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Old February 26th, 2004, 12:59 PM   #1
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modifying domestic v6s

hey, just wondering how many people here actually own/are modifying domestic v6s? no offense gtp owners, but theres a ton of you, im mostly asking whos doing something NOT poopular, i.e. chevy 60 degree, dodge v6s (including the mitsu ones, i suppose), or even the ford v6s. even tho i hate ford.

i know this is kinda a newb topic, but im just curious if anyone out there is doing something that not many people are doing. if ya think so let me know
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Old February 27th, 2004, 02:32 PM   #2
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Im doing a chevy 60* v6 for a friend. his fiero's 2.8L took a crap so Im building him a new 3.4L to drop in from a 94 firebird. A little more compression, a new comp cam, a little head porting, and presto! 13's
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Old February 28th, 2004, 07:00 PM   #3
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I did some stuff, check my sig... But, I'm getting a new car soon, hopefully sometime in summer (a 6 speed).
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Old February 29th, 2004, 04:38 PM   #4
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heh, i got a friend with a fiero down in corpus thats in need of an engine and ive been trying to talk him into a 3.4. ive also got a 87 cimarron that streeeeetches the definition of 'running' that i want to put a 3.4 into, and then totally strip and have that be my autocrosser so i can retire my too-cool-to-beat-on dodges. lol.

on that line, ive been wondering how the new 3.5 picked up 25 hp over the 3.4.. i know its got a radically different intake, but apparently the block and heads are the same as current 3.4.. know anything about it?

as to the explorer, what engine is that? 4.0, 4.2, ohv, ohc? i dont know which of fords v6s goes into what (since i conveniently dont look at any ford info for some mysterious reason, lol) and what kinda gains did you get?

ever run it in the 1/4?

im starting to get a little pissy because fords v6s are finally catching up the 150hp dynasty.. up to now ive been able to outrun even a stock 5 speed 00-up v6 stang (despite a 50 hp disadvantage?? lol) up to about 120 (my speedo stops there anyway, and my nerve shortly after) but fords kicking it up. grr.

anybody else?
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It's an 4.0L SOHC. My car puts 210 hp and 255 torque stock...(I think) after my mods I estimate about 240hp. I did not test the 1/4 mile... However, my 0-60 is pretty impressive for my heavy car, it's in the 7.2-7.7sec... depends on the weather. My top speed was 118mph and then it starts to quit, limiter is 120 but that was before my Jet Power Modules upgrade... I have not tested it lately... I hope to take it to the track one day and test it... but first I want to lower it down about 1 or 1.5 inch .

My parents bought me this car when it came out, they wanted an SUV... I like it, it's really nice and everything... I just feel like having a faster (6speed) race car... hopefully I'll get one sometime in summer.
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Old February 29th, 2004, 09:12 PM   #6
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I got the LA1 3.4L OHV in my GAGT.

I got almost all the intake side ready just waiting on some new parts. I got a SLP cat back on. And then porting and headers later this year.


And no need saying much about the 1989TTA
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89tta? i almost stole one of those once.. whether it was a good thing i didnt or not i still havent decided... very cool car.

one thing about the headers on the GAGT, how much are they putting to the wheels? i read a thread or two on GAGT.com but they didnt say.
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it alone prob does 10-15hp

But if you free up the rest of the system you can prob easily get 20-25 by adding headers.
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Old March 8th, 2004, 08:27 PM   #9
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I was thinking about it and still am. I dunno yet.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 01:55 PM   #10
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huh?

thinking about headers or what?
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Old March 12th, 2004, 03:37 AM   #11
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^I think he means that he's thinking about modding his SHO
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Old March 12th, 2004, 04:42 PM   #12
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^I think he means that he's thinking about modding his SHO


