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Old June 9th, 2013, 04:11 PM   #1
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Koni yellow adjustable perch setting

Hello everyone I had purchased koni yelow/ eibach pro kit spring combo for my 2006 4cyl coupe. i liked the height then but now i want to go a tad lower by setting the spring perch lower (20mm). Those of you who did this, did you run into any problems? I am afraid of blowing out these struts. I am at 1.4 drop fr/ 1.2 rear which would push me down to 2.2 fr and around 1.9 rear. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old June 9th, 2013, 05:52 PM   #2
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Hello everyone I had purchased koni yelow/ eibach pro kit spring combo for my 2006 4cyl coupe. i liked the height then but now i want to go a tad lower by setting the spring perch lower (20mm). Those of you who did this, did you run into any problems? I am afraid of blowing out these struts. I am at 1.4 drop fr/ 1.2 rear which would push me down to 2.2 fr and around 1.9 rear. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
I own this exact combo, i am installing them on wednesday.
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i already installed them and they are pretty rad. i just want to go on the lower perch and was wondering if its safe for the struts
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I would think so, I've heard of people running on the lowest perch. Either way the koni's are very reputable strut and you have lifetime warranty
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I've had koni's and prokit for awhile. the lowest perch is actually only 15mm lower in the front. The rear top perch raises the rear 20mm and the bottom lowers it 15mm. I have the rear at stock perch and front at lowest perch. I cut the bump stop about 10 mm more. It's really a great stance. I have never had it bottom out and barely notice a difference between the two perches. I lowered the front about 5 months ago and no problems. There is a little more road feedback, but not much. The ride height is right where I want it. Handling is still just as good too. The ground control sleeves drop it even lower, so I don't see a 1.2-1.4 spring drop blowing a shock on lowest perch. I recommend it from my personal setup right now. Plus even if something happens, koni's lifetime warranty is amazing.
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thanks for the reassurance KaotikPlaya
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Old June 9th, 2013, 10:18 PM   #7
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Are you riding on fully soft for dd?
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You should be fine with lower perch on Pro-Kit

I am at highest perch all around with Sport lines and almost tuck
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I ride 3/4 turn from soft rear, 1 turn from soft front. Perfect daily driver setting IMO
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Old June 10th, 2013, 02:02 AM   #10
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I got damper settings 1.6 turn from full soft in front and 1 turn from full soft in rear nismoasfuh for dd
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What about camber adjustment? I bought eibach sportline springs, but I'm wondering if I'll get negative camber? I think my front control arms need replacing anyway, so if need be, I would just buy camber adjustable ones to replace.
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What about camber adjustment? I bought eibach sportline springs, but I'm wondering if I'll get negative camber? I think my front control arms need replacing anyway, so if need be, I would just buy camber adjustable ones to replace.
Front won't need anything.. natural camber from the drop should be around -0.7

Rear will need a camber kit to correct the toe and camber that will go off from the drop (highly recommended)

I wouldn't run full soft, somewhere between middle to hard. They are only rebound adjustments not bound, so really you're not making it "stiffer" just quicker response. The springs you have are pretty forgiving anyways and won't knock any fillings out
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With the pro kit you shouldn't need a camber kit. It drops about the same as the HFP springs, and per those directions, you do not need to install a camber kit. I have natural camber and it is right where I want it. However, with the sportlines, you will need a camber kit in the rear, but like funkpro said, you won't need one for the front. Why would you think your front control arms need replacing? Are you sure it's not just the bushings, if there is even anything wrong with them? Symptoms? I've got a pretty good picture of the stance with the koni's and pro-kit, front on lowest, rear on stock with 18" wheels in thread. It's the pic of how it is now with the new wheels

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With the pro kit you shouldn't need a camber kit. It drops about the same as the HFP springs, and per those directions, you do not need to install a camber kit. I have natural camber and it is right where I want it. However, with the sportlines, you will need a camber kit in the rear, but like funkpro said, you won't need one for the front. Why would you think your front control arms need replacing? Are you sure it's not just the bushings, if there is even anything wrong with them? Symptoms? I've got a pretty good picture of the stance with the koni's and pro-kit, front on lowest, rear on stock with 18" wheels in thread. It's the pic of how it is now with the new wheels
The toe spec will still change, especially if he's going to lowest perch with those springs. Best way to be able to do a good alignment is to have the camber kit.
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With the pro kit you shouldn't need a camber kit. It drops about the same as the HFP springs, and per those directions, you do not need to install a camber kit. I have natural camber and it is right where I want it. However, with the sportlines, you will need a camber kit in the rear, but like funkpro said, you won't need one for the front. Why would you think your front control arms need replacing? Are you sure it's not just the bushings, if there is even anything wrong with them? Symptoms? I've got a pretty good picture of the stance with the koni's and pro-kit, front on lowest, rear on stock with 18" wheels in thread. It's the pic of how it is now with the new wheels
I took the car to my local dealership to perform the power steering hose recall and they mentioned that the bushings had a bit of play in them. I had a 98 civic a few years ago and to replace the bushing I had to buy the entire control arm, is it not the same with the Accord? I never got a chance to get under the car and look, I only had the car for a few months.
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I took the car to my local dealership to perform the power steering hose recall and they mentioned that the bushings had a bit of play in them. I had a 98 civic a few years ago and to replace the bushing I had to buy the entire control arm, is it not the same with the Accord? I never got a chance to get under the car and look, I only had the car for a few months.
You can replace only the bushings, Honda sells them individually. I recommend buying the entire arm if you're doing the job yourself. Be prepared to cut off at least a couple of the bolts that attach the lower arm to the frame.
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With the pro kit you shouldn't need a camber kit. It drops about the same as the HFP springs, and per those directions, you do not need to install a camber kit. I have natural camber and it is right where I want it. However, with the sportlines, you will need a camber kit in the rear, but like funkpro said, you won't need one for the front. Why would you think your front control arms need replacing? Are you sure it's not just the bushings, if there is even anything wrong with them? Symptoms? I've got a pretty good picture of the stance with the koni's and pro-kit, front on lowest, rear on stock with 18" wheels in thread. It's the pic of how it is now with the new wheels
Any drop will require an adjustable camber top arm on the rear. Front will be okay up to a ~2" drop.
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Per honda's HFP suspension instructions, it states does not need a camber kit, and the pro-kit and H-techs are about the same drop. I have the pro-kit at lowest perch in front, stock on rear, and my camber is just barely over. Also, have totally even tire wear. I've also read, it's better to get the ingall's two arm kit type, then the one arm upper. Much easier to adjust from bottom and get to specs. But it's pretty much personal preference to get and which kind of camber kit. With my drop I don't want or need one, just something that might come loose, when I get my coilovers, camber kits will be coming in same box
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