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Old October 25th, 2015, 03:39 AM   #1
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Logging final hours of accord's life

Hello everyone.

2003 honda accord ex v6-5at. Yes the defective transmission 5at. 244k miles, just flushed the tranny completely and added a cooler and new filter a few months ago. About an hour ago on my way home it started to slip, shift points were weird as well. Hit the gas a bit to double check if it was indeed slipping, neutral at 6k.

Will this be the end of my accord? I don't know. All I know is, I'm ****ed.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 07:56 AM   #2
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Hello everyone.

2003 honda accord ex v6-5at. Yes the defective transmission 5at. 244k miles, just flushed the tranny completely and added a cooler and new filter a few months ago. About an hour ago on my way home it started to slip, shift points were weird as well. Hit the gas a bit to double check if it was indeed slipping, neutral at 6k.

Will this be the end of my accord? I don't know. All I know is, I'm ****ed.
Start shopping for a 6 speed. This isn't the end...it is the beginning of something great.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 09:20 AM   #3
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The dreaded year for our A/T

That's awesome that you got 244k miles out of her though on that original trans! Many '03s didn't even get to see 50k lol

I agree with CBUS that a 6MT would definitely be a lot more fun but just keep in mind that if you're not in the financial state to purchase a new car, or plan on keeping your current one for many more years, you can drop a newer/refurb'd trans in her for only a couple G's (much less than $8k for another car) which would be worth it. However, if you plan on selling her, don't waste your money and sell her AS-IS.
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you can just throw in another used auto tranny? Pick one up from a local scrap yard.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 12:09 PM   #5
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244k miles from any automatic tranny nowadays is great.



If you decide to have the tranny rebuilt and are financially able to, see if you can send it to a Honda factory and have them rebuild it. They will add any updated fixes to it. Might have to go through a dealer.


When you get it back, check the case/bellhousing for a Honda Factory rebuild sticker/badge to verify it was actually rebuilt by a Honda Factory Tech BEFORE you accept delivery and pay for it.



Another option is to buy a Factory rebuild if they have one in stock. Check the case/bellhousing for that sticker/badge.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 01:15 PM   #6
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Doing 6mt swap, or at least plan to. Just need like 2 grand more and I'll have the whole conversion shipped to my door. Only problem is I work at Domino's delivering, and no more car! Lmao.
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Haha, I just picked up an Accord that hopefully *crosses fingers* will not be a project. I have two other cars that need work, I just need a daily! Try and find some Corolla or Prizm for a grand, deliver a thousand pizzas and then sell it for $1100.
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if you have money for car payments or cash, go for it. if not, fix it.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 09:20 PM   #9
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Noticed the ATF was a little high, drained it out. Last time I did a drain and fill about 2.5qts would come out each time. Almost a gallon came out this time, filled it back up with 2.5qts and the dipstick still reads a little high. It has whining when I rev it in park, went for a test drive and it is shifting fine, even floored it and it cought the shift. Any thoughts?

Fluid was in good condition. Some fabric on the drain plug.
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...fabric on the drain plug??
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Old October 26th, 2015, 07:32 AM   #11
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Just really really fine black power basically. Kinda like super fine iron filament or whatever that **** is in the dirt after it rains. Atf is overfilled, hopefully that's the only issue. Having it done properly tomorrow. Car is shifting normal for now after I removed about a quart, still overfilled though.
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...fabric on the drain plug??
Could be clutch pack material. It doesn't usually make it back to our pans in full frayed form, just kind of disentigrates as it gets crammed between the clutches.
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Just really really fine black power basically. Kinda like super fine iron filament or whatever that **** is in the dirt after it rains. Atf is overfilled, hopefully that's the only issue. Having it done properly tomorrow. Car is shifting normal for now after I removed about a quart, still overfilled though.
Make sure you actually go to somebody who knows what they're doing, otherwise they will just flush your transmission and it WILL die. Hoep this message gets to you in time, as i've lost one personally to this, and seen at least 3 others locally.

Overfill can cause some weird issues, but not usually along the lines of what you're describing unless it was drastically overfilled, then started to pressurize into places it isn't supposed to be, like past seals. I would spend wisely over the next month or so, and get that money. Also baby the hell out of it, no fast accel, warm starts, don't move until either reverse or drive is fully engaged, fully stop before switching from R to D, no neutral drops, no e brake with foot anywhere near pedal.


