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Old October 4th, 2007, 08:02 PM   #1
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What's with the propoganda Ribbon? on logo

Seriously, most people have had the sense to take the made in communist china "I support the troops by sending them away in an illegal war w/o sufficient armor" ribbon off of their cars.

This is sad.
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That's your point of view, and your opinion on what the American flag ribbon stands for. You may not be in support of the war, or the methods, you should be supportive of the troops, and that they're dying over there. Regardless of your ideology, it's disrespectful to think that the only reason the ribbon is for war.

Instead, you should think of it as we support the troops, we support the ideology that United States is founded on, regardless of what the current administration is doing. No matter win or lose, I am proud to be an American, even with the crappy administration.

That should be the stance of all Americans, and not be so hateful and close minded.

And what do you mean "most people" has taken it off? I have it on, i see EVERYONE still has it on their cars.

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That ribbon has been used to marginalize dissenting voices while the masses blindly follow and believe they are patriotic for slappin one of those on their cars. Supporting the troops would be bringing them home.
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Everyone shows their support in different ways. There is nothing you or I can do to bring them home. I have a pink ribbon on my car to support Breast Cancer awareness, there is nothing I can do to prevent that either.
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and the ribbon on the logo is for 9/11, not to support the war.
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That ribbon has been used to marginalize dissenting voices while the masses blindly follow and believe they are patriotic for slappin one of those on their cars. Supporting the troops would be bringing them home.
Word.
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And what do you mean "most people" has taken it off? I have it on, i see EVERYONE still has it on their cars.
Gingoistic behavior at it's finest.
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and the ribbon on the logo is for 9/11, not to support the war.
Cool just dont friggin link the two.
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Gingoistic behavior at it's finest.
You mean jingoistic, and what is wrong with being a patriot? America is the best damn country in the world right now.

As I was raised in 5 different countries, I have seen and learned about other cultures, and it is the best country right now.
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Old October 4th, 2007, 10:29 PM   #10
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Cool just dont friggin link the two.
I don't understand why you guys are making such a big deal about this?

It's a ribbon, that shows pride and patriotism. Why must people dilute it and contaminate it with their political opinions, and turn it into something evil and disgusting?

I have 5 of my good friends in Iraq right now, 3 of them in Special Forces. They risk their lives everyday, and I will not let someone bash on what them risking their lives, just because they don't agree with it. Regardless of what your opinion about the war is, the soldiers there needs our support. Even if they're staying, or coming home. I don't want to see anymore anti-war Vietnam hippies that bash on everything that's war related.
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Old October 4th, 2007, 11:03 PM   #12
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Kool-aid drinkers at their finest
Damn right, tired of everyone bashing on and on.... Everywhere I go, every meeting I go to, someone is always bringing up all the negatives of a society, never the positives. The media is even worse, too much negativity in our world today.

Sad how everyone perpetuates it even more, and makes joke out of it.
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LoL, did you just whip that up for this thread?
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Hypocrisy at its finest. The "illegal war" and body armor stuff is all propaganda, yet you then accuse those that don't agree with you of propagandizing too. Or is that "projection" at its finest? I love how the left claims to be all about openness, respect, diversity, and acceptance, yet then they try to attack and shut down anyone on the right that disagrees with them, as if "free speech" in this country only applies to left-leaning speech. I think not!


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Old October 5th, 2007, 08:38 AM   #18
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The left and right are always battling. That's a given. If you are all so unhappy about the war, go out and vote like RESPONSIBLE American should. Come-on Steve, you know just as well as I do that both sides are always trying to shut each other down. That's pratically a given. Heck, Bush was the one who constantly called Senators and Congressmen "Un-American" for opposing the war back in 2002-2003. I still remember Senator Tom Dashcle taking offense about Bush's insinuation that since Tom was against the war that he was somehow Un-American. If anything, for the past few years its been the "Right" that has been going around calling anyone who opposed the war to be "Un-American" or "Un-Patriotic" Heck, this whole anti-war issues has only started getting mass appeal in the last 2 years. You hardly heard a peep about this during the first few years of the war. Why? Because we had unreasonable expectations that we would be finished w/ Iraq by now. It's only because its been draggin on for so long that the American public has turned against the war and are now only questioning why we went in the first place.

In 2004, 47% of 18-24 year old citizens voted, 66% of citizens 25 and older voted. http://www.civicyouth.org/quick/youth_voting.htm

How did President Bush get re-elected? Maybe if enough 18-24 year olds got off their lazy butts and away from the internet forums to go vote, then we wouldn't have ended up w/ Bush.

Young adults voted for the Democratic candidate over the Republican candidate in races for the House of Representatives (58% vs. 38%), the Senate (60% vs. 33%) and governor (55% vs. 34%).
http://www.civicyouth.org/quick/youth_voting.htm

And no, that ribbon has not marginalized dissenting voices or anything. It's merely to show support in remember 9/11 and to support our troops that are fighting a losing battle based on failed policies of this administration.

President Bush and his administration are the ones that has marginalized dissenting behavior, fired or force out hundreds of civil servants simply because they refuse to follow the party line, destroyed the integrity of the Department of Justice by appointing an AG that has spent the last few years politicizing an agency that prided itself on being politically neutral, did extensive character assassinations on anyone dissenting against the war (Valerie Flame anyone?), funnel billions of dollars of Defense and energy contracts to Bush friends and high-dollar donors, and just this past Wednesday voted no on a bill that would have helped many low to mid income families have medical insurance for their children....a bill in which was supported by quite a large number of Republican's as well! Which is ironic because he just declared Oct 1 to be National Children Health Awareness day.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...veto_lies.html

But that's ok...I'll stop now cuz as Steve and I have battled extensively over in the Senior mods forums..all this is old news.

