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Old September 23rd, 2004, 06:42 AM   #1
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OEM HFP Suspension Group Buy $431.25 + Shipping

OEM Honda 08W60-SDP-100 High performance pre-assembled springs that reduce the ride height by one-inch and lower the Accord's roll center;
High performance shock absorbers tuned for enhanced road handling characteristics;
The Honda HFP package carries the same 1-year/12,000 mile warranty as all Honda Accessory equipment and does not affect the factory warranty.


Here is the link to our Website Order Here

Here is the Link for Shipping Quote Ships from 44070 Box Size 32"x13"x13" 55lbs

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Old September 23rd, 2004, 07:52 AM   #2
 
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thanks for hooking our members up Joe
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 08:17 AM   #3
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Thank you! Damn, I wish I still have my Av6

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Old September 23rd, 2004, 08:47 AM   #4
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OEM Honda 08W60-SDP-100 High performance pre-assembled springs that reduce the ride height by one-inch and lower the Accord's roll center;
High performance shock absorbers tuned for enhanced road handling characteristics;
The Honda FP package carries the same 1-year/12,000 mile warranty as all Honda Accessory equipment and does not affect the factory warranty.


Here is the link to our Website Order Here

Here is the Link for Shipping Quote Ships from 44070 Box Size 32"x13"x13" 55lbs
AAAH! How long is this gonna last? I'm really short on money right now... maybe in a month or so!!! Plllllllllllllllllllease make it last

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Old September 23rd, 2004, 09:12 AM   #5
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AAAH! How long is this gonna last? I'm really short on money right now... maybe in a month or so!!! Plllllllllllllllllllease make it last
Expires 10/29/04 or while supplies last is the word we have from Honda
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 09:47 AM   #6
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Does HFP fit?

Good price.
Suspension design didn't change that much from 6th to 7th gen. So will it fit a 6th gen ?
Does anybody have a 03 strut to compare the ride height and mounting points?

Here's the 6th gen.

7th gen.
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 11:24 AM   #7
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Good price.
Suspension design didn't change that much from 6th to 7th gen. So will it fit a 6th gen ?
Does anybody have a 03 strut to compare the ride height and mounting points?
Were on the same page here. I am going to try and see if these will fit my 98. Ok I couldn't wait so here is what I found.

FRONT:
Front struts will fit but the 3 main mounting bolts have a smaller bolt circle then the 98-02 shock. The mounting hols in the strut tower will need to be sloted to fit. As you can see in the pic the shock is about 1" shorter.

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Rear struts will fit but the lower bushing will need to be replaced. The 98-02 uses a 10mm bolt while the 03-05 uses a 12mm. I dont advise drilling out to the 12mm size as there is not that much material on the knuckle to work with. As you can see in the pic the shock is about 1" shorter.

I will have these mounted over the weekend to give ride and handling feedback.

Link for pic of Shocks 98-02 Compaired to 03-05

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Nice guys, you might have opened a new door of options for 6th gen owners
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Old September 24th, 2004, 02:21 AM   #9
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Wow.. great r&d work.. way way !!
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Old September 24th, 2004, 08:05 AM   #10
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the shock is about 1" shorter.
It makes sense. The strut assembly was engineered 1in shorter to match the lower ride height.
The curb weights for the 6th/7th gen coupe are the same ~3300 lbs, also the same for weight distribution.
With the only variables=tires & sways, I see no problems other than installation.
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tell us how it goes bro =] .. i really want a subtle drop because my new rims and tires are frekkin pretty thick since i didnt go to the route with low profile tires .. im riding on 215/50/17's .. and the wheel gap got pretty smaller due to the size of the big tires ..
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Old September 27th, 2004, 07:33 AM   #12
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I installed these Friday night on my 98. The drop is about 1" but the ride is the biggest change. It is firm but not harsh and makes the car much more responcive.
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hey san marino, had any trouble with the install???...any custom mods u had to do to install it???....
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Old September 27th, 2004, 10:00 AM   #14
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hey san marino, had any trouble with the install???...any custom mods u had to do to install it???....
Mods are listed in my previous post. Change out lower bushing on rear, Slot strut tower.
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Great work Joe
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Mods are listed in my previous post. Change out lower bushing on rear, Slot strut tower.
Joe.. can you post the part # (that 6gen need to get to custom change it to fit) so people know what to order..
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Old September 27th, 2004, 11:46 AM   #17
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Joe.. can you post the part # (that 6gen need to get to custom change it to fit) so people know what to order..
Here is the part # for the lower bushing 52622-S84-A01 I have them for $8.56each you need 2. I will add them to the website.
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You could always make a 6th gen kit, that includes those bushings with the HFP susp
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Old September 27th, 2004, 08:55 PM   #19
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Thanks for the R/D SanMarino Coupe.
The HFP pkg was designed to work with 215/50VR-17 Yokohamas and the coupe's 25.4/13 sways. Any changes here would affect the handling.
Joe , re your test drive...Was it on stock 16in wheels/tires/sways?

Problem 1.
Bushing 52622-S84-A01 , $8.56each ..Not found.
I did see the bushing kit , 98-02 HFP Adapter Kit at 50$ .
Problem 2.
I left you a email on your web site. Is there any way to FedEx Ground to Area 51 Canada? (No.. there are no UFOs here)
Why? UPS calculates shipping at 223$

Cool...A Honda factory solution to the sloppy rebound dampening/floaty feeling in my AV6.
I looking foward to test driving my new suspension
Thanks again.

