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Old June 9th, 2004, 09:57 AM   #1
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Clutch or lightwiehgt flywheel

Does anyone know if there is a lightwieght flywheel and/or performance clutch in the works for the 7th gen v6's.
or if there is one for the acuras that might work.
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Old June 9th, 2004, 12:15 PM   #2
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I think Fidanza has a flywheel out already and someone else I just forgot who, as also Centerforce has a clutch for us and Exedy is releasing one very soon. Hope that helps!
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That helps a lot you just made my day. Do you know any websites that might be selling those if not i can probably track one down thanks again though.
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i don't know but it might work for your car -> http://www.comptechusa.com/store/510130.html

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No problem!
I will try to look one up for ya! Myself I was thinking of getting one too, but not for another couple of weeks though cause I just bought some rims.
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and what exacly do you want a light weight flywheel for?
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ok, so im looking around for the centerforce clutche, and cant find anything available for the 03-04 accord........am i blind?
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and what exacly do you want a light weight flywheel for?
pros: better throttle response, quicker acceleration

cons: more difficult to drive
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I can't seem to find the clutch or the flywheel except for the comptech one if anyone could find the website where this is available this would be very helpful i have searched high and low and can't find anything.

Another pro to a lightweight flywheel is that it reduces engine wear by not making the crank work so hard along with the faster acceleration.
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For fun I e-mailed comptech about the acura clutch. They said they haven't tried it on an accord, but it would probably work. They said if I lived in north cali (which I don't), they would give me a deal if they could use me as a test car. So if anyone is interested.....
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I don't think a lighter flywheel is going to lower engine wear. Microfinishing engine internal surfaces, minimizing reciprocating mass, and using lightweight low inertia valvetrains among other things are what reduce engine wear, not a flywheel.

Additional cons of lighter flywheels: Jerky cruising since there's much less intertial mass to keep the engine spinning during coast. Also due to that, likely poorer fuel mileage. With less mass to keep the engine spinning at zero or part throttle, that means you need to use more gas to maintain cruise. So expect poorer fuel mileage. You won't necessarily get better 1/4 mile times, either. When you shift at redline with the stock flywheel, you'll dump a large amount of inertial energy to the wheels on top of WOT from the engine as you go into the next gear. The energy from the heavy spinning flywheel has to go somewhere as it's slammed into the next gear, so it goes to the tires. With a lightened flywheel there isn't nearly as much of an "inertial dump" on hard shifts so it might even seem like it bogs compared to stock.

Where a lightened flywheel will help you: It'll help you for maximum "in-gear" acceleration and deceleration. If you're going around an autocross in pretty much 2nd gear, a lightweight flywheel will help. You get maximum acceleration in 2nd, and maximum deceleration from engine braking in 2nd. It also helps the NASCAR guys who run around the tracks all day in 4th gear. As for 1/4 mile, it's not necessarily going to help, and might even hurt you.
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Hi! Sorry I made mistake the flywheel is actually made by ACT.
I will try to find the link for the clutch too.
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thanks man I appreciate the help with this.
I will start looking around for it too.
thanks again for all your help
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Additional cons of lighter flywheels: Jerky cruising since there's much less intertial mass to keep the engine spinning during coast. Also due to that, likely poorer fuel mileage. With less mass to keep the engine spinning at zero or part throttle, that means you need to use more gas to maintain cruise. So expect poorer fuel mileage.
Based on my experience I'm going to have to disagree with that one. I'm currently driving a 1.8T A4 with, amoung other things, a 12 lb flywheel (the stock one is 25lb) and sport clutch. I have experienced no penalty in gas mileage cruising over long distances...my car is a 97, chipped/exhaust with about 137K on the clock and it still gets ~29-30mpg on the highway. In fact unless you're accelerating or decelerating the fact that there's a lighter flywheel there is relatively transparent as long as one knows how to drive relatively smoothly, at least with a 1.8L audi, which I'd assume would have less internal inertia than a 3.0L Honda. Hence i really don't think that a competent driver would see a loss of gas mileage or freeway driveability due to a lightweight flywheel, and the fun of a quicker-revving engine is definately worth the little bit of extra skill that is required to launch it.

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I use stock weight flywheels for a reason Light weight flywheels are only nice if like steve said you plan on autocrossing or to be at high revs all the time. For low rpm daily driving light weight flywheels aren't so nice.
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Based on my experience I'm going to have to disagree with that one. I'm currently driving a 1.8T A4 with, amoung other things, a 12 lb flywheel (the stock one is 25lb) and sport clutch. I have experienced no penalty in gas mileage cruising over long distances...my car is a 97, chipped/exhaust with about 137K on the clock and it still gets ~29-30mpg on the highway. In fact unless you're accelerating or decelerating the fact that there's a lighter flywheel there is relatively transparent as long as one knows how to drive relatively smoothly, at least with a 1.8L audi, which I'd assume would have less internal inertia than a 3.0L Honda. Hence i really don't think that a competent driver would see a loss of gas mileage or freeway driveability due to a lightweight flywheel, and the fun of a quicker-revving engine is definately worth the little bit of extra skill that is required to launch it.

