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Old April 18th, 2005, 12:49 AM   #1
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AUTOS: D3, who does it?

I remember a thread like this way back when I signed up this site, but wanna see which auto 7th genners are using D3 now-a-days.

So we all know our 7th gens lack greatly in low-end torque, and D3 seems to be a good solution in a way for that.

I personally don't use it at all really, maybe once every so often, but I was using it today, and it just makes city driving so much more enjoyable.

Any consequences of using D3 for city driving? I mean I know popular answer is gas consumption, but when I think about it, I probably use more gas flooring my car try'na switch lanes or something.

Anyways, do any of you Autos out there use D3 or just use D?
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Old April 18th, 2005, 01:25 AM   #2
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i use all of em. d3 is the same up until around 40, but its nice to be in 3rd from 40-80. wouldn't recommend it for highway though, unless some biatch won't let you pass. then whoop it out, hit that vtec, hear that intake (if you've got it) snarl, and show em your tailpipes.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 01:25 AM   #3
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I use D3 all the time in traffic or city driving. Today I used not only D3 but 2 & 1 while driving thru Placerita, Sand & Little Tujunga Canyon Roads. I wish we had a way to lock out 5th gear so I could hold 4th for the higher speed mountain roads.

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im scared to use 1 and 2, i don't wanna give my tranny any excuse to die on me later on, lol.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 01:27 AM   #5
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I use D3 all the time in traffic or city driving. Today I used not only D3 but 2 & 1 while driving thru Placerita, Sand & Little Tujunga Canyon Roads. I wish we had a way to lock out 5th gear so I could hold 4th for the higher speed mountain roads.

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holy ****. define higher speed roads. 3rd goes all the way to 90+. jeeeeeez.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 06:56 AM   #6
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i had probs w/ 1 & 2, scared me from goin that low again. I use d3 in the city though.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 07:25 AM   #7
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I also use D3 when I get into town after I get off work. Going to work is no problem, no one is awake at 5:00am.

It is pretty fun to play around while in D3. The torque is readily available. I'm with King and TANE though, I'll stay as far away from 1 & 2 as I can.

I bet all you MT guys are jealous now?! What with all this D3 talk we've got going on!
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Yeah, I am the same as Kramer. I love the torque being ready when you want it. I also like D3 to slow myself down. The intake stays in sound range longer in D3 too. 1 and 2 can be problematic though. As far as the MT being jealous? mmmmmmm maybe not. but then again they wouldn't even know.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 01:21 PM   #9
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i use d3 everyday....and i use 1 and 2 a lot too. i love to use all the gears and shift manually. run that beast up to redline in 1st, shift to 2nd and really give it juice, makes a narly sound. scares people away.

i have thought of that though, all the shifting might catch up with out autos later on. ohh well, i won't have it anymore by then.
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205-215 lb ft of torque is low?

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Old April 18th, 2005, 01:46 PM   #11
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ok cool, glad to know a lot of people are using D3, gonna start using it more.

OwAce, is that to me?? Well it's not a secret our car could use more low-end torque, esp after intake and exhaust and stuff, seems like u lose more low-end, overall, i am \very very happy with the performance of my car.
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i like the performance, could always use more, but kinda miss having a manual now. probably won't get another auto. but it's quick and fun, so i do like it a lot too.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 04:10 PM   #13
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Note: don't use D2 to start from stop. Many people assume when you have it on D2, it shifts from 1 to 2. It does not do that. IF you have it on d2, it skips the 1st gear.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 04:48 PM   #14
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Note: don't use D2 to start from stop. Many people assume when you have it on D2, it shifts from 1 to 2. It does not do that. IF you have it on d2, it skips the 1st gear.
yea thats true, I was reading the owners manual to try and find out if it was okay to shift from 1-2-D3-D (to pretend you somewhat have MT) and I read about that D2 thing, and experienced it once when I backed out of my driveway, accidently put it in D2, floored it and LAGGED to pick up...
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Old April 18th, 2005, 05:12 PM   #15
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I bet all you MT guys are jealous now?! What with all this D3 talk we've got going on!
So jealous....


Makes me want an Auto....

