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Old February 26th, 2006, 02:39 AM   #1
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A Chrysler??? Ya gotta be kiddin'.

No kiddin'. I just bought a 2001 Chrysler -- a Town & Country LX minivan, no less. But hey, it's got a V6 -- 3.3l. Sorry if I am in the wrong place, but there ain't a lot of resources out there in the Ether for this car.

I wanna get more performance out of it. I know I should improve the breathing -- give it more cold air, get rid of the exhaust more efficiently. But I'm havin' a tough time finding the necessary parts. I was at Summit Saturday and the guy said there was a Borla cat back system for about 700 bucks. He had it listed for my car on his screen, but when I came home and tried the Borla site and others to find a cat back for my car, I came up empty.

Someone told me I should try to get a cone filter with bent tubing, but this too is unavailable for my van. Anyone know if there is a cross-over to a different model. Maybe a Dodge or Plymouth sport sedan or something?

How 'bout an upgrade to the fuel pump, water pump or any other system? I don't want to tear the engine down and rebuild, but I wouldn't be against replacing some of the components. I've already looked at an MSD ignition, but I think I need to tackle the breathing improvements first.

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Wow, I dont even know how Chrysler engine looks like. But Borla or Flowmaster make exhaust systems for pretty much every domestic vehicles out there so you may find something there. And to improve breathing, go for K&N airfilter instead of trying to look for a coldair intake. You could try to make your own CAI I suppose, but I really dont know how the fitment and stuff would be. And I doubt it would help alot, but what do I know im no expert @ Chrysler vehicles. Good luck though!
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Thanks for the reply, Blackhawk. I did go to Summit Racing yesterday and picked up a K&N air filter. That will improve the airflow somewhat, but nothing like a cold air intake would. I did a search and found nothing made specifically for the van or the engine.

Likewise the exhaust system. Although the counter guy at Summit brought something up on his computer that was s'posed to be a Borla cat back system (about 700 bucks), I couldn't find anything when doing a Google search. The problem with looking for anything online with search terms is that who the hell would wanna make anything for a minivan? Surely there is some cross-over stuff, but I don't know anything about other DaimlerChrysler products and don't know what other cars have the same 3.3l engine.

Maybe someone else does?

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hrmm...damn

i would see if you can find out what other platforms the 3.3l went into, and go visit those forums.

we really wont be much help. i think stevtec could help you out though, he seems to have vast knowledge of the internet.
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lol you should just do custom work...custom CAI, custom exhaust lol that'd be a kickass minivan, but you shold've gotten a Honda Oddesey. I bet it has more aftermarket than a Chrysler minivan I've seen Odysseys with bodykit and stuff
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for the Odyssey. If i had to drive a minivan it would definately be the Honda Odyssey... with a j32a2 6speed swap of course!


but anways.. isn't the dodge caravan the exacy same car just badge'd differently? You might want to look into parts for the carvan also since they should fit your car aswell.
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i know there's chrysler minivan forums out there.

do a 3.8L swap
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Old February 26th, 2006, 02:04 PM   #10
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To you, maybe. It had me fooled. And it certainly gives me ideas. I can't lower mine so radically, but there are other mods I might be able to do.

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i know there's chrysler minivan forums out there.
I belong to a couple. Most are pretty quiet as concerns these vans.

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No, that's okay.

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Didnt the older Dodge Intreped/Concord/Vision have the 3.3L as a base engine or at least a variant of it? mabey you can search those cars.
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but anways.. isn't the dodge caravan the exacy same car just badge'd differently? You might want to look into parts for the carvan also since they should fit your car aswell.


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for the Odyssey. If i had to drive a minivan it would definately be the Honda Odyssey... with a j32a2 6speed swap of course!
That Odyssey only comes with an inline 4 so you would run into problems with a V6 swap .



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That Odyssey only comes with an inline 4 so you would run into problems with a V6 swap .
hunh? im pretty sure it has a v6 in the lineup currently.....
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my friend has one and all i gotta say is that it is a POS his is a 2002 model......the thing looses allignment easily, lots of rattles, unreliable electronics.....etc
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hunh? im pretty sure it has a v6 in the lineup currently.....
I think he was talking about the PS one posted, which is a JDM version, which does only come with a 4-cyl (K24). I've seen those in Singapore and Taiwan and they actually look pretty damned sweet. Very sleek, and the headlight designs are cool as hell. I hate how US market cars Japanese cars are always watered down crap compared to what the East Asian markets get.
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This thread is about a min-van...... I'm outta here ha ha
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So, are some of you saying I am in the wrong place? Hmmm?

