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Old December 6th, 2004, 04:11 AM   #1
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New Turbo Solution!! STS Turbo System

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Tired of waiting for Comptech to release the supercharger? Why go for supercharger when you can get turbo for same amount of price or even cheaper!!

Please check out this thread for more information, and cast your vote.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=44786

I want my turbo!! So please make 7gen the first group to be R&D.
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Old December 6th, 2004, 09:15 AM   #2
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Guys, v6p is working hard to get this stuff going, support them and vote and read the product threads. Thats the only way we can get new parts to you guys
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Old December 8th, 2004, 06:49 PM   #3
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how much hp are we talking about?
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Old December 8th, 2004, 07:57 PM   #4
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brex, are you a 6 speed?
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Old December 8th, 2004, 08:42 PM   #5
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nop.. but soon will be..
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Old December 12th, 2004, 12:12 PM   #6
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Is there any info on this turbo? Is it just an idea, or are they developing it already? Has anyone heard of this company or seen their work?
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Old December 12th, 2004, 01:35 PM   #7
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They've already developed a system for LS1 Firebirds and Camaros. It seems to be a pretty decent system, for the ease of install. The lag is worse than a traditional front mount turbo, but not horrible. From 3rd party results, it seems to be more effective on automatic cars.

The only beef I have with them though, is that their employees have a tendency to pose as customers on message boards, saying how great it is. I don't really understand why they do (or did) that, because the system seems to work! I know they did that on my car club's message board, and they were banned for it. If I remember right, they did it on LS1Tech as well.
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Old December 12th, 2004, 01:52 PM   #8
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4-banger compatible?
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Old January 3rd, 2005, 05:33 PM   #9
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how much harder is the install then a supercharger
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Old January 4th, 2005, 07:58 PM   #10
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=( no turbos for the I4's?? were the ones that need the boost!
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Old January 23rd, 2005, 10:14 PM   #11
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Turbo would be GREAT, but don't have the $$$$, and it's my wifes car... it's the "Family Sedan", haha -

Oh how awesome it would be!!!
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Old February 1st, 2005, 03:21 PM   #12
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I jus saw a trans-am with the sts turbo kit and a T-78 wasnt as fast as i expected 1/8mile=7.0 seconds

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Old February 10th, 2005, 09:38 PM   #13
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I'm in for it too, do we have a specific date?
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Old March 31st, 2005, 10:57 PM   #14
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brex what's going on with sts? it's april now and i'm getting antsy for a turbo!!!
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Old April 1st, 2005, 09:38 AM   #15
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wouldnt the turbo lag get worse on cars with less displacement and cylinders? i mean a trans-am is moving more air faster than an accord right?
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I know for reals. I think we all have hope for a turbo kit, and yet there's been not much on it. I've emailed them a couple of times, but they sent one almost as if it were an excuse. It said that they literally got hundreds of emails a day asking for a turbo for their car. They kind of avoided my question, which was, is it under development.
Comptech has the same reply everytime. I think they just cut and paste. And seeing their work on other accords, i'm not very impressed. Average of 46 hp to the wheels for the same price as that STS turbo. Now on the rsx or the integra, and even the s2000 they have some significant power gains. But i've read the timeslips for a supercharged s2000, and it was only 13.9.
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Old April 14th, 2005, 06:26 PM   #17
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\. But i've read the timeslips for a supercharged s2000, and it was only 13.9.

thats almost wat a stock s2000 can do
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Old May 15th, 2005, 11:02 PM   #18
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anyone heard anything lately.......need more powwweerrr!!!

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Old July 12th, 2005, 10:58 AM   #19
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Lets Get Some More Info On This!!!!! Im Really Interested
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Old November 21st, 2005, 04:56 AM   #20
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if they make this kit....it's better than nothing....fud it's prolly better than a supercharger...there's an old article in fast fords/muscle mustangs that might even agree with that.....I'll get the info and repost....my only beef with the sts product....and I'm not talking sh!t...I'm not familiar enough with there product...and I'm 100% that it works....but turbos are better than super chargers beacuse they use energy that is wasted by the engien to compress air into the intake...and thus require the injection of more fuel....some for air...more fuel....greater cylinder pressures...more friggin power....the energy used by there turbo comes in two forms we'll say kinetic and potnetial....sound familar...the kinetic energy is the velocity of the ext gasses moving throught the tubro...basically..the exhaust spinns a fan....but more importantly....there's a lot of heat that comes from the head.......heat is energy....if it wasn't...it prolly would hurt when you touched that electric stove... ....this heat energy is also used in the turbo...the turbo basically turns that heat energy into mechanical energy...which becomes the "power supply" that turns teh compressor wheel...


neat......huh?


now....lets say you have a s/c(supercharged) that's running 8 psi, and you have the same car turbo charged running 8 psi....which will make more power...logically the turbo set up will...why.....because it is not consuming power from the engine to produce power...the turbo is using energy already waste by the engine to produce power.....but...if the s/c isn't making as much power...it's not producing as much wear an tear on the motor.....wrong...probably creataing asmuch wera and tear on the motor....but since power is measured at the crank or the wheels.....no way of know exactly how much is comsummed by the s/c....granted in day they figured s/c's could consume as much as 70% they generated at the crank.....but even b4 that the auto industy thought turbo's were a waste of time(circa 1930).....until they were used on "high altitude" airplanes(planes that flew over like 30k feet, air thin up there...became a problem)but even still the s/c was alwasy much more kewler...and you could buy meth over the counter as pep pills...

