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Old June 5th, 2015, 03:32 PM   #1
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Questions about Jpipe, CAI, Exhaust, and Pulleys.

Hey guys,

So soon I will be looking into making a few performance modifications into my car. In total, I would like to end up with the following:

- Exhaust either Borla or Magnaflow
- Cold Air Intake (Thinking Injen, would like opinions.)
- RV6 J-Pipe (Possibly HFPC's as well)
- Crank and Tensioner/Idle Pulleys (From Throwdown Performance.)

I know that the combination of these mods will provide some power, which is what I am going for obviously, but I have heard that the power gets to a point where it is now 'too much' for the stock clutch. I am not looking to replace my clutch to accommodate power, so my biggest question is -- what would be the best combination of mods here that would make the car the happiest? I would really be happy with just the J-Pipe and the exhaust if that would be good for enough power gains. Thinking the crank pulley as well. Exhaust is definitely going to be changed when I decide which I want. Also, if anyone has any links or videos or soundclips to the Borla exhaust, I would love to see them. There is only one video I have seen of the Borla, and it isn't that good.

Is there anything that I should be aware of going into these modifications aside from the basic CEL as the ECU adjusts to th new air flow, etc..?

The car is completely stock under the hood minus the rear torque dampener on the engine mount. Sorry I couldn't provide any more information, as I am currently getting ready to leave for a flight and wanted to get this information out while it was fresh in my head. I will provide any more information if it is needed as I see your responses.

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Old June 5th, 2015, 04:22 PM   #2
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I'm at 150k with what I believe is the stock clutch and full bolt ons minus a car back. I have no issues...hopefully I didn't just jynx myself.

The pcd/hfpc and jpipe combo will get you largest gains. The bang per buck is pretty good too.

Make a cold air yourself from eBay tubing and a k&n filter. There is x write up on this forum somewhere and it will save you money to boot. Expect more noise than power.

Premade cat back systems will net small gains. Pick the one that you think sounds the best.

None of the above mods will throw cels and the ecu will compensate. Far down the road is hondata for the smoothing and small power bump.
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I'm at 150k with what I believe is the stock clutch and full bolt ons minus a car back. I have no issues...hopefully I didn't just jynx myself.

The pcd/hfpc and jpipe combo will get you largest gains. The bang per buck is pretty good too.

Make a cold air yourself from eBay tubing and a k&n filter. There is x write up on this forum somewhere and it will save you money to boot. Expect more noise than power.

Premade cat back systems will net small gains. Pick the one that you think sounds the best.

None of the above mods will throw cels and the ecu will compensate. Far down the road is hondata for the smoothing and small power bump.
By full bolt one you mean you have everything I'm looking at doing? Thank you for your I put! I will look I to the DIY cold air intake, but I think I'm just going to go with Injen or something.

With the Jpipe and the PCD, does that completely remove the catalytic converter? I know the Jpipe removes the 3rd cat. Living in Kansas right now, we have no emissions laws, but I am considering moving back to AZ where there are. Probably not my biggest concern as of right now though.

Hondata is a bit out of my price range. After all these mods, I don't think the price will really be worth the power gains. I'm ready happy with stock, and with these mods I'll be good to go.

I am hoping the car will not start running rough after this though. I don't ALWAYS drive hard. I like to have the power when I want it. None of these components HAVE to be driven hard always do they? Silly question, but I figure I would ask anyways.

Thanks!

EDIT -- For what it's worth, my car is currently at 96k miles.

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Full bolt on for these cars is cold air,throttle body,intake plenum/manifold, port and polish runners, pre cat deletes j pipe, and cat back.

Pre cat deletes and j pipe will completely remove the catalytic converters. One or the other and you should pass smog but not a visual. I kept my stock j pipe for smog purposes.

The car will run fine after the ecu retrims everything...roughly a tank or two of gas after resetting it. You might see a small increase in mpgs if you do the jpipe and precat if you can keep your foot out of it.
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your not going to break your clutch. The tq will be less then 300wtq needed to break it. Most bolt on accord have around 220-230 wtq depending on how much stuff they have on. start spraying nitrous and you will begin to have some issues
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I have all the exhaust mods you are planning. I chose the borla and HFPC for the express purpose of keeping noise/rasp down. I can tell you I (and my wife) are VERY picky about noise/rasp/drone. This setup sounds stock from inside while cruising. The wife didn't even kno I modified anything till I put my foot in it. Even then I get more intake than exhaust noise. And by noise I mean it sounds awesome!!! I'll try to dig up a sound clip.

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I have had great results with my Comptech cat-back, HFC, and ATLP ver. 2 jpipe. I definitely enjoyed how 'quiet' this setup was at lower engine speeds but as soon as you step into it it comes to life.... http://youtu.be/xmpre6f3vTw

I think you might also want to consider a good set of coilovers to compliment your engine mods. Happy mod'ing
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Full bolt on for these cars is cold air,throttle body,intake plenum/manifold, port and polish runners, pre cat deletes j pipe, and cat back.

Pre cat deletes and j pipe will completely remove the catalytic converters. One or the other and you should pass smog but not a visual. I kept my stock j pipe for smog purposes.