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Just out of curiousity does your car have a MPG calculator or did you test it yourself?
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Based on my experience I'm going to have to disagree with that one. I'm currently driving a 1.8T A4 with, amoung other things, a 12 lb flywheel (the stock one is 25lb) and sport clutch. I have experienced no penalty in gas mileage cruising over long distances...my car is a 97, chipped/exhaust with about 137K on the clock and it still gets ~29-30mpg on the highway. In fact unless you're accelerating or decelerating the fact that there's a lighter flywheel there is relatively transparent as long as one knows how to drive relatively smoothly, at least with a 1.8L audi, which I'd assume would have less internal inertia than a 3.0L Honda. Hence i really don't think that a competent driver would see a loss of gas mileage or freeway driveability due to a lightweight flywheel, and the fun of a quicker-revving engine is definately worth the little bit of extra skill that is required to launch it.

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That's fine. My driving style is very relaxed though and when I see that the light is red up ahead I back off and just coast in even if I'm a 1/4 mile away. My nice heavy flywheel keeps me coasting all the way up to the light.

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When you shift at redline with the stock flywheel, you'll dump a large amount of inertial energy to the wheels on top of WOT from the engine as you go into the next gear. The energy from the heavy spinning flywheel has to go somewhere as it's slammed into the next gear, so it goes to the tires. With a lightened flywheel there isn't nearly as much of an "inertial dump" on hard shifts so it might even seem like it bogs compared to stock.
but when you think about it, that extra inertia was gained when you were in gear. so any extra chirping you are getting during shifts was at the cost of marginally slower acceleration in gear.

personally, even though i like chirping gears... i think it would be easier on the drivetrain to have that extra bit of oomph applied over the range of a gear, instead of suddenly like when you chirp. not only is the power applied to moving the car in a prior point in time, but it is also more efficient as the tires are under traction.

of course, the fact that you can store more energy with a heavier flywhere when you rev up before launching may negate this effect.
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Just out of curiousity does your car have a MPG calculator or did you test it yourself?
No MPG calculator (it's an early A4 - no trip computer). I keep a running log in the car as I'm anal about such things. The only mod I did to the A4 that had any effect on the mileage was the chip, and that actually raised the average mpg by ~1.5.

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If you cant adjust to driving a vehicle with a lighter flywheel, then you shouldn't be driving stick. Hearing all these noobs whine about how BIG of a affect it has is annoying. Those noobs that actually drive a car with a lighter flywheel make the adjustments easily and LOVE it.

Owning a honda for years now...I hear the same crap about lighter flywheels a million times already. Imo, a lighter flywheel is one of the first mods you should do if you have a manual transmission vehicle. The difference is night and day. I'm not good with words so I cant technically describe the differences so all I can say is you will love it.

I have a 6.75 lb flywheel on my integra and the stock is 15 lbs. This is the first mod I did to my car and the only mod so far.
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If you cant adjust to driving a vehicle with a lighter flywheel, then you shouldn't be driving stick. Hearing all these noobs whine about how BIG of a affect it has is annoying. Those noobs that actually drive a car with a lighter flywheel make the adjustments easily and LOVE it.
Wait, so since I said I don't like them and steve said he dosen't like them, that makes US noobs?

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only the truest of n00bs calls a senior member a noob... much less an engineer.

watch out kiddies. just because it costs more doesn't mean it's necessarily better. case in point.

with that said, i DO prefer the feel of a lighter flywheel. however, this opinion is solely based on personal preference.

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Ok, six years later....lol. I am a self proclaimed n00b at tuning. I have a 2006 Accord V6 6mt. I understand the j30a5 is not the ideal platform for tuning; however it is what I have so... I was excited when I came across SPEC with their flywheel and multiple stages of clutches to choose from, and the idea of internal modifications and powertrain upgrades became more a reality than a fantasy. Then I came across this thread, and am left wondering if my ideas of modifying my sleeper are false grandeur or if there is anything new out there that I haven't found yet to make it come true. any help would be appreciated.
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Old August 19th, 2011, 09:25 AM   #26
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it's a personal choice based on how you drive and your choice of pedal feel...

if you don't have any power adders or a lot of bolt ons ..I think the stock clutch is the way to go....


I like the clutchmasters clutch and the tilton dual pressure plate clutch...
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I heard bad things about spec. I got the exedy clutch and oem flywheel and I love it. I heard many go with the clutchmasters stage 3 for mods.
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SPEC clutches IMO....they just look fancy visually that's all...

Go with a OEM or EXEDY or a Clutch masters Stage 3 or a TILTON dual pressure plate clutch
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My j36 wont grab gears if you're shifting hard from redline. I was told from one of my friends that its the pressure plate? Not too sure how accurate that is but he is a master tech. It actually slips pretty hard which made me think its the clutch but I honestly don't know what would fix it.
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do you have the slave delete mod?

if so he is correct...
if not...
your problem is the restrictor valve...
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