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There has been much confusion with swapping a 6 speed manual transmission into a 6th gen V6 Accord. I thought I would write this post to allow people to easily understand how the process works without unnecessary reposting of this topic over and over again. As well as filling my PM box with one sentence messages asking "How do a swap a 6 speed in my car?"

The Module
Overview
The swap module allows for the interfacing of the 6 speed manual transmission with the stock Accord 4 speed automatic transmission computer.

Without the module the following feature will not work.
-VTEC
-Full rev limit
-Speedo
-Reverse lock out
-Reverse light
-Passing inspection due to CEL

Parts list
The parts used for this swap are quite simple everything is available from Honda except the harness. Try to get as many parts off the donor car as possible. Here are some diagrams of the parts needed.

You can purchase parts and view detailed diagrams at Honda parts sites such as www.hondaautomotiveparts.com and www.acuraautomotiveparts.org. I find these are great sites for diagrams which allow you to see what is involved in a swap.

Mounts
The only mounts that are required to be change are the transmission mounts. The rear engine mounts can also be changed with a CL-S mount which is stronger but is not required. For the transmission mounts use the ones from the 03 CL-S 6 speed.

Axles and Intermediate shaft
The stock axles and intermediate shaft work just fine with the 6 speed transmissions. The CL-S axles are suppose to be stronger and thicker.

Pedals
You can use either the 03 CL-S or I4 Accord pedals.

Clutch hydraulics
You can use the clutch lines from the CL-S as well as the master cylinder. I have tried using a master cylinder from a mid 90's Civic as well and it works just fine and is a good bit cheaper.

Clutch Disc, Pressure Plate and Flywheel
You can use the clutch disc, pressure plate and flywheel from any 6 speed transmission. The Accord, TL and CL all use the same clutch but the CL uses a different flywheel which doesn't matter with this harness.

Shifter and Linkages
The I4 Accord shifter and linkages are not a direct fit and will have to be modified. The only linkages and shifter that are a direct fit are the from the 03 CL-S.

6 Speed Transmissions

6 Speed transmissions from the following cars can be used. But the Accord and TL transmissions will have to be modified slightly by welding on a stud for the shift linkage. (more on this later)
03-07 Accord V6 MT (NO LSD)
03 CL-S MT (LSD)
04-08 TL MT (LSD)

Special Preparations
Before installing the harness the mechanical aspects and stock wiring should be checked for functionality. This can done be driving the car in limp mode, by removing the transmission range switch from the automatic transmission and connecting it to the engine harness. Then by manipulating the the switch to the N or P position using a screw driver. Test to see if the car will drive. This will eliminate difficult troubleshooting due to the possibility of problems with both the car and harness.


Common Questions
Q: What car will this harness work on.
A: 98-02 Accord V6

Q: Will the harness work with a TL or CL.
A: Not yet we are working on the Type-S ECU currently. The harness might work on the 99 TL and will soon be tested.

Q: Can I use a I4 or Prelude transmission.
A: No only the listed transmission will work.

Q: Can I use this harness with the J32A2 Type-S ecu.
A: No, we are currently working on a harness that works with a Type-S motor. We hope this can be applied to the Accord, TL and CL.

Q: How can I get a harness.
A: The design has been modified for a easy install and will be mass produced soon. The first ones should be ready in around April.

Success Stories
Please let me know of any corrections.

Richie V6
99 Accord J30A1 with TL 6 Speed
99 Accord ECU

Capnff
99 Accord J32A1 with Accord 6 Speed
99 Accord ECU

MikeyMike
99 Accord J30A1 with CL 6 Speed
99 Accord ECU

JDMGRNAV6
99 Accord J30A1 with Accord 6 Speed
99 Accord ECU

2nd Gen Harness


**Orignal Post**
Hey guys, I am swaping in a 01 J30A1 and 6 speed into my 99 accord, since I bent my valves. This time I am working at home at a much slower pace so I will have time to take pictures and document the process.

So far I have prepped the new motor and removed the old motor from the car. I am waiting for my new clutch to come in. I will be running a distributor until I can figure out how to get a 01 ecu programmed by Honda.

