in beginning. Lil over 10k miles and 3 oil changes now we here wtf lol
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your problem is stretching them like stance people. 225/45 are meant for 7 or 7.5 rims. 235 45 17 TL size comes with 8. Get 255/40/17. ad08r if u arent allowed r comps or get r888.
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your problem is stretching them like stance people. 225/45 are meant for 7 or 7.5 rims. 235 45 17 TL size comes with 8. Get 255/40/17. ad08r if u arent allowed r comps or get r888.

Thanks for the honesty....yea i was trying my best to avoid that extra rotational mass of bigger tire sizes. However I think it's time to bump it too 235/45/17 at least & see from there. Gonna see price and reviews on those tires u recommended. Thanks again
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Old October 27th, 2014, 08:30 PM   #5
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Your not going to beat those tires unless you get drag tires. But if it's cold outside that's your problem. I have no traction if it's in the 60's without Sun. If the sun is out I'm ok. 40-50 bad 30 and below is stupid..

I will post it again on a hot 91 degree weather, trust me on this
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Old October 27th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #6
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I have a set of re11a 235/45 17 on 8.5 rpf1 and older ad08 on 255/35/18 on 9.5 nt03 and the 255 are much much better even though they are old. U have 9 inch rims so take that width advantage
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Old October 27th, 2014, 09:42 PM   #7
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With these styles of tires how is the grip if you are just normal driving and then mash them? Just wondering if you have to heat them up to get some traction, or if the regular compound under normal driving sticks more then regular street tires.
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Old October 27th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #8
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Its good in the summer. Now its getting to be around 32-40 f and it sucks in the morning when u want to male a pull immediately. Heat stays in the tire pretty well
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Old October 27th, 2014, 10:07 PM   #9
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Wider tires for you is a must. I would do 235/45s or even 245/45s, honestly.
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Old October 27th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #10
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Need an all season tire when its cold, even in places like north Texas.
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Old October 27th, 2014, 10:52 PM   #11
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Tire shop says 245 is too wide. I think they are full of it. Ive been looking to upgrade my fronts and this Jiga21 post may seal the deal for me. I am running 225/40/18 now. Looking to go wider for sure and cut the inner fender out plus lift the car a bit if needed.

What have you guys seen ran? I am a tire noob.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 06:27 AM   #12
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Hey, just fyi wider isn't always better.. For acceleration you want a longer tire patch, not a wider one. Wider is for turns. Look at top fuel cars. When they actually start moving the tire patch isn't very wide, but it is very long.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 06:30 AM   #13
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Hey, just fyi wider isn't always better.. For acceleration you want a longer tire patch, not a wider one. Wider is for turns. Look at top fuel cars. When they actually start moving the tire patch isn't very wide, but it is very long.
Not true. Drag race has some class limit based on slick width to limit their traction.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 06:31 AM   #14
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Need an all season tire when its cold, even in places like north Texas.
Summer tires will still outperform when they have heat in them.
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Not true. Drag race has some class limit based on slick width to limit their traction.
Why is taller better than wider? 1) Taller tires have a longer footprint that is in line with
the pull of the wheel. 2) The part of a tire that normally loses grip is smaller on a tall tire.
3) A contact point on a tall tire is in touch with the ground for a longer time than a wide
tire. 4) Taller tires have a longer patch to conform to the structure of the ground therefore
has better grip.


#1 is the big one here. it applies the same for wider tires and turning.
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Why is taller better than wider? 1) Taller tires have a longer footprint that is in line with
the pull of the wheel. 2) The part of a tire that normally loses grip is smaller on a tall tire.
3) A contact point on a tall tire is in touch with the ground for a longer time than a wide
tire. 4) Taller tires have a longer patch to conform to the structure of the ground therefore
has better grip.


