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July 6th, 2005 12:32 PM
dymondawg I learned to drive stick when I was in Seattle back in summer of 03, a very challenging feat. Anyhow, I'm glad I got the manual, being able to pick and choose my gears is kinda sweet - not to mention the power being there at my beckoning call.

I heard that whole d3 thing kills the tranny in a much shorter timeframe than regular driving...

I wouldn't do it, whether you're doing it responsibly or not, just seems like it would be harder on the trans and engine, no?

btw; I had a 99 AV6 coupe, almost no torque til you put it in third
July 6th, 2005 10:40 AM
FinFan I use D3 when driving around in the city. I also use it on the highway to get a good jump.
July 5th, 2005 11:37 PM
sumptimwong haha yea, but i guess it depends on how an individual chooses to define better ;D i have to admit that i miss an auto when im trying to parallel park on those nasty hills of SF -_-
July 4th, 2005 02:47 AM
$ilverbullet
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Originally Posted by sumptimwong
i still say manual is 100x better than tiptronic, no offense guys! i would never be jealous of D3 or overdrive off or the such. the control over your vehicle comes from having a clutch, not from being able to select which gear your transmission will jump to next. imho, nothing gets better than sequential manual!
i have an auto, and obviously MANUAL is way better than TRip, and TRip is better than Auto, this is obvious if we're talk'n about speed.
July 4th, 2005 02:14 AM
sumptimwong i still say manual is 100x better than tiptronic, no offense guys! i would never be jealous of D3 or overdrive off or the such. the control over your vehicle comes from having a clutch, not from being able to select which gear your transmission will jump to next. imho, nothing gets better than sequential manual!
July 2nd, 2005 01:56 PM
BlueV6Accord Ya Tripronic is 100xs more fun than shifting an auto. And is probably alot better for your tranny/engine.
July 1st, 2005 05:20 PM
t0x23 wow i never knew an auto could do this... how about tipttronic???? why didnt honda put tiptronic for the v6 auto's? is tiptronic better than this?
April 21st, 2005 01:00 PM
The Sync
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Originally Posted by kramer2k




Want to trade? No? Come on?




An auto would be nice every now and then when I get stuck in rush hour traffic on 75
April 20th, 2005 09:57 AM
kramer2k
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Originally Posted by Plumaccordcoupe
But if it was all stop and go city miles, then it's possible that the transmission would last longer in the second car.
That's what I was getting at, stop-and-go traffic.
April 20th, 2005 09:18 AM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by kramer2k
What transmission is going to last longer? Theoretically, the transmission should last longer in the second car. Less shifting on that 20-mile stretch of road. I'm sure it's negligible, but who knows....
Well if the 20 mile stretch of road in my example is all highway miles, the transmission would last longer in the first car. But if it was all stop and go city miles, then it's possible that the transmission would last longer in the second car.

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Originally Posted by 99%StockAV6
D3 also keeps the torque converter from locking in most cases (well it did on my old 2001 AV6).
Yeah, I've never noticed it locking while I'm in D3. So if that's true for the 7th gen auto, then it would hurt gas mileage even more than many would think.



April 20th, 2005 08:52 AM
99%StockAV6 D3 also keeps the torque converter from locking in most cases (well it did on my old 2001 AV6).
April 20th, 2005 07:12 AM
kramer2k
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Originally Posted by Plumaccordcoupe
Well lets say your car is going down a road at 50 MPH at around 1500 rpm in D (5th gear). Now lets say another 7th gen AV6 is going down the same road and at the same speed but in D3 at around 3500 rpm. And lets say this road is the 20 mile stretch you take to work every day. Which engine do you think is going to last longer?
What transmission is going to last longer? Theoretically, the transmission should last longer in the second car. Less shifting on that 20-mile stretch of road. I'm sure it's negligible, but who knows....

Honestly, that's why I first started doing it. My transmission shifts constantly on my 5 mile city stretch and I was tired of it. So I started using D3 instead.
April 20th, 2005 07:06 AM
0430Steve i bought the car thanks. and no, i don't drive it intelligently. i think my trans will go earlier than i would like, but i don't plan on keeping the car that long.
April 19th, 2005 09:16 PM
Dtownz Thrillah d3 is the same as d4 but d3 keeps the tranny from shifting into the 4th gear .. hence your car will be higher in RPMs if you leave it in d3 and drive ....


i do it sometimes .. but i use it intelligently =]
April 19th, 2005 09:14 PM
Kiet i just drive in D4... i was never taught about the D's..... dont know much about shifting in automatic.... is d3 suppose to be faster than d4????
April 19th, 2005 09:02 PM
aceofspades626
April 19th, 2005 08:51 PM
RP V6 coupe
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Originally Posted by 0430Steve
i use d3 all the time. use it a lot in the city so i have the torque ready and standing by. and i love dropping it down into d3 for flooring it on the freeway to pass people.

hit 110 in d3 today, ran that beeyotch all the way up to redline.
let me guess you didn't buy the car yourself.
April 19th, 2005 07:40 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by 0430Steve
i use d3 all the time. use it a lot in the city so i have the torque ready and standing by. and i love dropping it down into d3 for flooring it on the freeway to pass people.

hit 110 in d3 today, ran that beeyotch all the way up to redline.