I went to Reno yesterday to check on some upgrades and modifications. I had used a driveline and gear shop on several occasions since 1994 and they always did high quality work and were a friendly bunch, so I asked them for some recommendations. They gave me a short list of shops to visit.

One of the purposes of this van is to pick up materials and supplies for my floor covering business of 35 years. It's a small business in a very small town, so a couple times a month I will need to pull a trailer to Reno, get a roll of carpet or 3, a few sheets of plywood, etc. Pulling a trailer is hard on the transmission and one way to combat the wear and tear on a tranny is to keep it cool. The transmission shops I took it to all said the same thing, that the stock cooler was as large and efficient as any after market cooler. So instead of a cooler, I will be having the tranny serviced and having an additive poured down the neck to improve cooling.

One of the best performance enhancing modifications you can do to a car is tuning the exhaust. I wanted to make mine a dual system, but that's not possible without major modifications. Instead, I will be getting 2 1/2" tubing mandrel bent from the cat back. A MagnaFlow muffler and a resonator and ending in a fat oval tip out the back. I've been promised noticeable difference in power.

All that work should be completed by Monday evening. I had to get some studded snows put on just for that Reno trip yesterday and flipped through the wheel and tire wish book while I was waiting. Now I can't wait 'til Spring.

Someone suggested swapping the 3.3 throttle body out for the 3.8 TB. I am not sure that is possible, so I will look into that. I am also considering the MSD ignition. Any of you have experiences in those areas you would like to share?

Thanks for helping me bring the thread back on topic.

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I think he was talking about the PS one posted, which is a JDM version, which does only come with a 4-cyl (K24). I've seen those in Singapore and Taiwan and they actually look pretty damned sweet. Very sleek, and the headlight designs are cool as hell. I hate how US market cars Japanese cars are always watered down crap compared to what the East Asian markets get.
i was just bustin his balls.

US market cars Japanese cars? i need a couple of aspirin..that made my thread hurt and i still dont get what your saying...

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One of the best performance enhancing modifications you can do to a car is tuning the exhaust. I wanted to make mine a dual system, but that's not possible without major modifications. Instead, I will be getting 2 1/2" tubing mandrel bent from the cat back. A MagnaFlow muffler and a resonator and ending in a fat oval tip out the back. I've been promised noticeable difference in power.

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dont bother with mandrel bending, unless the bend is extreme, (imo over 30 degrees). its not worth the extra money.

what is the exhaust system look like (headers back). a cat back may not correctly serve your purpose.
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US market cars Japanese cars? i need a couple of aspirin..that made my thread hurt and i still dont get what your saying...

Example: The East Asian market Toyota Camry is a much more upscale and classier looking ride than the US market Toyota Camry. Has a much more elegant looking front end and grille, side view mirror turn signals, better aero and trim pieces, better fogs, a different trunklid with tail light extensions that look 100x better than the US market one without them, and it goes on and on and on. Interiors look better also. Would really have to see it in person to drive the point home. Checkout some foreign car sites. Pics do not really do it justice, but look at http://www.toyotasingapore.com.sg/sh...y/gallery.html
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Example: The East Asian market Toyota Camry is a much more upscale and classier looking ride than the US market Toyota Camry. Has a much more elegant looking front end and grille, side view mirror turn signals, better aero and trim pieces, better fogs, a different trunklid with tail light extensions that look 100x better than the US market one without them, and it goes on and on and on. Interiors look better also. Would really have to see it in person to drive the point home. Checkout some foreign car sites. Pics do not really do it justice, but look at http://www.toyotasingapore.com.sg/sh...y/gallery.html
lol this time i was making fun of the way you said what you said. US market cars japanese cars..instead of say USDM japanese cars.

and i totally agree with you on the A(sian)DM versions, versus their bland USDM versions.
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^ agreed. but that camry is not the new one...

check out HK official Toyota website: http://www.toyota.com.hk/index.html

notice the new camry even come HID as stock equipment, i don't think the one here will not come with HID at all even at the highest trim.. i bet..

and look into Alphard, Picnic and Previa... aren't they look x100 better than the Sienna?

also check out: http://www.nissan.com.hk/eng/model_lineup.php

i believe that the Tiida and Cefiro's styling are way more refined than the Sentra and Altima here... anyways, that's just my personal opinion...

sorry for off-topic and Grump, have fun modding the van! make sure to post some pics after the exhaust is complete! it must be one of a kind in the small town you are living in!

