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Old August 4th, 2003, 07:42 PM   #1
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Rx8 or G35

I have a 03 v6 coupe that I share with my brother. We are planning to get another car either a G35 auto coupe or a Rx8 manual. I do not know much about rotary engines or even conventional engines. Just need some input. Thanks.
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Old August 4th, 2003, 07:54 PM   #2
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G35!!

I wish I could get a coupe, but just can't with the responsibilities I have. Best ride I've been in for a long time. Especially at the price. I liked it better than the 350Z.

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Old August 4th, 2003, 08:40 PM   #3
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2 completely different cars. If I had to choose, I would go with the G35 because of the power and looks. But from my experience with Rotary engines in past RX-7 models, you really have to keep up with the daily maintenance. But a lot of R&D went into the Renesis Rotary Engine so Im thinking its a lot better than its predecessors. But they did a pretty good job of getting 210 HP from a 1.3 liter engine. Too bad the torque is 70% of it.

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G35 coupe... you can get a 6 speed!!
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G35 is pimp
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G35 slammed with lip kit and factory wing is good.
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Old August 4th, 2003, 09:32 PM   #7
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But they did a pretty good job of getting 210 HP from a 1.3 liter engine.
they got 250 hp out of it in the manual.

One question though is the reason for the auto in the g35 because of the price?

I would rather have a manual car. Though from what I hear of the dynos of three rx-8 6 speeds the hp was only 175-185 at the wheels, but in the service manual it says that a new fuel map is used after 20k miles, which most likely will fix the power, because someone also did an a/f reading during the dyno and found it to run overly rich to protect the engine at high rpms. This info come from www.rx8forum.com

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Old August 4th, 2003, 09:39 PM   #8
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get the g35, rx8 sucks.
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Old August 4th, 2003, 09:39 PM   #9
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Easy... G35!!! No question on that...
I really don't like the Mazda and its rotary engine. I've heard bad reviews about it and the torque is low for the car despite its high horsepower. You really need to rev up the engine to extract the power. I hope this helps. 'Congrats BTW...
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Old August 4th, 2003, 10:43 PM   #10
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they got 250 hp out of it in the manual.

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Really? I didnt know that. Time to read up again. Thanks for the update!
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Old August 5th, 2003, 08:59 AM   #11
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G35!
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Old August 5th, 2003, 11:11 AM   #12
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Definitely G35!

The coupe looks better than the RX-8 (my subjective view), and it has way more torque as well.

And I think the RX-8 gas mileage is pretty bad for a car of its size and with so little torque. RX-8 owners have been posting mileages of 16-18mpg, which is even worse than the G35 and most V6 cars on the road!! I guess not everyone cares about gas mileage but it's something that I keep in mind

But get the 6MT G35 (with the brembos~!)
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The RX8 will completely DEMOLISH the G35 in terms of handling. It may not seem like it has much power, but it is only slightly slower than the G35. Rotary engines specialize in revving very high. When you drive the car, you can just kick it at like 8k rpm and the engine wont mind it one bit. It is very easy to get 300+ hp with some port work on rotaries...
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2 very different cars IMO.

In terms of looks, the G35 cpe wins. I really love the front of the RX8 but I can't stand the bubbly back. The G35 just has that classy sporty coupe styling

Power wise these are 2 very different cars, if you like lots of torque down low then the it's the G35. If you like to rev the engine to 9000rpm then the RX8 will do it for you.

Handling wise, the G35 handles well for a car that size, but the RX8 should handle better.

So it really depends what you are looking for.

Oh, a little heads up on the RX8. Guys have been dynoing their RX8's with extremely disappointing results. They're getting around 180whp for a 250hp (manual) car.

Read -> http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=1

I was reading and they said it's due to a conservative fuel mapping and the regular fuel mapping doesn't change until you hit 20k miles that's a lot of miles to wait to get the full potential out of your purchase

I was thinking of getting a G35 as the car after my accord, but then I thought, I want an S2000 who knows, not happening soon, so my mind will probably change again.

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Old August 5th, 2003, 12:03 PM   #15
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they got 250 hp out of it in the manual.

One question though is the reason for the auto in the g35 because of the price?

