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Old April 24th, 2004, 09:41 AM   #1
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you're reffering to the new honda v6, right? not all vues have great v6's. :P
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All 04 VUEs have the Honda 3.5l/250hp and 5 spd trans. The Red Line is the hot one with lowered suspension ,18in. wheels and body kit.
GM VUE concept, complete with a Comptech supercharger.


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Old April 28th, 2004, 08:22 PM   #4
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LoL when the honda deal is over GMs prolly gonna stick the DOHC 3.6L in there, and itll be making the same power caddys are making, lol!
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LoL when the honda deal is over GMs prolly gonna stick the DOHC 3.6L in there
The question is why did GM use a Honda V6 in the Vue when they were already making a 3.6L VVT V6 .



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there is like 3 hooked up ones in ann arbor.... with body kits and rims
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Old April 29th, 2004, 07:36 AM   #7
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I never thought these words would ever be said together, GM, Honda and Comptech.
The power train guys must have had a coronary and crapped out a socket wrench when given orders by the chief engineer.
Yeah, take this Honda VTEC V6, bolt on a Comptech SC and stuff it into that VUE.
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Old April 29th, 2004, 05:40 PM   #8
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WEll Honda needed Diesel Engines for Europe, so GM was all sure... whatll u give us? and honda was all... well u can use the 3.5L

GM was all... hmm well the 3.6L isnt ready yet, this would make a great engine for the VUE in the meantime!

So, yeah... thats it until the honda deal is up
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the only reason i asked is because the early vues got a different 3.0 which isnt exactly fantastic. id love to see the 3.6 in the vue..

here's a question: why did gm put the 3.4 ohv in the cheyenne when the same platform gets a far superior honda motor in the saturn version?? did they think chevy owners would be offended and saturn owners wouldnt care? further, did they think we wouldnt notice that for the same price or possibly better they could get a better powertrain in the same platform just by getting a saturn instead of a chevy? and why did the cheyenne take so long?

ahh well. its dumb. but id like to know their reasoning.
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WEll Honda needed Diesel Engines for Europe, so GM was all sure... whatll u give us? and honda was all... well u can use the 3.5L

GM was all... hmm well the 3.6L isnt ready yet, this would make a great engine for the VUE in the meantime!

So, yeah... thats it until the honda deal is up
That makes sense .

So all of the diesel engines Honda has in Europe are GM engines .

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I never thought these words would ever be said together, GM, Honda and Comptech.
The power train guys must have had a coronary and crapped out a socket wrench when given orders by the chief engineer.
Yeah, take this Honda VTEC V6, bolt on a Comptech SC and stuff it into that VUE.




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That makes sense .

So all of the diesel engines Honda has in Europe are GM engines .
Eh... sorta... some ofthem are, but honda created perhaps the best diesel engine over there and i believe is starting to use that.

and the EQUINOX (cheyenne ) gets the 3.4L cause its cheap as heck to build and gets decent gas mileage... i dont know why they didnt just use the ultra efficient 3.5L... but the 3.4L is just fine too, it has plenty of torque where u need it. just dont go out racing in it

EQUINOX SS (rummored) oughta be pretty sweet tho
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and the EQUINOX (cheyenne )
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yeh realized that a little after i posted and then never came back and fixed it.. lol.. i was thinking of that goofy chevy concept truck.

why used the 3.4 when the new 3.5 is used in the malibu? personally, i think if the equinox cant keep up with a 3.0 escape, which has been out for YEARS, then its an underachiever, especially considering its late arrival.
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Yep i was wondering why the 'Nox was using the china built 3.4L myself, but then i found out...

the 3.5L engine is currently at max production, a plant is being rennovated here in the good ole US of A to build the 3.5L and the 3.9L at much higher quantities. however until that is finished towards the end of this year, 3.5Ls will continue to come from mexico and the 'Nox will have to make due with the 3.4L

simple as that
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GM got honda 3.5's because honda wanted stuff like onstar navagation, plain and simple. Thats the answer you'll find in all GM press releases. Why do they have/use the 3.4 and 3.5l? Good question. Both are based on the original 2.8L 60* v6 from the 80's. But the 3.4 is a DOHC design made for camaros/firebirds/grand am GT's. The 3.5L is a new version and still a 2v head design. Why they don't just make a 3.5L DOHC motor I don't know. In fact, I don't understand why they don't just use the new sweet 3.5L I5 DOHC vvt that makes 225hp and mucho torque.
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Uhh B&S.. the 3.4L is available in OHV and DOHC form (err was....) they were just different heads.

there was a 3.5L DOHC engine, the ShortStar, aint it sucked.

