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Old April 21st, 2004, 11:18 PM   #1
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Brake Torquing

For Autos, when you brake torque the highest the rpm can go is a little bit below 2K, is there a way to break that, so that you can control how high you rpm goes when bake torqing. Kind of like a drop from neutral.. but wihtout actually having to do that.
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Old April 21st, 2004, 11:44 PM   #2
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how would that work.. sorry I haven't reallly researched this.. so yah
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Old April 22nd, 2004, 02:21 PM   #3
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Basically it would be pointless to do...
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Old April 22nd, 2004, 07:27 PM   #4
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It would be great to do for performance, don't know why you say it would be pointless. Can't say it'd be much fun for a daily driver though.
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 05:53 PM   #5
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Re: Brake Torquing

odd question...but why would you want to do that?

launching from the line in an auto using BT doesn't get you much if anything but a delay in my Accord.

heck, I can stomp it and spin them on dry pavement, so power off the line isn't an issue...not for me.

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For Autos, when you brake torque the highest the rpm can go is a little bit below 2K, is there a way to break that, so that you can control how high you rpm goes when bake torqing. Kind of like a drop from neutral.. but wihtout actually having to do that.
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 06:04 PM   #6
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Yah i know... it seems like braking torquing slows me down off the launch too... but everyone says ur suppose to break torque... and i though.. if u launch at like 4k rpm it would make a huge difference.
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and i though.. if u launch at like 4k rpm it would make a huge difference.
It would. Your accord would probably hit very low 14's. But a convertor that stalls at 4000rpm would mean every time you hit the gas the engine revs up to 4000rpm before you really start moving.

Brake torqueing is used because it puts the revs up higher in the powerband where there is more torque. Your car will respond slightly quicker by doing this. How much so I have no idea.
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 07:07 PM   #8
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Basically it would be pointless to do...


I guess that's why a lot of musclecar guys put in higher stall torque converters then. Because it's pointless and they don't wanna go faster.
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Old April 23rd, 2004, 09:55 PM   #9
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i heard that brake torquing can heat the torque converter pretty bad. What parts can be damage when this is done exactly?
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Old April 24th, 2004, 04:39 PM   #10
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i heard that brake torquing can heat the torque converter pretty bad. What parts can be damage when this is done exactly?
You are correct. This puts a huge load on the torque convertor because of all the slipping. Slipping = friction = heat. When the fluid overheats, the clutches start slipping. Eventually the fluid breaks down and forms deposits and stops lubing up the tranny, and your tranny dies.
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I've been playing around with BT since I got my oil change last week and there is no delay in my car. Actually, if I don't BT and just floor-it off the line I can feel my tires claw for traction and then bog a little (yes, TCS was off). Meanwhile, if I BT OR give it 1/2 - 3/4 throttle off the line I get spin. I think BT is the way to go, I just need to play with it more. I blew 2 trannies in 2 of my previous 3 cars....so I'm a bit hesitant to go crazy with BT. I didn't even try it at the track last season. I just gave it enough throttle on the 3rd yellow to induce spin and then floored it. I should be going again soon so I'll post any interesting findings within a month or so.
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