When I first bought it I was going to mod it, but its my daily driver and I plan on getting rid of it thsi summer. So no sense on putting money into it.
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Old March 13th, 2004, 01:43 PM   #13
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ahh ok. speaking of shos, i saw a NICE red auto 2nd gen 3.2 with 62k down the road from me for a little over 5k. looked like a great deal, very clean.
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Yeah that sounds like a rare one.
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Old April 1st, 2004, 08:52 PM   #15
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Old April 1st, 2004, 10:26 PM   #16
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i sorta built a 4.3 a few years back in my 92 s-10. yeah i know it's a truck motor, and i know it's practically a 5.7 w/ 2 cylinders chopped off, but it hauled ars. it was a TBI motor so it wasn't a HO vortec motor. i used mostly Edelbrock stuff, i.e. throtle body, performer manifold, headers, and cam. i also had a JET chip and 180 degree thermostat. dual custom exhuast with the ever so popular flowmaster 3 chambers. nice little sleeper
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I would like to do something with the Galant 3.8 liter, but there is not even so much as and air filter out for this car!
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I would like to do something with the Galant 3.8 liter, but there is not even so much as and air filter out for this car!
lol not quite a domestic v6...
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I would like to do something with the Galant 3.8 liter,
dont tell anybody, but im putting that motor in my avenger
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dont tell anybody, but im putting that motor in my avenger
No, No way!
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Old September 17th, 2004, 10:11 PM   #21
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yep.. once i get the money

hoping to be first 14 second n/a avenger.

the swap is pretty much already worked out, there are 3 3.5 swapped cars that i know of and the only difference in the 3.8 is bore and stroke and the manifolds.
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Old September 18th, 2004, 10:33 AM   #22
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I wanna slap a turbo on my 3.4 DOHC LQ1 motor, that would be sweeeeettt.

I still find it funny, even stock as my 3.4 is now, I can walk on GrandPrix's 03' MonteCarlo SS's, pretty much anything that doestnt have a L67 motor in it.
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Old September 19th, 2004, 08:28 PM   #23
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yeh the lq1 has a LOT of potential, especially your car since it has the better top end.

turbo would be AWESOME. i say go for it!! those things already run deep in the 15s, and with 20+ hp/psi you'll be running 12s on like 10 psi, hehe
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Old September 20th, 2004, 10:21 PM   #24
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I'd just have to really be good at chaning the timing belt a lot then, LOL
I know somone that does have a turbo on a LQ1, dunno what HP/TQ hes got, or times.

A lot of people seem to go for an L67 swap for some reason.
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Old September 21st, 2004, 12:06 AM   #25
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L67 = 3.8L series II? If so its because its a much stronger and well proven engine with lots of support. The 60* v6's never got a huge following so the aftermarket isen't big for them.
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Old September 21st, 2004, 09:53 PM   #26
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i think the reason for the l67 swaps is because they're less complex, and cheaper to fix if they break..

but lets face it.. turbo cars with badass top ends haul better than supercharged 2 valve cars with roots blowers. gtp people may disagree but im sure that at any given boost level a turbo lq1 will outrun a supercharged 3.8.
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Old September 22nd, 2004, 07:54 AM   #27
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Sorry Vigo, but I thought you were joking. The swap is interesting, That's a good time for any N/A car. Any thoughts on forced induction? bored & stroked, domestic only? O.K. I'll turn around and leave now! I thought the Galant 3.8 single overhead cam had more in common with the domestics. Oh well!
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Turbo with top-end = spooled hp ? Kinda in its wheel house.

But i have seen some GTPs knock out supras in the 1/4 as well.

Turbo 3.8L from the 80s = best of both worlds.



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hehe..

the gtp and supra comparison is kinda apples to oranges.. i know a guy with an utter POS 85 or so supra body with an utterly stock 89 turbo motor in it that runs 13.7 on stock boost.. theres a big weight difference, but gtps have a HARD time breaking out of the 300s hp.. on a supra its pretty much a turn of the boost controller and maybe an fpr away.

but anywho i wasnt joking about the swap.

i also dont mind talking about mitsu motors but the 6g74 really isnt domestic.. i talk about the sohc 6g72s like they are because dodge sold a million or two of em and they had almost entirely different top ends so its like a domestic motor to me.
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Theres almost 0 aftermarket stuff for the LQ1, no CAI, no chips, nothing. Tons of exterio mods, like a body kit that makes it look like a mid 90's NASCAR w/ trunk lip.
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