Just wait, Multivalve pushrods are right around the corner along with VVT and all that stuff
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Uhh B&S.. the 3.4L is available in OHV and DOHC form (err was....) they were just different heads.
Yes I know the blocks are the same, thats why I said 60* v6 family from the old 2.8 [then 3.1, then 3.4, now 3.5] I forgot the f-body 3.4 was a 2v head though

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Thats a completely different engine family. That was a northstar v8 - 2 cylinders, and never lived up to its rated power. Im talking about the 60* v6 family.
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well, saying the 3.4 ohc and dohc share blocks is an oversimplification, but i think we all got it.

the current 3.4 is only ohv.

so you're saying that gm is giving northstar technology or rights or something to honda in return for some v6s? this is news to me.
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so you're saying that gm is giving northstar technology or rights or something to honda in return for some v6s? this is news to me. [/B][/QUOTE]

^ I work for Saturn and this is what they told me, either way, that engine is kick-ass in the Vue, and it beats the snot out of the Equinox and any other small SUV out there (and it's Onstar by the way). Why GM would put a less powerful engine in a bigger version of the Vue, I don't know, but hey it gives me the advantage so I don't mind!
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so you're saying that gm is giving northstar technology or rights or something to honda in return for some v6s? this is news to me.
Not northstar the 4.6 v8's in caddy's, but onstar the navagation stuff.
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LOL, we should create a 'Domestic Gearhead' forum here on V6p so Vigo, OHV and B&S can argue about engine specs all day long.



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Not northstar the 4.6 v8's in caddy's, but onstar the navagation stuff.
god damnit, thats my second stupidass typo in one thread. at least *I* knew what i meant and havent progressed in my incoherence to the point of confusing MYSELF. YET.

and im all for the domestic gearhead thing, as long as im not the only one in there

anybody on here got a sohc 6g72/3/4? i like those too :P
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[B]god damnit, thats my second stupidass typo in one thread. at least *I* knew what i meant and havent progressed in my incoherence to the point of confusing MYSELF. YET.]/B]
LOL. SURE.......

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No, but it sounds like a mitsubishi motor.
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yeh it is.. i guess noone else here likes those either huh? lol.
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yeh it is.. i guess noone else here likes those either huh? lol.
There's probably a few people on here that like the 6g72-6g74. but definitely not bored&stroked I've never seen anybody hate something with such a passion as he hates Mitsubishi
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6g72? So that's whats vigo talking about.
Another domestic/import hybrid, Chrysler body/Mitsu engine.

My local Saturn dealer has a huge banner out front with "250 HP" plastered in huge letters to attract customers.
The motor makes this vehicle the people's choice for a fast and furious SUV.
0-60 is about 7 sec., & 1/4 mi in 15.5 sec. It'll blow the doors off my AV6 with ease.

My wish is to have this motor in a lighter Accord body. Torque (252 ft. lbs) rules !!

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My wish is to have this motor in a lighter Accord body. Torque (252 ft. lbs) rules !!
We can do much better then that

th23- you've got me figured out pretty well
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6g72? So that's whats vigo talking about.
whats so hybrid about it? the 6g72 in the old k-cars and minivans was adapted for speed density and different powerband and clearance/fitment, but the basic design is 100% mitsubishi and has been primarily used in mitsubishis, all over the planet. a new eclipse with a sohc 6g72 and a manual can almost run 15 flat despite being in a 3000+lb car, and it still makes 200-210 hp on only 9:1 compression. theres quite a few fast 3.0s out there. the 3.5s are all very much less than ideal in breathing, but put in a 3.0 or 2.5 car they do alright. the new 3.8 in the galant pushes it to low 15s with a 4 spd auto in a 3400lb car.. and of course the 3s cars have been hauling ass for over a decade..

i guess im ranting oops.

to each his own. i personally like those motors.
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