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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:38 PM   #1
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Question Decent Performance Tire but skinny sidewalls?

Hey guys,
I'm currently reevaluating my current setup.
I previously ran Falken 912's all around and loved the fitment of them as I didn't rub up front at all
But I was not pleased with the handling and the noise >_<

So after some research I switched over to the Continental DWS WHICH I LOVE.
They hug the road so well with little to no noise.
Did I mention the thread wear rating is 540 and they still show little to no signs of wear! I highly recommend these tires.
The only catch they are so much meatier than the Falken 912's and cause me to rub like a mofo up front =/ even with the same size as the Falken's (215/40/18)

I'm still planning on running 215/40 up front.. but I know the fact that I'm widening my front stance from 18x8+20 to 18x9+20 the Continentals are not going to cut it at all.


My question: What is a decent performance tire with a decent price that has a skinny sidewall that isn't so meaty?
I hear the Falken 452's are actually even skinnier than the 912's and also somewhat a performance tire, but the 452's can not compare to my Continental DWS's performance.

Basically I want a good tire with great fitment, with sacrificing the least of both worlds.

I've already looked into Hankook EVO V12 & Falken 452's and I'm going to pass on those because I don't think they're that great.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 11:52 PM   #2
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Hankook evos are good. I am against falkens, I think they lose tread a lot faster than their supposed to.
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yea hankook ventus v12 evo's are pretty damn dope... they're quiet, stretch well and have good traction. only downside treadwear 280.... falken fk452 soft and low noise, but they are notorious for bubbles. I've run 2 sets of falkens fk452's and i've had bubbles in all but 1 tire out of 8... i'm not sure if they have your size but check out nitto neo-gens made for negative camber...
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In 215/40-18 sizes
Summer tire: BFG g-force comp-2 or Yokohoma S.Drive
All-season: General G-Max or Continental DWS

Those are top rated tires that arent too expensive

If you want more performance, but shorter treadlife try Continental DW or Pilot Super Sports (if you got the cash for those!)

Overall your tire size is the biggest limiter here. If you chose 215/45-18 (my recommendation), you could get Potenza RE760 or Kumho Ecsta 4x
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^Don't get Pilot Super Sports for stretching... They look like shit stretched and they run fat.



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Hankook evos are good. I am against falkens, I think they lose tread a lot faster than their supposed to.
Yea I feel the same way about Falken's..
The only thing I like is how they stretch..


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yea hankook ventus v12 evo's are pretty damn dope... they're quiet, stretch well and have good traction. only downside treadwear 280.... falken fk452 soft and low noise, but they are notorious for bubbles. I've run 2 sets of falkens fk452's and i've had bubbles in all but 1 tire out of 8... i'm not sure if they have your size but check out nitto neo-gens made for negative camber...

Exactly how I feel about each tire
The nittos are lovely.. but pricey....

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In 215/40-18 sizes
Summer tire: BFG g-force comp-2 or Yokohoma S.Drive
All-season: General G-Max or Continental DWS

Those are top rated tires that arent too expensive

If you want more performance, but shorter treadlife try Continental DW or Pilot Super Sports (if you got the cash for those!)


Overall your tire size is the biggest limiter here. If you chose 215/45-18 (my recommendation), you could get Potenza RE760 or Kumho Ecsta 4x

LOL
I think you missed the whole point of this thread man.
I ALREADY HAVE DWS.
And all the tires you listed are as fat as ....


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^Don't get Pilot Super Sports for stretching... They look like shit stretched and they run fat.
Wsup man!?
I was hoping you'd reply
Any suggestions?
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Old March 14th, 2013, 10:24 AM   #7
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FK452s run similar to Hankook Ventus V12s in terms of their width, but I personally like the look and feel of the Hankooks over the Falkens. Overall I'm not very impressed with my Falkens, aside from the sidewall strength. Everyone says they're notorious for sidewall bubbles but mine look perfectly fine surprisingly. This is coming from a person who has had basically every other tire bubble on me once I started stretching my tires.



