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Old August 18th, 2004, 10:40 PM   #1
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any turbo kits ??

hey i was jw is there any turbo kits out or that are gonna be out for the 2003 accord ex 6-speed ??
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Old August 18th, 2004, 11:11 PM   #2
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Nope...

I haven't heard of a turbo kit for this car at all. Comptech is coming out with a really sweet supercharger kit by the end of the year, around Christmas time. I personally would wait for that. Not only will this kit be safer on your engine than a turbo, but the supercharger kit will be CARB aproved (meaning, it won't negate your car warranty!!)
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do u know how much they are gonna be ?? also how much hp and tq is that suppose to get u up to ?
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I haven't heard of a turbo kit for this car at all. Comptech is coming out with a really sweet supercharger kit by the end of the year, around Christmas time. I personally would wait for that. Not only will this kit be safer on your engine than a turbo, but the supercharger kit will be CARB aproved (meaning, it won't negate your car warranty!!)
The Comptech S/C will NOT be out by Christmas. Or wait, maybe it will be. Did they say "which" Christmas? They probably meant Christmas 2005

Secondly, CARB means it'll pass and meet emissions requirements for California. It does not have anything to do with the warranty. It most certainly WILL void the warranty if you nuke some axles, the differential, your clutch, or even the engine due to having a blower hooked up.
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on what steve said... i was just about to post the same thing.. lol..
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Old August 19th, 2004, 06:42 AM   #6
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They say the gains are about the same as the 6th gen. 40-60 whp. Personally id just spend the extra money on a custom turbo. But besides custom turbo they arent going to be making any turbo kits because the V6 headers are welded to the block.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 10:34 AM   #7
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do u guys know how much the supercharger might be ?? and also i have a couple question about the 2003 av6 ex 6-speed before i get one.... how much do they wiegh ? how much torque do they have ?? also can it beat a boosted rsx type-s with a cybernation motorsports stage 1 turbo kit with this kit the rsx type-s will have 300whp.... thanx for all the help guys im a newb to this car because i was searchin on the rsx but i like the style and horsepower of this car better
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The Accord v6 s speed weighs in at about 3,300 lbs. It has 240 Hp and 212 Pound feet of torque. A stock Rsx Type S runs a 1/4 mile in 15.1 seconds, while the accord 6 speed does the same distance somewhere between 14.6-14.7. My best time on the track was a 14.64 @ 101.3 MPH. Yet, with a custom turbo in the Acura, I am quite certain the Accord would rest in peace...

In all honesty, I would get an accord. An RSX is slow as hell, and it doesn't look NEARLY as good or have NEARLY the same power as an accord. In an accord, your driving a really sophisticated, mature, and "grown up" car. With an RSX, your driving a slow, noisy kids car.

I hope this helps, and good luck on your search!
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well what about the accord v6 w/ comptech supercharger, aem v2, apexi grounding system, greddy evo2 dual exhaust against the the rsx type-s w/cybernation stage 1 turbo kit, custom 3in exhaust
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well what about the accord v6 w/ comptech supercharger, aem v2, apexi grounding system, greddy evo2 dual exhaust against the the rsx type-s w/cybernation stage 1 turbo kit, custom 3in exhaust
Far too many variables in there to give you a good estimate on times and power.

Your best bet will be to go with whatever is within your budget. The current supercharger that Comptech has for the Accord V6 / Acura CL & TL is around $4500. I am sure it will be about the same for the new generation of Accords.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 11:57 AM   #11
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do u guys know how much the supercharger might be ?? and also i have a couple question about the 2003 av6 ex 6-speed before i get one.... how much do they wiegh ? how much torque do they have ??
geez come on, lol

- www.hondacars.com
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- pickup a brochure at your local honda dealer

why are you asking basic stuff like this on a forum when you can look it up yourself in about 2 seconds.