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i use d3 everyday....and i use 1 and 2 a lot too. i love to use all the gears and shift manually. run that beast up to redline in 1st, shift to 2nd and really give it juice, makes a narly sound. scares people away.
Im the same way. I use d1 and d2 while going 1-4mph in the heart of D.C. rush hour traffic but i love my D3, the way it makes my CAI get attention and the way vtec kicks in ASAP and allows me to weave in and out of dangerously slow and annoying drivers.
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Old April 18th, 2005, 06:05 PM   #17
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I'll use D3 from 50 on down to slow gradually for a light, or sometimes heavy traffic. On the flip side of the D3 coin, if I'm sitting around 40, it makes for a quick getaway if gravity gets a hold of my right foot.
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Old April 19th, 2005, 08:15 AM   #18
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Note: don't use D2 to start from stop. Many people assume when you have it on D2, it shifts from 1 to 2. It does not do that. IF you have it on d2, it skips the 1st gear.
We don't have a D1 and D2, but I know what you mean. Others are referring to D1 and D2, when they actually mean 1st gear and 2nd gear. D3 (drive 3) is the gear that shifts 1-2-3.

Good point for those that do start from 2nd gear. It skips 1st gear.

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but kinda miss having a manual now. probably won't get another auto
I'll be passing my AT on to my fiance at the end of this summer or in the fall. I miss it too much.
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Old April 19th, 2005, 08:16 AM   #19
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So jealous....


Makes me want an Auto....





Want to trade? No? Come on?

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205-215 lb ft of torque is low?

Not really...... but we don't have 205-215 ft/lbs down at 1000 to 3000 rpm, which is about the rev range that I think people are referring to here, regarding leaving it in a lower gear.
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Old April 19th, 2005, 01:16 PM   #21
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205-215 lb ft of torque is low?

That's what I'm saying! You don't know what the meaning of "lack of low end" is until you drive a 6th gen AV6 .

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Not really...... but we don't have 205-215 ft/lbs down at 1000 to 3000 rpm, which is about the rev range that I think people are referring to here, regarding leaving it in a lower gear.
But most of it does come in at around 3000 rpm, which is leaps and bounds above what the 6th gen AV6's J30A1 engine was able to produce.



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Old April 19th, 2005, 02:18 PM   #22
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ahha gotcha..for me too much torque is when you start wheelspinning and your like crap must let off the throttle.,


but umm anyway gooo tooorque!!!!!!
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Old April 19th, 2005, 04:27 PM   #23
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Looks like i'll be driving in d3 tonight when I get off work to see what its like. Sounds like it will go faster then just driving it in D DRIVE. later kids
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Sounds like it will go faster then just driving it in D DRIVE. later kids
It will be faster but thier are two major cons if you always drive in D3 compared to just leaving it in D (5th gear).

1. Premature engine wear
2. Increased gas consumption



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Old April 19th, 2005, 06:37 PM   #25
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Premature engine wear?
So long as you aren't letting the RPM's run up way too high in 3rd, it's no different on your engine than D(5).

Thanks for starting this thread Tane. I drive city streets to work. Tried keepin it in D3 today.
I love it.

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Premature engine wear?
So long as you aren't letting the RPM's run up way too high in 3rd, it's no different on your engine than D(5).
Well lets say your car is going down a road at 50 MPH at around 1500 rpm in D (5th gear). Now lets say another 7th gen AV6 is going down the same road and at the same speed but in D3 at around 3500 rpm. And lets say this road is the 20 mile stretch you take to work every day. Which engine do you think is going to last longer?



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Hmm .. I actually don't understand you guys ..

I would say D3 is only useful when speeds >60mph .. highway passing, the blasts from 75mph (right after VTEC kicks in) to 95 mph is especially sweet.

Coz if you're running around 40-50mph, any romp on the pedal will kick you back to 2nd. The idea of keeping it in D3 is that you won't have the lag from the tranny kickin down a gear or two rite?

Btw, I think the 3rd gear (4th too) is too tall. I hate kicking in 3rd at 60mph at 4K rpm ... not enuf power there.
The Accord should be a 6 speed ... wait, that's what the 6MT is ..
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If you're holding 3500 in 3rd for an extended period of time, then #1 you're doin more than 50. And #2 should be shifting into 4th and if someone isn't aware of that then they deserve to wear their engine down.
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If you're holding 3500 in 3rd for an extended period of time, then #1 you're doin more than 50. And #2 should be shifting into 4th and if someone isn't aware of that then they deserve to wear their engine down.
It was just an example, but you get my point .



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Oh, don't get me wrong, I totally follow what you're saying about the ability to wear the hell outa your engine. I'm just saying that if you use D3 intelligently (I know sometimes it's a lot to ask of people) you shouldn't be causing trouble for yourself.
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