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dont bother with mandrel bending, unless the bend is extreme, (imo over 30 degrees). its not worth the extra money.

what is the exhaust system look like (headers back). a cat back may not correctly serve your purpose.
I had some pros look it over and give me estimates. The cat back is a viable solution. Thank you for your comments.

Since most of the rest of you have piss poor manners and don't seem to know how to start your own threads, you're welcome to do with this one as you please now. As you mentioned in a prior post, there are other forums. Since I don't have much vested in this one and you guys do, it's no big deal. I'm happy to learn so early about the lack of etiquette you all seem to have. An old fart like me appreciates a little more self control in his fellow members than you possess.

Now, go ahead and practice your insults and invectives. I won't be back to read them, but your friends will certainly see how inventive you can be in the face of rejection.

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lol, thats how most threads are everywhere. prone to go OT.

the reason why i asked for a exhaust pic, so that i can get a gauge of what the bends/curves/routing the exhaust goes through post the headers. also the location of cats, and the location of sensors on cats.

mandrel bending is expensive, and like i mentioned before doesnt show much advantage unless you get into high bends.

btw also looking into straightpiping your exhaust system with oem mufflers. ive done that and i like it a lot.
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^ agreed. but that camry is not the new one...

check out HK official Toyota website: http://www.toyota.com.hk/index.html

notice the new camry even come HID as stock equipment, i don't think the one here will not come with HID at all even at the highest trim.. i bet..

and look into Alphard, Picnic and Previa... aren't they look x100 better than the Sienna?

also check out: http://www.nissan.com.hk/eng/model_lineup.php

i believe that the Tiida and Cefiro's styling are way more refined than the Sentra and Altima here... anyways, that's just my personal opinion...

sorry for off-topic and Grump, have fun modding the van! make sure to post some pics after the exhaust is complete! it must be one of a kind in the small town you are living in!
ooooh cool. HK sites. In Engrish too! Never thought to check those out. Thx for the links.
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my friend has one and all i gotta say is that it is a POS his is a 2002 model......the thing looses allignment easily, lots of rattles, unreliable electronics.....etc
A guy I used to work with put 2 trannys in his 2001 Odyssey, and the electronic doors kept on going out too, and he paid way more for it used than he would of a Chrysler.
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I had some pros look it over and give me estimates. The cat back is a viable solution. Thank you for your comments.
You'll probably trade-off some low-end with that, which might not be a good thing if you're going to be carrying a load since it's a work van. If you really want to get hardcore, have you seen the turbo van sites?

www.turbovan.net
www.turbominivan.com

Now that is badass.

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Since most of the rest of you have piss poor manners and don't seem to know how to start your own threads, you're welcome to do with this one as you please now. As you mentioned in a prior post, there are other forums. Since I don't have much vested in this one and you guys do, it's no big deal. I'm happy to learn so early about the lack of etiquette you all seem to have. An old fart like me appreciates a little more self control in his fellow members than you possess.

Now, go ahead and practice your insults and invectives. I won't be back to read them, but your friends will certainly see how inventive you can be in the face of rejection.

B'bye.


I just read through this whole thread and didn't find anything out of the ordinary or out of the range or acceptibility, and a lot of people seem to think I'm some fascist nazi mod too. If you think this thread is an example of poor manners and etiquette then you seriously haven't seen anything. This is not a forum of minivan owners with people who are older, responsible, have kids, and don't BS. It's mostly a bunch of kids or young adults with coupes with little to no responsibility and are fixing up their honduhs. I guess it's just not what you were expecting but oh well. Anyways, good luck fixing up your van.

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I found a forum site for you
http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/index.php?
And for your exhaust i would go universal if i where you that's what i did it to my diamante and i am happy with the results.
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At forty, I'm too young to drive a van...

You could always burn a sound effects CD of a nitro burning hemi funny car and play it in the van... sorry, I couldn't help myself.
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