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also can it beat a boosted rsx type-s with a cybernation motorsports stage 1 turbo kit with this kit the rsx type-s will have 300whp.... thanx for all the help guys im a newb to this car because i was searchin on the rsx but i like the style and horsepower of this car better
uhh....what kind of "stage 1" turbo kit puts out 300 whp. A stock RSX-S does like what, 170 whp? Maybe they meant crank horsepower. Either way, that much boost on a high compression RSX-S engine probably won't hold together for long. And that much power means a big turbo with LOTS of LAG. Accord would probably win from a dead stop and in a 1/4 mile race. But by the time the RSX gets its turbo solidly spooled up around 70 it would probably be a killer with whatever power it had (not 300 whp)
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Old August 19th, 2004, 12:20 PM   #12
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more food for thought. If you want to beat 300 whp imports, just get something that already has that much power stock. How bout a 98-02 LS1 F-body (Camaro/Firebird). About 320 whp and equal torque stock. Low-13's @ 107-109 mph in the 6spd, and mid/high-13's in the mid-100 range for the 4spd automatic. Heck, you could even get a used C5 Vette for around the same price as a new RSX-S or Accord 6spd. And with a 300 whp modified non-factory boosted import, there goes all of your reliability. The domestic iron will be more reliable. 99-04 Mustang GT's would be worth considering too, and about 1sec slower than the LS1's. That's the base version though. Then there's the DOHC Cobra versions.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 02:19 PM   #13
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Yeah but with those domestic cars you will pass everything but a gas station. I will wave back while the guy with the LS1 engine is filling up on 93+ octain.
a) an LS1 GTO will get 29 mpg hwy with the 6spd, which is barely any worse than an RSX-S (link)
b) it also has nearly double the power: 320 rwhp/rwtq vs 170 fwhp and like 2 tq?
c) an LS1 only needs 87 octane.
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a) an LS1 GTO will get 29 mpg hwy with the 6spd, which is barely any worse than an RSX-S (link)
b) it also has nearly double the power: 320 rwhp/rwtq vs 170 fwhp and like 2 tq?
c) an LS1 only needs 87 octane.

I think the bottom line is that if you want a car simply for power, go get a 350Z (if you want import), or like SteVTEC said, go get an LS1. If you want a little more luxury and refinement, get the Accord V6 6speed. It is more of a balance of quality interior, gas mileage, and its quick! LS1s are meant for speed!
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BTW, is it true new GTOs are running low 14s, high 13s? I thought theyd be much quicker with an LS1! Weight Im guessing?!
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its 310 at the crank and the GTO is about 3600 lbs but is still a killer car. But for the Price i'd go with a Firebird Trnas-Am i like the sound of 310 crank power. mmmm power.
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Old August 19th, 2004, 03:13 PM   #17
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LS1's are pretty much all 345-355 crank horsepower. They were under-rated to 300-310 in the F-body's to separate them from the vette for marketing reasons, but they all had about the same power.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...stock+GTO+dyno

Looks like 6spd LS1 GTO's are dynoing at around 290-300 rwhp. A little more power is sucked up in the independent rear end vs the live axle from the camaro/f-bird. 350 hp/tq at the wheels on a stock LS2 GTO. oh baby.
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The Comptech S/C will NOT be out by Christmas. Or wait, maybe it will be. Did they say "which" Christmas? They probably meant Christmas 2005

Secondly, CARB means it'll pass and meet emissions requirements for California. It does not have anything to do with the warranty. It most certainly WILL void the warranty if you nuke some axles, the differential, your clutch, or even the engine due to having a blower hooked up.

well, naturally, buying a supercharger and then turning your engine into spagetti would most certainly void ANY warranty. Simply putting a Comptech superchager in your car, however, does not. Do not challenge me on this one. Comptech knows me on a first name basis, so any "info" about their products are known facts for me.
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well, naturally, buying a supercharger and then turning your engine into spagetti would most certainly void ANY warranty. Simply putting a Comptech superchager in your car, however, does not. Do not challenge me on this one. Comptech knows me on a first name basis, so any "info" about their products are known facts for me.
what you say might be true... that putting in a supercharger will not void the engine warranty.. HOWEVER.. what do you care for warranty until you actually turn the engine into spagetti???
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Warranty

Just in case anybody wants accurate information about warranties, you need to read the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act. Do a search on any major search engine, and you'll get a few hundered thousand links. It was passed in 1975 and became US Code - Title 15, Chapter 50, Sections 2301-2312. Basically, the pertinant part says that a manufacturer cannot void a warranty on a vehicle because of installation of an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the installation was improperly done, or that the aftermarket part itself caused or contributed to the failure of the vehicle. That wouldn't be hard to prove with a blower, assuming you break part of your drivetrain.

