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Old January 12th, 2005, 08:52 AM   #1
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Toyota Stages World Premiere of All-New Avalon Flagship Sedan at 2005 NAIAS

http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_li...=2005avalon_r2




I just found my next car.

3.5L V6, 280hp/260tq, 0-60 in 6.6s, 22/31 mpg ratings, plenty of room, seat memory for the wife and I (6'3" vs 5'2", lol). oh yes... It's just like the Maxima, only, it's a Toyota and not a Nissan. And I like Toyotas better.

This will complement our 2002 Highlander AWD Limited very nicely. The HL for rough weather and hauling junk around, and the Avalon for long trips with its much better fuel mileage, or if you need to get someplace fast.
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Old January 12th, 2005, 09:02 AM   #2
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Old January 12th, 2005, 09:05 AM   #3
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Definitely not the sexiest looking car in its class, but that's sort of an afterthought. It's on the inside and what's under the hood that counts for me. Look at the interior. Gorgeous! And at 31 mpg this Toyota 3.5L V6 is getting 3 mpg better on the highway than the Maxima VQ35DE is, and even beats the J30A4 Accords at 30 mpg.
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the ride in that car is so smooth itll feel like ur getting 50mpg
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Old January 12th, 2005, 06:15 PM   #5
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Definitely not the sexiest looking car in its class, but that's sort of an afterthought.
I dunno, it has that Caddy with a flair of G35 sedan and defined lines like the 300 - look to it. I really like this approach Toyota took!
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In a nutshell, The Maxima is about to get .

The exterior is classier than the last gen Avalon and unlike the new Maxima, it isn't freaky looking either (opinion). The interior comes loaded with all sorts of goodies and has a very Solara look to it. And I still can't believe they put such a powerful engine in this car, especially considering the market this car is aimed at. I wouldn't be surprised if that engine ended up in the Lexus ES for it's 2006 MY. Toyota did a great job redesigning the Avalon for its 3rd generation .



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thats a very nice car asthetically beautiful on the inside and it doesnt look half bad on the outside...personally i think it looks better then the new gen maximas
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Old January 13th, 2005, 07:44 AM   #8
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http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_li...?id=sp20050110

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When it hits showrooms in February it will carry a base price of $26,350, a mere $205 higher than the MSRP on the vehicle it replaces. Like never before, the 2005 Avalon is smart money spent wisely.
For comparison, a 2005 Maxima 3.5SE A/T starts at $27,350, so this is already undercutting Nissan by a grand, and it will likely be a vehicle with significantly higher overall quality with similar performance. Once the Avalon comes out, Nissan is going to have to start rolling in more incentives to keep Maximas selling I bet.

A fully loaded Limited model will most definitely top $30k though. That gets it up into TL territory, but I'd take the better torque and superior automatics of Toyota vs H/A pos trannys any day. Of course, no 6spd manual on the Avalon though, but my next car won't be an automatic.

It would be really cool if Honda would bring the "fixed up Accord" Inspire here with the standard V6, SportShift, and other goodies. Toyota has finally realized that there's a market for people that want high end cars with luxury features but without the luxury nameplate. That's me. That's what the Maxima is, and that's what the Avalon is now. So there's definitely room for the Inspire on the playing field.
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wow.. love the interior dash..
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Old January 13th, 2005, 05:58 PM   #10
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I love the Toyotas, but I would be surprised if it kept up with the current Maximas. Alot of power with alot of weight!!! I was told a fully loaded limited will be in the high 30ks.
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Old January 13th, 2005, 06:05 PM   #11
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It has more "advertised" power than the current Maxima and no additional weight. So assuming it can hookup on launch reasonably well, it shouldn't have any problems running solid mid-14's like the Maxima does. The only problem might be VSC/TRAC equipped models, which isn't always defeatable. Nothing a fuse pulling wouldn't fix though. It should also be able to beat the TL auto as well. Same weight, more torque, more horsepower, more aggressive gearing.

A current top line Avalon XLS tops out at $33k MSRP or $35k with Navigation. The new Avalon is only $200 more than the outgoing one, and eventually they'll be selling not much above invoice.
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The limited model is suppose to be more then the XLS. I would expect to see a adjusted market value sticker for a few thousand over MSRP for the 1st 6 months and then maybe a thousand for the next 6 months after that.
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only $205 over eh? haha Toyota just keeps hurtin their profits every year to become number one.

Its ok, Its bland, its a Toyota. whats new.

interior looks a hell of a lot better than the current Avalons. Exterior looks like a Nissan crashed into a Mercedes and Infiniti hit the rear end. Engines good. Fuel economy is excellent. I bet itll drive like a boat like the current avalon, beware steVTEC... i dont know if youve driven the current avalon but its like ultra detached from the road... hopefully this new one has more road feel... but then again no car in this category would sacrifice luxury for sport.

whats up with the shifter?? and why did they make it a push-start car??!
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Hot rod Toyota, wow 280hp and a almost equal amt of tq !
To me the Avalon has the same 3/4 profile as it's bigger brother the new GS430/300.
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r those production pics?
or concept.
if its concept it will look nothing like that.
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Old January 13th, 2005, 10:28 PM   #16
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OHV - push button start is only on the Limited models. Also, yeah the current Avy is boaty but the Touring trim of the new one should be fairly decent. I wouldn't expect it to handle like a TL or Maxima but it should be okay.

And yes, those are production pictures straight off of Toyota's web page.
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OHV - push button start is only on the Limited models. Also, yeah the current Avy is boaty but the Touring trim of the new one should be fairly decent. I wouldn't expect it to handle like a TL or Maxima but it should be okay.

And yes, those are production pictures straight off of Toyota's web page.
well that interior is sexy as hell
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1 question, whats the point of buying a low end Lexus if you can get this for cheaper??
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Old January 13th, 2005, 11:04 PM   #19
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1 question, whats the point of buying a low end Lexus if you can get this for cheaper??
Yeah, that is a good question. Hopefully Toyota and Lexus know the answer.



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Old January 26th, 2005, 07:58 AM   #22
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Many people buy for the nameplate. nuff said.

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If we were to start a New Avalon forum and web address pointing to this forum....Steve, would you like to populate the forum w/ nice juicy info?

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i can see a bit of altima in the front styling and the rear is quite solaraish. but its nice for its class.
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i dont know it looks kinda weird
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Old January 27th, 2005, 01:20 AM   #27
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Definately a nice car.

As to the tranny problems with Honda...I have read no less than three articles about the Auto Trans issues Lexus/Toyota is having with their Highlander and ES series ( I am only sure about those as those were models I was looking into, possibly affects others?) Hopefully they have addressed that with this model.


As to Toyota loosing money to be number 1...Unlikely. In a Supply Chain class I had taken it said that Honda was able to cut the production cost of a 7th gen Accord over $5000 from that of a 6th gen Accord! While it makes me better understand my rattles situation, it also hints that Toyota isn't taking a hit on this one either...
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As to Toyota loosing money to be number 1...Unlikely. In a Supply Chain class I had taken it said that Honda was able to cut the production cost of a 7th gen Accord over $5000 from that of a 6th gen Accord! While it makes me better understand my rattles situation, it also hints that Toyota isn't taking a hit on this one either...
I know they cut some small things but what did they cut to reduce it by five grand?



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Old January 27th, 2005, 06:56 AM   #29
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that interior looks like a cross between the current camry and the acura rl
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Drove it today, along with the Max. No contest. The Avalon is SOOOO much nicer!!! The max is fast, but you get alot more engine and road noise. The Avalon is fast and has very little noise of any kind in the cabin.
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