Oh, and if you want to try and prolong it a bit more, for a few bucks, get a 1 quart racing redline, 1 quart lightweight racing redline and 1 quart of redline d6, and have about 0.5 quarts of dw-1. When you get it back from being properly filled get a bucket with increments on it and drain into that. Then put PRECISELY that much back in with these in a 0.8:1:1:0.5 ratio (Racing:Lightweight Racing6W-1). Paint stirrer/measuring cups found at harbor freight work great for this.
If you get 3.3quarts out like you should(unless it's liters, then just adjust to liters) you can use those numbers above of how much to add.

This puts about 1.8 quarts/liters into the trans of non slip fluid, "packaged" by 1.5 of slip fluid. IIRC the trans carries 12 quarts/liters, so this also brings you up to about ~15% non-FM fluid, which works great at either reviving or prolonging transmissions with no grip left under normal dw-1 conditions. Just make sure you start it up in neutral the first time and let it idle for a good amount of time to let the fluid mix, then shift through the gears while rolling a few times. Hope this helps get you enough time to get your 2G, for about $50 in materials.

Redline dealers are scarce though, and rarely carry ATF, so call around before you order online to try and find the unicorn.

Edit: Forgot to put this but the reason for this ratio is to make a fluid nearly identical to fresh DW-1 viscosity, and not entirely non-FM fluid, so it doesn't shock the system, and doesn't get stuck somewhere.
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Getting the fluid levels corrected as we speak at a shop, will see how it goes. Does anyone know if there's some odd way in hell to get a loan for car repairs? lmao
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Getting the fluid levels corrected as we speak at a shop, will see how it goes. Does anyone know if there's some odd way in hell to get a loan for car repairs? lmao
you can go to a credit union and take out a personal loan
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18, male? Won't get a loan for **** lmao. Especially not the 3,000 I need to have everything set & done in the car with the 3.2 and 6mt. However, I have actually budgeted out, with overages, that the entire swap for a j32a3 and 6mt lsd with no CEL's or ****ups would cost me 3500. Sounds pretty cheap to me, that's less than the supercharger kit from comptech. Anyhow, just heard back from the mechanic, the fluid was exactly where it was supposed to be. So I'm not as stupid as I previously believed. However, that just leaves me with a slipping transmission and no answers. It slipped when on my way to the mechanic, and when I parked I went from R to D and it didn't go into gear. Just rolled back.
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18, male? Won't get a loan for **** lmao. Especially not the 3,000 I need to have everything set & done in the car with the 3.2 and 6mt. However, I have actually budgeted out, with overages, that the entire swap for a j32a3 and 6mt lsd with no CEL's or ****ups would cost me 3500. Sounds pretty cheap to me, that's less than the supercharger kit from comptech. Anyhow, just heard back from the mechanic, the fluid was exactly where it was supposed to be. So I'm not as stupid as I previously believed. However, that just leaves me with a slipping transmission and no answers. It slipped when on my way to the mechanic, and when I parked I went from R to D and it didn't go into gear. Just rolled back.
Best shot is that fluid combo, but no guarantee it will work with that shot of a trans.

Personal loan @ your age, unlikely. Credit cards are more likely but they start out usually with around 500$ limit. Paypal credit I think starts at 1000 and might let you go over that. Paypal is terrible on interest, but if your car is your work you have to evaluate the real life cost of losing it.
Scrap what you have around the house, spare parts, **** you don't need, tires, rims, whatever.
Get some kind of credit system worked out with someone or some institution. Parents are also usually a good bet at your age and honestly if you told them you paid for it with a 25% interest paypal credit account, they would feel worse that you didn't ask them for some help because that interest racks up quick. 3G costs around 3750 at the end of the year. If you can pay the 750 a year interest, plus a bit more, it works.
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Old October 27th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #18
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I'm gonna be driving my hoodless-fenderless-bumperless '94 civic coupe for right now, until that ****s the bed as well. But I picked it up for 300 so **** it. Parents are no-go.
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Accord has been in my garage this entire time, not 1 mile put on it since I got back from mechanic last week. Either going to swap a 5at just to get it running, or do the 6mt conversion. How much should I pay for an 05+ 5at? Is there a more reliable transmission that will bolt right up?
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06-07 transmissions seem to be the most reliable. I know on Acurazine that's what they were using to replace their dead transmissions. Depending on mileage, expect to pay between $500-1000. Make sure you check the fluid to be sure its nice and red and doesn't have a burnt odor.
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Buy an used tranny and stick it in. A remaned one is about $1400. Not too bad. A 6-6 is hard to find.
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