I would rather have a manual car. Though from what I hear of the dynos of three rx-8 6 speeds the hp was only 175-185 at the wheels, but in the service manual it says that a new fuel map is used after 20k miles, which most likely will fix the power, because someone also did an a/f reading during the dyno and found it to run overly rich to protect the engine at high rpms. This info come from www.rx8forum.com
Yea the auto is way cheaper then the manual by about 2000. Im leaning more towards the G35. The only reason I wouldn't want this car is because its marked up soo damn much. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks
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I myself have been deciding about these two vehicles. Those worrying about reliability of the Renesis shouldn't worry that much because the Renesis for one is NA. Mazda has too much banking on this project for it to flop. True the Rex lacks torque but 250 from 1.3 liter engine is still amazing. Another knock on the Rx-8 is the horrible gas mileage.The g35 is pimp if you got the money. The RX-8 for me is better in my price range. But definitely If I had the cash I'd get a G35.
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hmm... actually, when driven correctly, the two cars have about the same acceleration curves in a straight line, and the rx8 will own the g35 in cornering. And don't worry about the rotary engine, since its N/A, it wont have any of the problems the old rotaries had, becuase those problems were caused by heat from the turbos. I would get the rx8 because it looks better, handles better, and is less common, while still seating 4, and accelerating the same.
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Old August 5th, 2003, 03:43 PM   #18
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Whey the heck would you want a g35 auto?

anyhoo- so maybe im going by the mag numbers here... But the rx-8 got timed faster on the 0-60 and 1/4 mile (if i remember correctly) than a g35 manual. A g35 auto would definitly be slower. The rx-8 It also pulled better on the skidpad methinks. The rx-8 is a beautiful car, in my mind better than the g35- but thats just my opinion.. I would go with the rx-8
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Old August 5th, 2003, 03:46 PM   #19
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did i mention the rx-8 has FOUR doors....... ...... yea sedans... maybe this is a new one of those freaky crossover vehicles
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Old August 5th, 2003, 06:52 PM   #20
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Guys, you really can't compare a rotary engine with a conventional engine. The Renesis engine is more like a 2.6 liter conventional engine due to how it operates and 250 hp out of 2.6 liters isn't that great.

I've never sat in a G35 but I heard the interior is cheap looking. It still looks awesome from the outside though. I'd get one of those Skyline badges for it. Hey, do the japanese get a GTR version of the new Skyline? Or are they getting the same naturally aspirated version that we get?

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Old August 5th, 2003, 08:22 PM   #21
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I've sat in both the coupe and sedan and the G35 coupe's interior is better than the sedan's interior (I recall the center stack for the coupe is actually real aluminum, not the fake plastic stuff they used in the sedan). The overall quality of the interior is on par with the Acura TSX, except maybe for the speedo and tach which doesn't look as good.

I've never sat in a RX-8, only looked into it from outside, but if you are comparing the interior of the G35 to the RX-8, I would say that the G35 actually seems to have the slightly higher quality interior.

I am pretty sure the Japanese don't have a GTR version for the skyline yet.
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from my experience having g35coupe auto for 1week and 2days... i'll definitely recommend g35coupe all the way... man this thing got some torque... u don't need to downshift to 4th gear in order to pass slower car... 5th gear about 3500rpm will own everyone(if slow cars going at constant speed)... yeah rx8 is fast only on 1/4mile.. from the roll g35 will eat it for lunch... let's say like at 60mph u start racing g35 vs. rx8 g35 will own it anytime... and g35 manual is not that fast compare to g35 auto... as i see some slips(my friends) there's about .2 seconds difference b/w mt and at... if you consider that as big difference then it's big...
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rx8 is fast only on 1/4mile.. from the roll g35 will eat it for lunch... let's say like at 60mph u start racing g35 vs. rx8 g35 will own it anytime...
Um, no. You are wrong. The rx8 has MORE of an advantage from a roll than it does off the line, which is true of all cars with high horsepower and low torque. That's because at low gears, they have to drop further out of their power bands than when driving in high gears, and since the rx8 is a 6 speed, the driver just has to select the right gear to put him in his power band, and it's game over.
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Old August 7th, 2003, 08:43 AM   #25
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here is a comparo of the rx8, g35, and a mustang.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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Both very nice cars. RX-8 is alot lighter (300-400 lbs) and better handling (50/50).

If you are going to get the automatic, then get the G35. The RX-8 revs so high that an automatic transmission will fall apart, so they detuned the engine to handle the auto tranny. Thus, the BHP is rated a lot lower than the stick.


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Old August 19th, 2003, 01:22 PM   #27
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in order to get a good 1/4 mile time you gotta drop the clutch at very high rpms (7-8k) . and what do you mean 250 hp out of 2.6 litres isnt that great?!! thats awesome! Its still only 1.3 litres though. that would be 192.3 bhp/litre
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RX8= The biggest *yawn* since the Acura TSX.
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G35 manual of course!!!
It is 2 different cars. Torque (G35) and torqueless (RX-8)
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The Manual RX-8 is now rated at 238hp, down from the original 247hp...while the auto is rated at 197hp down from the original 207hp

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos...arbuyback_x.htm
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