A word of warning here for all 6th gens..so everyone doesn't get sued.
As I said before , the HFP pkg is designed for the 7th gen coupe.
Your AV6s tires and sways are different, so handling balance is changed.
Generally the balance will shift to less understeer, and more oversteer at the cornering limits. Test carefully, the AV6 is not a race car.

That said, Let the ordering commence.

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Old September 28th, 2004, 05:40 AM   #20
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My 98 is all stock, I am on RE92 Bridgestones. The car is much easier to drive the push inherent in the design is reduced but not eliminated. What I like most is the float the car had before is gone.

There is no easy way to ship to Canada. We have been burned to many times with lost orders using USPS. I will check your email.
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Old September 28th, 2004, 05:42 AM   #21
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You could always make a 6th gen kit, that includes those bushings with the HFP susp
way ahead of you captain to-late
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Thanks for the R/D SanMarino Coupe.
The HFP pkg was designed to work with 215/50VR-17 Yokohamas and the coupe's 25.4/13 sways. Any changes here would affect the handling.
Joe , re your test drive...Was it on stock 16in wheels/tires/sways?

Problem 1.
Bushing 52622-S84-A01 , $8.56each ..Not found.
I did see the bushing kit , 98-02 HFP Adapter Kit at 50$ .
Problem 2.
I left you a email on your web site. Is there any way to FedEx Ground to Area 51 Canada? (No.. there are no UFOs here)
Why? UPS calculates shipping at 223$

Cool...A Honda factory solution to the sloppy rebound dampening/floaty feeling in my AV6.
I looking foward to test driving my new suspension
Thanks again.

A word of warning here for all 6th gens..so everyone doesn't get sued.
As I said before , the HFP pkg is designed for the 7th gen coupe.
Your AV6s tires and sways are different, so handling balance is changed.
Generally the balance will shift to less understeer, and more oversteer at the cornering limits. Test carefully, the AV6 is not a race car.

That said, Let the ordering commence.


great! .. you said it was designed for 215/50/17 yokohama's?? .. good stuff cuz i just got those tires installed on my rims =]
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Old September 29th, 2004, 01:01 PM   #24
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designed for 215/50/17 yokohama's??
If you can match the 04 HFP setup, Great !
I give your setup a 9.5 out of 10.
Yokohama AVS ES100 or Sport, hi perf sticky summer tires are a must have.
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unfortunately .. i have the yoko yk420's ..
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Old September 29th, 2004, 11:07 PM   #26
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i have the yoko yk420's
yk420??... A generic jobber tire from Discount Tire. Sorry to say it has poor reviews for handling.
http://www.epinions.com/Yokohama_YK4...splay_~reviews

To get 100% from the HFP, and turn your AV6 into a G machine, gummier performance tires are needed.

For AS tires check http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/uhpas.jsp or http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/hpas.jsp

There is good feedback from owners with Falken 512s, Toyo Proxes 4 or T1-S.
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Old September 30th, 2004, 06:16 AM   #27
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To get 100% from the HFP, and turn your AV6 into a G machine, gummier performance tires are needed.
There is more to this kit then just trying to get max G's in a corner. The car responds great for everyday driving also, If your tired of the floating feeling this kit is perfect. If you want quicker steering responce this kit will help and it doesn't knock your teeth out when you hit some rough road.
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yk420??... A generic jobber tire from Discount Tire. Sorry to say it has poor reviews for handling.
http://www.epinions.com/Yokohama_YK4...splay_~reviews

To get 100% from the HFP, and turn your AV6 into a G machine, gummier performance tires are needed.

For AS tires check http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/uhpas.jsp or http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/hpas.jsp

There is good feedback from owners with Falken 512s, Toyo Proxes 4 or T1-S.

sorry im about to go OFFtopic .....

faaawk! .. my dad even said they were good tires .... gaawd damn .. see i listen to my dad cuz he didnt want me going with low profile tires but i still wanted Toyos or soem Falken Ziex ... craaaap ..

what do i do now? .. just go with these tires until the thread is out? .. and they costed $130 each with another $18 for lifetime warranty .. wth? did i just get ripped off? ..

thanks for any if all help .. tony
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No , not ripped off. When buying tires you always have tradeoffs.
It depends on what you are looking for.
If it's ride /comfort, long wear , affordable and low noise, these tires are fine. For handling there not so hot.
Don't feel bad, these type of tires are OEM on the AV6. Mine are Michelin MXV4s.

Compared to A/S, Hi perf tires always have a stiffer ride, shorter tread life and run noiser. And unless your dad is named Mario, most parents will hate these tires.

Don't just listen to my 2 cents.
Ask yourself , am I happy with the way my rides and handles? If not you can exchange for....
Yokohama ES100 215/45ZR-17 87W are the same $, but these are summer tires.
I not sure about A/S, Discount's web store has a limited selection, no Toyos or Falkens.
Nitto NT-450 Extreme Performance 225/50R-17 94V has good owner feedback.
http://www.epinions.com/Nitto_NT_450...splay_~reviews

Anybody want to add their 2 cents?
Good luck, I hope this helps. Note, I have had no experience with these brands, so don't quote me.
As said before the HFP has been tuned for sticky hi po tires. Don't use minivan tires and expect sports car handling.

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yep my dad hates them ..


in the future ill get some lower profile stickies ..

but i will get the HFP suspension kit no doubt because it is the ideal lowering length for me .. 1 inch is good enough for the rough pot hole filled roads of Michigan ..
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