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Old September 15th, 2004, 11:55 AM   #1
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1992-1993 ES300/Camry V6 engine code

^^ I know they changed the engine slightly by enlarging either the bore and stroke by a couple CC's in 1994 (US models) while still keeping the engine at 3.0L. Did they change the engine code for that or is it still the 1MZ-FE
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^^ I know they changed the engine slightly by enlarging either the bore and stroke by a couple CC's in 1994 (US models) while still keeping the engine at 3.0L. Did they change the engine code for that or is it still the 1MZ-FE
I believe they are the same thats why its mostly the number one stolen vehicle. Everything just keeps swapping over.
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Old September 15th, 2004, 08:53 PM   #3
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its actually the 3VZFE or something like that... quad cam, 3.0L v6.
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its actually the 3VZFE or something like that... quad cam, 3.0L v6.
Yep The 92-93 Camry/ES300 had the 3VZ-FE rated at 185HP and 200TQ. Those suckers have a lot of low-end (being a truck engine probably has something to do with that). I have a dyno plot of a '92 Camry V6 auto with intake/exhaust and that sucker makes 157.9 peak WTQ at 2900rpm
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yeah man, I can definatley feel the differance. I love driving my 93 camry around and peeling out when I want.
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Old September 16th, 2004, 04:28 PM   #6
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Yep The 92-93 Camry/ES300 had the 3VZ-FE rated at 185HP and 200TQ. Those suckers have a lot of low-end (being a truck engine probably has something to do with that). I have a dyno plot of a '92 Camry V6 auto with intake/exhaust and that sucker makes 157.9 peak WTQ at 2900rpm
Do you also have a plot of a 1MZ-FE from the 94-96 Camry? I've always wondered why my Aunt's 92 XLE V6 feels quicker (literally pushes you back into your seat at WOT) while my Mom's 96 XLE V6 doesn't have that same effect.
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Do you also have a plot of a 1MZ-FE from the 94-96 Camry? I've always wondered why my Aunt's 92 XLE V6 feels quicker (literally pushes you back into your seat at WOT) while my Mom's 96 XLE V6 doesn't have that same effect.
I'm afraid I don't have a 94-96 Camry V6 dyno I do have a '98 Camry V6 5-speed dyno though. As far as I can tell, the torque curve of the 1MZ-FE has a similar shape to the curve of the 3VZ-FE, but it has more power throughout the entire range. So your Mom's 96 should be faster than your Aunt's 92. Maybe your Mom only runs regular in her 1MZ-FE (that would explain why it feels slower)?
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I'm afraid I don't have a 94-96 Camry V6 dyno I do have a '98 Camry V6 5-speed dyno though. As far as I can tell, the torque curve of the 1MZ-FE has a similar shape to the curve of the 3VZ-FE, but it has more power throughout the entire range. So your Mom's 96 should be faster than your Aunt's 92. Maybe your Mom only runs regular in her 1MZ-FE (that would explain why it feels slower)?
That could be the problem. In good Ol Mountain Lake, Mn (less than 2,000 pop.) the only two gas stations in town only offer 87 regular and 89 super.
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Our J30's would lose to a Camry V6 then huh? If so thats depressing.
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Old September 18th, 2004, 01:59 AM   #10
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Our J30's would lose to a Camry V6 then huh? If so thats depressing.
I'm afraid so I ran some numbers in CarTest to show how they stack up.

1993 Camry V6 XLE (3VZ-FE) 185HP 200TQ - [email protected]
1996 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 188HP 203TQ - [email protected]
1996 Camry V6 SE (1MZ-FE) 188HP 203TQ - [email protected]
2001 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 194HP 209TQ - [email protected]
2002 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 192HP 209TQ - [email protected]
1998 Accord EX V6 (J30A1) 200HP 195TQ- [email protected]

Even the old-school Camry V6 will give the AV6 a tough race. In fact, the AV6 will be playing catch-up to the very end of the track. I left the newer 1MZ-FE VVT-i and 3MZ-FE VVT-i Camrys out because they'd really make the 6G AV6 look bad
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I'm afraid so I ran some numbers in CarTest to show how they stack up.

1993 Camry V6 XLE (3VZ-FE) 185HP 200TQ - [email protected]
1996 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 188HP 203TQ - [email protected]
1996 Camry V6 SE (1MZ-FE) 188HP 203TQ - [email protected]
2001 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 194HP 209TQ - [email protected]
2002 Camry V6 XLE (1MZ-FE) 192HP 209TQ - [email protected]
1998 Accord EX V6 (J30A1) 200HP 195TQ- [email protected]

Even the old-school Camry V6 will give the AV6 a tough race. In fact, the AV6 will be playing catch-up to the very end of the track. I left the newer 1MZ-FE VVT-i and 3MZ-FE VVT-i Camrys out because they'd really make the 6G AV6 look bad
OMG! Then a Camry V6 with the TRD supercharger would demolish us, even if we were S/C'd with the Comptech one rite(regular boost pulley)? Seems liekly but maybenot since ours might push out more boost than the TRD one. Ive never really seen a TRD S/C'd camry run or slips.
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OMG! Then a Camry V6 with the TRD supercharger would demolish us, even if we were S/C'd with the Comptech one rite(regular boost pulley)? Seems liekly but maybenot since ours might push out more boost than the TRD one. Ive never really seen a TRD S/C'd camry run or slips.
Actually, the AV6 gets better performance gains from the Comptech S/C than the Camry does with the TRD S/C . Part of it has to do with the Accord's lower compression ratio (9.4 vs 10.5, lower compression is better for boost) and the rest has to do with the fact that the chip included with the TRD S/C doesn't allow boost in 1st gear on automatic Camry's to avoid blowing up the tranny. I haven't seen too many slips for S/C Camry/Solara automatics, but the ones I have seen have been in the low- to mid-15's. Pretty sad considering they run high-15's to low-16's bone stock. Now the 5-speeds OTOH, are way faster and will outrun a TRD auto, bone stock. With the S/C, they're running low-14's easily on standard boost
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Actually, the AV6 gets better performance gains from the Comptech S/C than the Camry does with the TRD S/C . Part of it has to do with the Accord's lower compression ratio (9.4 vs 10.5, lower compression is better for boost) and the rest has to do with the fact that the chip included with the TRD S/C doesn't allow boost in 1st gear on automatic Camry's to avoid blowing up the tranny. I haven't seen too many slips for S/C Camry/Solara automatics, but the ones I have seen have been in the low- to mid-15's. Pretty sad considering they run high-15's to low-16's bone stock. Now the 5-speeds OTOH, are way faster and will outrun a TRD auto, bone stock. With the S/C, they're running low-14's easily on standard boost
I have yet to see a 5spd V6 camry(97-02). Ive only heard of it and saw it in one of the old SS but never in person. Too bad that thing only comes in the CE trim. Horrible.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 12:32 AM   #14
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^ Yea, those CE V6 5-speeds are extremely rare. Hell, even the automatic V6's are pretty rare. Where I live, I see an AV6 on every corner but I hardly ever see a V6 Camry.

I wouldn't mind having a CE V6 5-speed because it would be a great sleeper. All I'd have to do is remove the V6 badge from the trunk and everybody would think it's just a regular ole slow-azz 4-banger auto and not a 5-speed V6 capable of high-14's bone stock
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