I suggest you start praying for your engine/tranny .



April 19th, 2005 07:33 PM
0430Steve i use d3 all the time. use it a lot in the city so i have the torque ready and standing by. and i love dropping it down into d3 for flooring it on the freeway to pass people.

hit 110 in d3 today, ran that beeyotch all the way up to redline.
April 19th, 2005 07:26 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by aceofspades626
Oh, don't get me wrong, I totally follow what you're saying about the ability to wear the hell outa your engine. I'm just saying that if you use D3 intelligently (I know sometimes it's a lot to ask of people) you shouldn't be causing trouble for yourself.
Yeah, using it "intelligently" won't cause any problems overall compared to just leaving the select lever in D (5th gear) and letting it downshift automatically. I use D3 in my car sometimes when I need to pass a bunch of cars or when I get bored driving on highway at 2 am . 4th gear in the 6th gen AV6 is huge!



April 19th, 2005 07:19 PM
aceofspades626 Oh, don't get me wrong, I totally follow what you're saying about the ability to wear the hell outa your engine. I'm just saying that if you use D3 intelligently (I know sometimes it's a lot to ask of people) you shouldn't be causing trouble for yourself.
April 19th, 2005 07:14 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by aceofspades626
If you're holding 3500 in 3rd for an extended period of time, then #1 you're doin more than 50. And #2 should be shifting into 4th and if someone isn't aware of that then they deserve to wear their engine down.
It was just an example, but you get my point .



April 19th, 2005 07:13 PM
aceofspades626 If you're holding 3500 in 3rd for an extended period of time, then #1 you're doin more than 50. And #2 should be shifting into 4th and if someone isn't aware of that then they deserve to wear their engine down.
April 19th, 2005 07:03 PM
ipribadi Hmm .. I actually don't understand you guys ..

I would say D3 is only useful when speeds >60mph .. highway passing, the blasts from 75mph (right after VTEC kicks in) to 95 mph is especially sweet.

Coz if you're running around 40-50mph, any romp on the pedal will kick you back to 2nd. The idea of keeping it in D3 is that you won't have the lag from the tranny kickin down a gear or two rite?

Btw, I think the 3rd gear (4th too) is too tall. I hate kicking in 3rd at 60mph at 4K rpm ... not enuf power there.
The Accord should be a 6 speed ... wait, that's what the 6MT is ..
April 19th, 2005 06:51 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by aceofspades626
Premature engine wear?
So long as you aren't letting the RPM's run up way too high in 3rd, it's no different on your engine than D(5).
Well lets say your car is going down a road at 50 MPH at around 1500 rpm in D (5th gear). Now lets say another 7th gen AV6 is going down the same road and at the same speed but in D3 at around 3500 rpm. And lets say this road is the 20 mile stretch you take to work every day. Which engine do you think is going to last longer?



April 19th, 2005 06:37 PM
aceofspades626 Premature engine wear?
So long as you aren't letting the RPM's run up way too high in 3rd, it's no different on your engine than D(5).

Thanks for starting this thread Tane. I drive city streets to work. Tried keepin it in D3 today.
I love it.
April 19th, 2005 04:32 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by albaughrsx
Sounds like it will go faster then just driving it in D DRIVE. later kids
It will be faster but thier are two major cons if you always drive in D3 compared to just leaving it in D (5th gear).

1. Premature engine wear
2. Increased gas consumption



April 19th, 2005 04:27 PM
albaughrsx Looks like i'll be driving in d3 tonight when I get off work to see what its like. Sounds like it will go faster then just driving it in D DRIVE. later kids
April 19th, 2005 02:18 PM
OwAce ahha gotcha..for me too much torque is when you start wheelspinning and your like crap must let off the throttle.,


but umm anyway gooo tooorque!!!!!!
April 19th, 2005 01:16 PM
Plumaccordcoupe
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Originally Posted by OwAce
205-215 lb ft of torque is low?

That's what I'm saying! You don't know what the meaning of "lack of low end" is until you drive a 6th gen AV6 .

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Originally Posted by 03LXV6Guy
Not really...... but we don't have 205-215 ft/lbs down at 1000 to 3000 rpm, which is about the rev range that I think people are referring to here, regarding leaving it in a lower gear.
But most of it does come in at around 3000 rpm, which is leaps and bounds above what the 6th gen AV6's J30A1 engine was able to produce.



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