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Old November 4th, 2004, 07:01 PM   #1
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Short Ram or Regular CAI?

I just bought a K&N Typhoon and the usual pictures at cardomain showed the filter right next to the engine and in plain view. But when I was reading the instructions I noticed the the system tucks away almost by the view and is not in view. What are the differences in each setup? Would there be any performance differences from either having the short ram or the complete CAI? Any help would be much apprechiated to a first time modder.
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Old November 4th, 2004, 07:17 PM   #2
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the cai will give you a little more power due to colder denser air found behind the bumper. The short ram will be safer in areas where flooding is a problem, but will still give you a little more power.
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Old November 4th, 2004, 09:52 PM   #3
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Just got k&n on ebay for $100.00 shipped. MGIBBS007 is correct. You'll like it being in So. Cal.. I heard itwill rain again this weekend so should probably start with shortram.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 06:46 AM   #4
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just because it's going to rain doesn't mean you need to avoid the cai. i have driven through really really bad rain storms with my injen cai, and not 1 problem for over a year.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 07:13 AM   #5
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just because it's going to rain doesn't mean you need to avoid the cai. i have driven through really really bad rain storms with my injen cai, and not 1 problem for over a year.
Yeah, you could probably use the full CAI with confidence. I installed my Injen in August about a week before all those rain storm came through Georgia (as a result of the hurricanes). It was the worst string of rainstorms I've ever seen too. I'm under the impression that you'd have to submerse, or nearly submerse the filter in water to have a problem. I may be wrong, but IMO I think you'd be ok.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 09:22 AM   #6
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You are correct kramer- you have to FULLY submerge the filter in order to waterlock the engine. How often are you driving through 2-3ft deep puddles? Even if you do drive through a deep puddle just completely let off the gas and coast through it. The only way you'll suck water into the engine is if the throttle body is open and trying to pull air in.

CAIs not only give more power, but they also don't heatsoak (when you drive your car for a long time or drive it hard the engine bay heats up and you'll be pulling warmer air into the engine which means less power).
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I have heard that a short ram is better! Also have heard that it sucks. IMO the CAI gets my approval for the most power!
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Old November 5th, 2004, 10:29 AM   #8
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I have heard that a short ram is better! Also have heard that it sucks. IMO the CAI gets my approval for the most power!
so now the question is.. Injen, AEM, or K&N CAI?
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I have the Injen! I wanted the V2 but it was not out yet and there was no way I was going to wait for it! Also the Injen is nicely polished when the V2 is painted or something! K&N I have no idea about it so I really couldn't say.
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Injen. Any of them would be better than stock.
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Old November 5th, 2004, 12:42 PM   #11
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How has it been with you guys with the CAI?
Any issues of having to clean the filter so very often?

It just seems that the filter would get dirty so often from being so close to the ground.
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How has it been with you guys with the CAI?
Any issues of having to clean the filter so very often?

It just seems that the filter would get dirty so often from being so close to the ground.
I have already bought a new one and cleaned the old one so now they are interchangeable!!!
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Short rams have a shorter tube so there is more power up high(the engine doesnt have to work as hard pulling the air in through the length of the ube). Once you start moving, the temperature difference betweena short ram and cai have been measured , using a thermocouple, and were found to be negligable on the 6th gen's.
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Short rams have a shorter tube so there is more power up high(the engine doesnt have to work as hard pulling the air in through the length of the ube). Once you start moving, the temperature difference betweena short ram and cai have been measured , using a thermocouple, and were found to be negligable on the 6th gen's.

I heard something like that as well!
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Short rams have a shorter tube so there is more power up high(the engine doesnt have to work as hard pulling the air in through the length of the ube). Once you start moving, the temperature difference betweena short ram and cai have been measured , using a thermocouple, and were found to be negligable on the 6th gen's.
any idea on how this would effect the i4?
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