no... I'm not.....man why does everyone think I'm mad at the world?!??!?!

anywho my point to this was...the sts product will work....and it should work well...but since turbo's run off of heat enrgy...the closer to the heat source the better...well the more effcient anyways.....but if you're in socal...and driving distance to LA... I will take care of any fee's required to test this system on a 7g accord 6 spd....well for the first person to approach and follow through anyways
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Old November 21st, 2005, 05:31 AM   #21
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Old November 21st, 2005, 05:33 AM   #22
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^ I was thinking the same thing
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Old November 21st, 2005, 05:40 AM   #23
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damn you all.........is it that obvious
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Old November 25th, 2005, 02:34 PM   #24
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Comptech SC kit for AV7...

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Guys..

Tired of waiting for Comptech to release the supercharger? Why go for supercharger when you can get turbo for same amount of price or even cheaper!!

Please check out this thread for more information, and cast your vote.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=44786

I want my turbo!! So please make 7gen the first group to be R&D.

I spoke to the owner of Comptech at the SEMA show and he said they have stopped all development on the kit. Turns out there are some packaging issues that make the kit too costly to make. The major obstacle is the fact the radiator outlet is in the way of the SC body. The 6G Accord radiator outlet is where the 7G radiator cap is now. This can't be overcome with less than a swapping of the radiator. If you can figure out if the 6G V6 radiator will fit the 7G, then the kit will probably work...
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Old November 25th, 2005, 07:42 PM   #25
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no maybe i'm losing it and just tired...but what does that have anything to do about the STS turbo....there is a whole other thread about the comptech one this is something totally different..
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if they make this kit....it's better than nothing....fud it's prolly better than a supercharger...there's an old article in fast fords/muscle mustangs that might even agree with that.....I'll get the info and repost....my only beef with the sts product....and I'm not talking sh!t...I'm not familiar enough with there product...and I'm 100% that it works....but turbos are better than super chargers beacuse they use energy that is wasted by the engien to compress air into the intake...and thus require the injection of more fuel....some for air...more fuel....greater cylinder pressures...more friggin power....the energy used by there turbo comes in two forms we'll say kinetic and potnetial....sound familar...the kinetic energy is the velocity of the ext gasses moving throught the tubro...basically..the exhaust spinns a fan....but more importantly....there's a lot of heat that comes from the head.......heat is energy....if it wasn't...it prolly would hurt when you touched that electric stove... ....this heat energy is also used in the turbo...the turbo basically turns that heat energy into mechanical energy...which becomes the "power supply" that turns teh compressor wheel...


neat......huh?


now....lets say you have a s/c(supercharged) that's running 8 psi, and you have the same car turbo charged running 8 psi....which will make more power...logically the turbo set up will...why.....because it is not consuming power from the engine to produce power...the turbo is using energy already waste by the engine to produce power.....but...if the s/c isn't making as much power...it's not producing as much wear an tear on the motor.....wrong...probably creataing asmuch wera and tear on the motor....but since power is measured at the crank or the wheels.....no way of know exactly how much is comsummed by the s/c....granted in day they figured s/c's could consume as much as 70% they generated at the crank.....but even b4 that the auto industy thought turbo's were a waste of time(circa 1930).....until they were used on "high altitude" airplanes(planes that flew over like 30k feet, air thin up there...became a problem)but even still the s/c was alwasy much more kewler...and you could buy meth over the counter as pep pills...

no... I'm not.....man why does everyone think I'm mad at the world?!??!?!

anywho my point to this was...the sts product will work....and it should work well...but since turbo's run off of heat enrgy...the closer to the heat source the better...well the more effcient anyways.....but if you're in socal...and driving distance to LA... I will take care of any fee's required to test this system on a 7g accord 6 spd....well for the first person to approach and follow through anyways

Interesting, yeah superchargers take a lot of power to run. An example of that would be the Ford GT its supercharger takes 100hp at full power. However I would think since the turbo runs off the exhaust gases the more you have the quicker you can spin the exhaust turnine and in turn compress the air quicker. But wouldn't colder air that is more dense do a better job of pushing the exhaust turbine blades, I nmean that heat is just wastes unless it can affect the air in a positive way. I think that the same would apply to the remote turbo systems that relocate the turbo where the muffler used to be or usually goes.

As for the superchargers not giving enough power on the Accords or the S2000 you can always get pulley upgrades which are, when compared to the cost of the supercharger an inexpensive upgrade that would "unleash" the full potential. In other words your making almost twice as much boost from an upgrade that cost less than $100.

Thats why we're all loooking foward to the twin turbo kit that Aiden is working on.
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Old March 12th, 2006, 08:14 PM   #27
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so anything about this sts kit yet????
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Are our Accord's engine block strong enough to handle Forced Induction?
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Are our Accord's engine block strong enough to handle Forced Induction?
Yes, they are. I would be more concerned with the pistons, rods and rings.
We already have Comptech supercharger kits available for the 6th gen and a twin turbo kit coming out for the 7th gen and eventually the 6th gen as well.
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so more worry for the components than the structure of the wall of the blocks?
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