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Teh kitteh supreme..
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Mm..
I wouldn't mind the Hankook over the 452s
I personally could care less about Falkens they suck.
Any other decent tire besides the Hankooks guys?!
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Anyone know how the General G-max will fit? Or how's the traction on the Federal S595?
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Supreme is a brand I've been following probably for like three of four years now, but I never actually started buying anything from them until recently. Just cawped the CDG collab that just dropped today. Waiting for it in the mail.



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I should sell my Supreme Blazers and Dunks ^_^
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Ive had

nitto nt555's
hankook ventus v12's

both are inexpensive great performing tire, only difference i could tell is v12's were mushier on the corners
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I should sell my Supreme Blazers and Dunks ^_^
Those could probably pay for your tires! LOL



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Ive had

nitto nt555's
hankook ventus v12's

both are inexpensive great performing tire, only difference i could tell is v12's were mushier on the corners
Thanks, I'll look into the Nitto's

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I've had good luck with the Nitto 555s as well. The Hankooks are great too. One tire you should stay away from if you value peace and quiet is the BF Goodrich KDW2. I have them on the rear right now and they are LOUD!
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I've had good luck with the Nitto 555s as well. The Hankooks are great too. One tire you should stay away from if you value peace and quiet is the BF Goodrich KDW2. I have them on the rear right now and they are LOUD!


Thanks Milan!

How long did those Nitto last?!
Nitto is notorious for being $$ and not lasting long =/
Hence why I'm madly in love with my DWS..
But they're too meaty sadly



Edit:
I just ran some prices on the Nitto 555
Thread wear rating is at 300
They're fairly cheap at around $104-120 a piece. Not bad..


Anyone know how the General G-max will fit? Or how's the traction on the Federal S595?
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V12s are really good for the money, aside from their terrible sidewalls. If they offered an XL super stiff sidewall version I would be DOWN.



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What are the setbacks of weak sidewalls?
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I guarantee that if you're stretching your Hankooks and you hit bumps/potholes ever, you will get mad sidewall bubbles.



It was like this around the entire tire, and I was lucky that I caught it when I did. I was doing an oil change, and noticed that the sidewalls looked like bacon!



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Thanks Milan!

How long did those Nitto last?!
Nitto is notorious for being $$ and not lasting long =/

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I just ran some prices on the Nitto 555
Thread wear rating is at 300
They're fairly cheap at around $104-120 a piece. Not bad..
Sadly they were on the coupe we traded in so I didn't get to judge how long they would have lasted. I get 99% of my wheels and tires second hand so price to me is irrelevant lol. I usually pay 0.25-0.50 cent on the dollar.
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Mhmm.. what I thought.
My 912's had bubbles left and right................
My DWS are just fine
How can you tell if a tire has a strong sidewall?
Is it in the rating/tire size description?



Anyone know how the General G-max will fit? Or how's the traction on the Federal S595?
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Usually that information is listed on the website of the tire maker.



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try the hankook ventus v4 es h105. it stretches nicely and also has pretty good tire treadwear. had 215/40/18's and lasted me 2 full seasons daily driving
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i loved by bf goodrich g-forces. super grippy, very good tread ware, even though i didn't do much of a stretch they were very nice grippy tires. lasted quite a while too.
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RE760
S.Drive

Don't know how th ey stretch though
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try the hankook ventus v4 es h105. it stretches nicely and also has pretty good tire treadwear. had 215/40/18's and lasted me 2 full seasons daily driving

Thank you. What a good response

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i loved by bf goodrich g-forces. super grippy, very good tread ware, even though i didn't do much of a stretch they were very nice grippy tires. lasted quite a while too.
Well I need to know how they stretch

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Don't know how th ey stretch though
They're ****ty and loud

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s drive
****ty and LOUD!



I may just try the Nitto's..
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They're far from "****ty" tires. S.drive louder than RE760, but also any tire will get loud if you aren't keeping up with a good alignment or rotations. Both the tires I pointed out are leaps and bounds ahead of Falken 912
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I'm thinking about running 245/35/18 S.Drives next. Noise is not a problem, as my stereo will always be on lol. My car makes so many rattles and clunks at this point that tire noise is not an issue.



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