As of September of last year I have been experimenting with swaping a 6 speed transmission into a 6th gen accord v6. As of last week I have designed, built and tested all the circuitry that solves all issues that people currently have with swaping in just a 6 speed tranny. Such as running check engine light and transmission fault free, working speedometer, vtec engaging and reverse shift lock out solenoid.

Several members have contacted me on building modules and harnesses that will allow them to run 6 speed tranny in there 6th gen accord. I was wondering how many people would be interested in this. I am planning on having custom printed circuit boards made and the larger the order the less expensive it will be. I am also thinking about offering a full swap kit with all the parts nesseccery for the swap including tranny. Basically you just pick up a pallet and all parts will be included.

I just noticed i have the resolution turned down really bad on my camera. The next set of pics will be more clear.

New motor, well only 28k


Stripped down to the bone :p


Stock harness


OOooOOOo J30A1 with 6 speed bolted to it


Tranny mount.


Hooked up


Front view


Rear View


No engine


Old engine meet your replacement


Tranny mount again


Unbolted CL-s 6 speed tranny


Flywheel
 

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SIRSIG said:
props to you my friend ! ! !

thanks for sharing this wonderful thing to us.

hopefully the people who asked you will walk the walk.

trust me, you guys will enjoy 6spd.



i got a Q: my tranny mount bolt (the one on the right side of the picture) is always coming out loose, why is that?
The crazy power of a type s motor. I really dont know, ive never had that problem. Have you tired locktie? Mine are sticking out cause i was about to pull the motor.
 

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Richie, since you have a tl 6 speed transmission there...could you check the bolt pattern of that vs the cl type s transmission or better yet see if the new tl 6 speed transmission bolts to your j30a. Let me know. Thanks.
 

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Sweet this makes me want to do it on my own but I'm having CCAutotuners do it for me :D plus the 3.2 motor :p

The TL 6 speed is pretty much the same as the CL-S 6-speed so its no suprise.
 

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Richie, since you have a tl 6 speed transmission there...could you check the bolt pattern of that vs the cl type s transmission or better yet see if the new tl 6 speed transmission bolts to your j30a. Let me know. Thanks.
I am planing on using the TL tranny just to confirm it fits. THe bolt pattern is the same as well as the mounts. I only see one minor difference and that is no crank sensor built into the tranny. But we dont need that anyways.
 

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Put me in for the swap kit (no tranny) my friend. And congratulations on everything :bowdown: . I, just like everyone else here appreciate the time you have taken to improve your car, and soon, others :clap: . I cant wait to get everything setup, and I am a guy that walks the walk, so you dont have to worry about me flaking out :nono: . I honestly thanks you from the heart for making this possible. :banana: :drive:
 

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So you are saying that you will make a package that includes a tranny so that we just swap it out in place of our auto and everything will work perfectly? Im definitely interested depending on the price.
 

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2001Accordtyper said:
So you are saying that you will make a package that includes a tranny so that we just swap it out in place of our auto and everything will work perfectly? Im definitely interested depending on the price.
Yup all mounts, wiring, hydraulics, pedels, and shifter. I am hoping it will cost around a Dr. Evil tranny.
 

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2001Accordtyper said:
WOW!!! and im saving up to buy a Dr.Evil.
Don't I managed to buy my 6-speed for $900 and install is about 2K so all together with miscellaneous parts its pretty much teh same price. Its just a matter of getting lucky and finiding one for a cheap price. Some guy is selling the whoel 3.2 swap conversion engine and manual for $4300.00 that includes the engine, tranny, and other miscelaneous stuff. Guy selling it is Hondaking.
 

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Accord_V6_400m said:
Don't I managed to buy my 6-speed for $900 and install is about 2K so all together with miscellaneous parts its pretty much teh same price. Its just a matter of getting lucky and finiding one for a cheap price. Some guy is selling the whoel 3.2 swap conversion engine and manual for $4300.00 that includes the engine, tranny, and other miscelaneous stuff. Guy selling it is Hondaking.
Thats a steal you better jump on it.
 

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Wow i was expecting a little more interest. :(
So far

Module and harness:
1. Spectro

Swap kit:
1. 2001Accordtyper?
2. marr9188?

I know im all talk now but when i get this done with vids and pics there will be more interest.
 
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