Also, it's worth noting that Comptech can tell you anything they want about their product, but since they're not providing the factor warranty, they really don't have much say in the matter. Putting in a S/C would not void any warranties, but actually using one could.

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well, naturally, buying a supercharger and then turning your engine into spagetti would most certainly void ANY warranty. Simply putting a Comptech superchager in your car, however, does not. Do not challenge me on this one. Comptech knows me on a first name basis, so any "info" about their products are known facts for me.
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Bumb all yalls domestic crap if you want power european kicks all domestics asses!!! i had a plan that would smoke a supercharged or most likely turbode v8. the lotus elise and hang with a stock f-bird or camero ss. If supercharged and upgraded pullies your looking at 250 to 300hp out of a car that weighs 1900lbs if you get the us model and around 1850 for european model. stock the car has 190hp out of the toyota celica gts engine, but lotus has changed a few items in its fuel system giving it the extra 10hp and a stronger midrange! i dont care if you think my info is wrong cause if you dont believe me email any lotus specialist and you will see what im saying. also lotus is a better car at cornering than a domestic will ever be for those people who are like me and dont care so much for 1/4 mile and more for the real track racing. that was going to be my plan until i got stuck with a hammy down accord which isnt the worst thing in the world dont get me wrong i love the car but if i had my own choice that lotus would have been in my garage in 2 years!
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oh yeah i forgot gto's are overrated they are slows as crap for their hp rating
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well, naturally, buying a supercharger and then turning your engine into spagetti would most certainly void ANY warranty. Simply putting a Comptech superchager in your car, however, does not. Do not challenge me on this one. Comptech knows me on a first name basis, so any "info" about their products are known facts for me.
My implied statement was that adding an S/C is going to pretty much void your powertrain warranty. But if your rear window defroster goes out, a dealership can't say your "entire" warranty is void and refuse to fix your defroster while pointing to your supercharger.
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Bumb all yalls domestic crap if you want power european kicks all domestics asses!!!
Since when? Sure you can get power from Europe, for double or even TRIPLE the price. Americans are the KINGS of cheap horsepower.

Your plan for the Lotus is on the right track - power to weight is what matters. But if you don't care about 1/4 mile or acceleration, why would you care so much about power and beating everything?

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oh yeah i forgot gto's are overrated they are slows as crap for their hp rating
mid/high-13's are slow? There are Supras out there with 700hp that still only run 12's, so I guess they're REALLY slow for their hp ratings, eh? So what "should" the GTO's be running such that it wouldn't be "slow" for its hp rating?
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tch. throw the TRD supercharger on the elise, and THEN you've got one helluva beast. and no turbo lag to make it twitchier than it already is. shiatttttt.
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mid/high-13's are slow? There are Supras out there with 700hp that still only run 12's, so I guess they're REALLY slow for their hp ratings, eh? So what "should" the GTO's be running such that it wouldn't be "slow" for its hp rating?
I dont wanan start an argument but I havent seen many mid 13 second runs from the GTO owners, I went over to LS1.com and even checked there, a couple guys were even saying they were dissappointed with their track times (13.8s-14.0s). Nonetheless, I believe they are a tad slow for the power they have, Id rather just buy a Camaro or T/A! Maybe thats why sales are so low for them? As for 700HP Supras running 12s, maybe, but on stock tires and a bad driver. And if they did it would be something like [email protected]
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I dont wanan start an argument but I havent seen many mid 13 second runs from the GTO owners, I went over to LS1.com and even checked there, a couple guys were even saying they were dissappointed with their track times (13.8s-14.0s). Nonetheless, I believe they are a tad slow for the power they have, Id rather just buy a Camaro or T/A! Maybe thats why sales are so low for them? As for 700HP Supras running 12s, maybe, but on stock tires and a bad driver. And if they did it would be something like [email protected]

I agree with you on this one. Any Pontiac GTO owner who is running a 14 second quarter mile time clearly does NOT KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. This particular car does 0-60 somewhere between 4.8-5.0 seconds, faster than a Mustang GT, Subaru WRX, and even an SS Camero. So for that kind of a wicked start off the line, how can a car POSSIBLY not make it into the 13's???
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