#1 is the big one here. it applies the same for wider tires and turning.
taller tires reduces torque like a taller drive ratio.

the contact patch is determined by psi.

maybe u are saying all drag racers should get some light truck tire then for ultimate drag racing??
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taller tires reduces torque like a taller drive ratio.

the contact patch is determined by psi.

maybe u are saying all drag racers should get some light truck tire then for ultimate drag racing??
There is a sweet spot that has to be found between width and length. Obviously you don't want a 175/80/16 tire. However a 205-215/60 is probably ideal. However the problem is you can't find a tire in that size that has a sticky compound. so what do you do, go to a wider smaller profile tire. But a 225/60 drag tire will cut better 60' than a 255/40 drag tire.
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From what I've seen, finding a balance between sidewall height and width of the tire is optimal. Yes a taller tire will affect the gearing, but not horribly. If you watch a slow motion launch on slicks, you will see the sidewall crease. This is very important because it shows soft, but relatively large sidewalls are more effective for drag racing.

No one is talking about truck tires, don't be silly.
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Old October 28th, 2014, 02:14 PM   #19
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245-45 Federal Evo's on 17x9's. Even worn 70% they still grip 2nd (NA) pretty damn good. 1st doesn't break loose but a little, and it's slamming second which breaks them loose. Overall I was happy with them.

AT 70% worn, it's time for new tires and I'll be buying the Mickey Thompson Street Comps. (245-45). They are not directional which is a big plus for me. LS guys putting down 450+WHP use them and dead hook if they bring pressure down to 25psi
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245-45 Federal Evo's on 17x9's. Even worn 70% they still grip 2nd (NA) pretty damn good. 1st doesn't break loose but a little, and it's slamming second which breaks them loose. Overall I was happy with them.

AT 70% worn, it's time for new tires and I'll be buying the Mickey Thompson Street Comps. (245-45). They are not directional which is a big plus for me. LS guys putting down 450+WHP use them and dead hook if they bring pressure down to 25psi
You should definitely be fine but it is worth mentioning that hooking in a fwd car is way different, obviously. You may be able to hook in a 450whp camaro, and spin in a 350whp car. Fwd ftl
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Old October 28th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #21
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I run 235/40/18 all day long....

no fender modification required...


also I am lowered on Tein coilovers...
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^ baseball bat rolled the rear maybe a 1/2", and 1/4 on front (still rub on hard dips) but I'm pretty much slammed now.

Only traction issue I have NA is 1st from a launch, right off the line. If I punch it in first its fine. I lock the rear (adjustable coilovers) and she sticks. I used to spin like Jiga on stock suspension and 225 tires
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I have the above issues on 225/50s all season Kumhos. I can be an idiot in first and shifting into second if I want...but except for the top of first or launch do I rarely break loose.
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Old October 29th, 2014, 04:46 AM   #24
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I have similar issues on my tires, they worked fine on my previous car, only difference than stock is they were a little taller. When it thinks about rain, it slides and spins like Ice. I have noticed it seems to be getting worse the cooler it gets in the dry temps and hitting the brakes. Starting to squeal when I hit the brakes hard.

Glad to knwo im not the only one. Im going to look at finding another set of rims and find a different set of tires. I have Yokohamas (Spelling?) and had Kuhmos (SP?) before that (came when I got the car) and they did the same thing in the rain.
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Summer tires will still outperform when they have heat in them.
They will if you don't mind spinning the tires for a block when you pull out into traffic quickly in the morning.
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I forgot to add the Federal Evos are NOT good at all in the rain. They are a high performance summer tire, believe me when I say these hydro plane every 5 sec. on the interstate and its not fun. I actually slid over two lane with them one time, no control at all.
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I used to not spin at all in 1st until I got the FD on General GMAX AS-03 215/55/17. The extra sidewall definitely helps. But now with the FD I spin 1st and 2nd, although not NEARLY as bad.
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I like my BF Goodrich Sport Comp2 tires. Next time I'm upping the size to 235/45/17 and going with Michelin Pilot Super Sport.
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Old October 29th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #29
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anyone think mentioning the BFG Rival or Conti procontact would be above others mentioned here like federal evo and potenzas?

Rival would and will be my personal choice.
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I keep reading about tire noise. On the R888 everyone says they are really noisy. Any experience?
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