The car will run fine after the ecu retrims everything...roughly a tank or two of gas after resetting it. You might see a small increase in mpgs if you do the jpipe and precat if you can keep your foot out of it.
Thanks! I think for now I'd like to get through the Exhaust and Jpipe first. This will be my first time moving away from a stock setup on any car I have owned. I can go from there, but that is great information! What do the manifold mods offer?

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your not going to break your clutch. The tq will be less then 300wtq needed to break it. Most bolt on accord have around 220-230 wtq depending on how much stuff they have on. start spraying nitrous and you will begin to have some issues
Awesome! That's great to hear! I won't be going the nitrous route, so I am very happy to know I am within my limits still.

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I have all the exhaust mods you are planning. I chose the borla and HFPC for the express purpose of keeping noise/rasp down. I can tell you I (and my wife) are VERY picky about noise/rasp/drone. This setup sounds stock from inside while cruising. The wife didn't even kno I modified anything till I put my foot in it. Even then I get more intake than exhaust noise. And by noise I mean it sounds awesome!!! I'll try to dig up a sound clip.

You can search my YouTube channel I have three videos username 07j30. You can also page through this thread I started on driveaccord. Just ignore the idiots

http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/15...cbe-sedan.html
Awesome! I know that the Borla is a very quiet exhaust from what I have heard. I have yet to find a good video that shows it, so thanks for those! I do remember your post, actually! I was on board with the rest thinking your exhaust tips looked a bit too far back That Borla sounds nice when you gunned it to 60! I really wish I could hear them in person.


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I have had great results with my Comptech cat-back, HFC, and ATLP ver. 2 jpipe. I definitely enjoyed how 'quiet' this setup was at lower engine speeds but as soon as you step into it it comes to life.... http://youtu.be/xmpre6f3vTw

I think you might also want to consider a good set of coilovers to compliment your engine mods. Happy mod'ing
I was reading this article on ATLP, RV6, and XLR8. It looks like the ATLP takes a bit to catch up to the other two, but then again, I have never dyno'd my cars, and am not entirely sure what I am looking at with those charts.

I actually am sitting on some Megan's, so from the suspension side of things, I am good to go!
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I ordered the Injen CAI today. Should have that this week. So it begins!
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ATLP=high rev range gains
RV6= low end gains
XLR8= a compromise btw the two

In a nut shell
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ATLP=high rev range gains
RV6= low end gains
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Interesting... That is the best TL;DR of anything I've read up on these 3 items. Thank you. Now I'm not sure what I want...

The RV6 doesn't reduce any high end gains does it? And, as such, the ATLP doesn't reduce your low end gains? I like the idea of having a bit more torque off the start, but I also love the idea of really letting the VTEC shine wants it hits with those high end gains. Thank you for the information man!!

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Buy whatever is cheapest. While I agree with the TLDR, there haven't been any concrete dynos controlling for blah blah blah to prove that 100%. From what I've seen the differences are far from night and day even if it is true.

If you want pre cat deletes you'll have to buy RV6. They normally run combo deals on the pcd and j pipe combo, so I went for that. You can't go wrong with any option.
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Buy whatever is cheapest. While I agree with the TLDR, there haven't been any concrete dynos controlling for blah blah blah to prove that 100%. From what I've seen the differences are far from night and day even if it is true.

If you want pre cat deletes you'll have to buy RV6. They normally run combo deals on the pcd and j pipe combo, so I went for that. You can't go wrong with any option.
I did much research on which pipe to get before pulling the trigger...I can tell u this...everything I have read has said they r all good pipes so getting the best deal is the biggest contributor. For me it was the rv6 v3. Got it during Black Friday specials and none of the others would match the price...even when called and given the opportunity

On top of that Richie gave me the pkg deal price 2 months later when I bought the HFPC. He earned my business.
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I did much research on which pipe to get before pulling the trigger...I can tell u this...everything I have read has said they r all good pipes so getting the best deal is the biggest contributor. For me it was the rv6 v3. Got it during Black Friday specials and none of the others would match the price...even when called and given the opportunity

On top of that Richie gave me the pkg deal price 2 months later when I bought the HFPC. He earned my business.
I remember that sale too... I regret now not buying it then.

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Hondata flashpro isn't out for an 07 accord yet right?

I am thinking of ordering Ktuner for my car & having it dyno tuned.

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You should be fine on a stick clutch. You will notice some nice gains from those miss all at once. I recommend the Injen RD CAI. I have one and it looks good, sounds good and performs well. GL!

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You should be fine on a stick clutch. You will notice some nice gains from those miss all at once. I recommend the Injen RD CAI. I have one and it looks good, sounds good and performs well. GL!

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I did go with the Injen! It sounds great and I love it! -- http://i.imgur.com/SQgMlHk.jpg

I decided to go with Magnaflow, and the RV6 is waiting for me! Should have it all on in October! I am excited!
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If u went with the magnaflow catback make sure you replace the flange. Mine was only 2.0inch at the open vs 2.5 down stream
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If u went with the magnaflow catback make sure you replace the flange. Mine was only 2.0inch at the open vs 2.5 down stream
Good information, unfortunately I am not sure what you mean by it.

I will look it up.
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