I guess the new news is this. Are all you liberal hacks on this forum gonna put your money where your mouth is and vote in the next election? Seriously rhetoric and flaming on forums is nice and easy, but it means nothing when you don't vote.
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"Oh come on" Rich , you know you're just scratching on the surface of some of these issues and just typing up the sound bites, especially on the SCHIP veto. Because children are involvled, the FACTS simply don't matter.

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Nice pic, seriously. I'd definately submit it to FOX if i were you cuz they'd eat that **** up right away.

The problem is, I don't buy into the left-right paradigm so it makes it almost void to me. I'm actually voting Republican in the primaries.

As for the comment about hypocrisy, I don't accuse sheeple of spewing propoganda, but actually being victims of it.

I wish people would just see the bigger picture

DV8, you say America is the best country in the world right now. Could you expand on this? I know we're not the richest (our dollar is a joke and we're borrowing millions from the Chinese daily to finance our military operation) and we're certainly not the freest anymore. In fact, I think we've become one of the most hated countries on the planet. You speak about being recognize positives which I agree with, but it's very dangerous to neglect the negatives and be in denial. I'm sorry your friends are over there right, but I don't see this as a way to rationalize how the oil companies are using our military as pawns.
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Although I very much disagree with most of your angles Dizzy, I have to commend you on the attack of the cry babies. I know some will come back with, "I do vote", but we both know that they either don't vote at all, or vote for the "underdog" that ruins any chance of what would be a proper democrat being put back into office. When November rolls around, I am damn sure my ass is standing in line to vote.

On a side note... Why am I never asked about how I vote from these companies that do political polls? They don't want to skew the #s?
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This all coming from a guy who believes that our Gov't blew up the WTC...
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This all coming from a guy who believes that our Gov't blew up the WTC...
YOU MEAN YOU DON'T SEE THE TRUTHZORZ??!!11!
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I sawd it on duh inturdnet.
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Nice pic, seriously. I'd definately submit it to FOX if i were you cuz they'd eat that **** up right away.

The problem is, I don't buy into the left-right paradigm so it makes it almost void to me. I'm actually voting Republican in the primaries.

As for the comment about hypocrisy, I don't accuse sheeple of spewing propoganda, but actually being victims of it.

I wish people would just see the bigger picture
Aren't you the same guy that was posting that "9/11 Truth" conspiracy theory nonsense?


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DV8, you say America is the best country in the world right now. Could you expand on this? I know we're not the richest (our dollar is a joke and we're borrowing millions from the Chinese daily to finance our military operation)
Strong/Weak dollar has little to do with that. The Japanese yen is far weaker than the USD is, and that's intentional by the Japanese gov't because it helps their export businesss (cars?).

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and we're certainly not the freest anymore.
Please explain.

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In fact, I think we've become one of the most hated countries on the planet.
Because people are jealous of all that we "have" both material and non-material.

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You speak about being recognize positives which I agree with, but it's very dangerous to neglect the negatives and be in denial.
How old are you? I'm just about to turn 30 and am just now beginning to appreciate how great this country is. It takes awhile to sink in, and you have to have the proper perspective. Too many people focus only on the negatives as if there's no good things about this country.

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I'm sorry your friends are over there right, but I don't see this as a way to rationalize how the oil companies are using our military as pawns.
Oh the irony.
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It seems the majority of the active moderation staff are right-wingers. Well, at least the person in charge isn't a hardcore red. If he were, and the opposition were blues, he'd probably abuse his power and cause major civil unrest within the community. I think it's because I come from a non-white, non-upper class, family where I'm the first generation born here that I'm siding with Dizzy on this one. Swears didn't make the most intelligent of posts, but regardless, it's funny watching neo-conservatives try to defend all the enormous flaws of the current system they put in place. It just boggles the mind how anyone could support a system that does this:

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President Bush and his administration are the ones that has marginalized dissenting behavior, fired or force out hundreds of civil servants simply because they refuse to follow the party line, destroyed the integrity of the Department of Justice by appointing an AG that has spent the last few years politicizing an agency that prided itself on being politically neutral, did extensive character assassinations on anyone dissenting against the war (Valerie Flame anyone?), funnel billions of dollars of Defense and energy contracts to Bush friends and high-dollar donors, and just this past Wednesday voted no on a bill that would have helped many low to mid income families have medical insurance for their children....a bill in which was supported by quite a large number of Republican's as well! Which is ironic because he just declared Oct 1 to be National Children Health Awareness day.
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I don't understand why you guys are making such a big deal about this?

It's a ribbon, that shows pride and patriotism. Why must people dilute it and contaminate it with their political opinions, and turn it into something evil and disgusting?

I have 5 of my good friends in Iraq right now, 3 of them in Special Forces. They risk their lives everyday, and I will not let someone bash on what them risking their lives, just because they don't agree with it. Regardless of what your opinion about the war is, the soldiers there needs our support. Even if they're staying, or coming home. I don't want to see anymore anti-war Vietnam hippies that bash on everything that's war related.
Next time you talk to your friends in Iraq thank them from me for having the courage to put their lives on the line for my freedom.
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Maybe it's about time for this bad boy to hit the streets

Maybe it's about time all of us war mongering crazies make our voices heard instead of just standing by and leeting all the liberals scream and yell without getting a responce.
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Hypocrisy at its finest. The "illegal war" and body armor stuff is all propaganda, yet you then accuse those that don't agree with you of propagandizing too. Or is that "projection" at its finest? I love how the left claims to be all about openness, respect, diversity, and acceptance, yet then they try to attack and shut down anyone on the right that disagrees with them, as if "free speech" in this country only applies to left-leaning speech. I think not!


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Nah, I save my voice for the presidential elections. Judging by the last few, all those crazy lefties seem to keep forgetting to mark it on their calendars
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