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there's a couple of forums that i go to that are spreading the word that cali laws allow you to have 70% visibility now on the front-side windows.... to my knowledge i've always known it to be no tint at all for the front-sides (unless it came stock)... a cop even pulled me over and gave me a fix-it ticket to remove my front tint... but searching around, some sites say legal (70% visibility) while others say illegal...

can someone provide hard, solid facts and reference/links.. thanks :)
 

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Here goes something that might help you:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=16131417125+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

If you do not find what you are looking for in that page, seek your answers through that site ( www.legalinfo.gov ). Everything is updated, I think daily. :)
Different police departments, I found, will tell you different stories on what you need to know concerning customizing your vehicle. Nevertheless, last I heard, they did allow a certain shade of tint on the front side windows, yet my sister still got slapped for even just that. The police officer at the time felt it looked darker than what was allowed. I suppose, it's sort of like an exhaust system. If they say it's too loud, even though you have papers proving test results, you still may be cited, and sent to test the db. I had a friend have that happen to him, and it happened to me, on cars that were obviously dam-quiet. Even the CHP, at the inspection station, gave me a hard time when I asked to get the ticket written off (that was back in tha-day).
 

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http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35525
that thread might help.

i didnt, however, get an answer to my question concerning interpretation of his:
can you explain the significance of CA CVC 27608 section (d) part 1 and 2:

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.


my question is: what would satisfy part (d) but not violate part (a) of the code?
 

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yes, they allow 70% (or was it 80%???) but that's practically clear. its not worth spending the money to have your front windows tinted 70% (which will fade lighter in time like all tints) because they're going to lighten up after a little while then they'll look completly clear. it's only worth it if you're doing the tint up front for the UV protection, if you're doing it for looks, no way.

i've had 55% on my front windows for a couple years now and havent had any trouble, i was pulled over for speeding and the cop didnt really notice them either because i had my windows rolled half way down. they're probably lighter than 55% now but you can still sort of see i have tint.

you can take a look at mine at the Dunlop meet if you want.
 

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taospec said:
Here goes something that might help you:
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=16131417125+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve

If you do not find what you are looking for in that page, seek your answers through that site ( www.legalinfo.gov ). Everything is updated, I think daily. :)
Different police departments, I found, will tell you different stories on what you need to know concerning customizing your vehicle. Nevertheless, last I heard, they did allow a certain shade of tint on the front side windows, yet my sister still got slapped for even just that. The police officer at the time felt it looked darker than what was allowed. I suppose, it's sort of like an exhaust system. If they say it's too loud, even though you have papers proving test results, you still may be cited, and sent to test the db. I had a friend have that happen to him, and it happened to me, on cars that were obviously dam-quiet. Even the CHP, at the inspection station, gave me a hard time when I asked to get the ticket written off (that was back in tha-day).

links don't seem to work?... but yea, cops have that lil loop-hole that they like to use, its at their discretion

hammer03 said:
http://www.v6performance.net/forums...ead.php?t=35525
that thread might help.
the thread was from 2004, it even says NO tint up in front.... most of the sites i go to don't even update their laws so i don't know if that still holds true

i guess i'll just make a visit to the local PD and get it straight from the horses mouth... but i'll have them show me in the book where it actually states it instead of getting their interpretation of it :p

KnightRyder said:
you can take a look at mine at the Dunlop meet if you want..
yea man, i'll definitely come check out your ride... :)
 

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California Vehicle Code said:
Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver's View


26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.

(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the rear of that window and which provides the driver with a wide-angle view through the lens.

(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with the device.

(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public or private roads or facilities.

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following conditions apply:

(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

(2) The material is not red or amber in color.

(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the installing company and the material's manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material's manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed according to manufacturer's instructions meets the requirements of this subdivision and identifies the material's manufacturer by full name and street address.

(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed or replaced.
off the california dmv page here http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm
 

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Dan (RSXTypeS) got pulled over by a cop. He had 55% and cop said any tint on front windows is illegal. You could fight in court about the code that states 70%, but most likely you won't have time to.

Best chance is do what my friend did... he got a optometrist to make a prescription allowing him to have tints in front :D
 

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I had 43% on the front for couple of months and no tint ticket. I got 20% Monday and i hope i continue the no tint ticket streak.
 

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Dan (RSXTypeS) got pulled over by a cop. He had 55% and cop said any tint on front windows is illegal. You could fight in court about the code that states 70%, but most likely you won't have time to.

Best chance is do what my friend did... he got a optometrist to make a prescription allowing him to have tints in front :D
lol... nice :p

i'm gonna stop by the PD this weekend and find out for sure, but i'm taking my wife's SUV and not my accord :p
 

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I had 43% on the front for couple of months and no tint ticket. I got 20% Monday and i hope i continue the no tint ticket streak.
and you're from the san jose area right? man good luck :p ... BTW you stoppin' by the Dunlop meet still?...
 

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no front plates and dark tints...i'm more nervous than ever. yeah i'll come and show your crew some love. if the weather gets really bad i'll split though.
 

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i'm 35% all around and have been pulled over for tint along wiht no front plate tickets
 

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Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver's View


26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

This was my last tint ticket about a year ago. It's a catch all and ***** to write off. My insurance company thought I had a sticker or something on my windshield. Btw, I have limo tint on 5 windows. That was my 5th ticket (maybe 6th) for tint.
 

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i'll be out tommorrow but mah ride will look like crap
 

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Hongda said:
I had 43% on the front for couple of months and no tint ticket. I got 20% Monday and i hope i continue the no tint ticket streak.
good luck with that. watch out for parts of 101 especially near de la cruz blvd. bike cops will get you.

I got nabbed there by a cop on the new bmw bikes.

was going to just pay the fine but then ended up selling the car so I just took it off.
 

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your insurance company DOES NOT **** WITH TINT TICKETS ... so whoever the guy is who said that his insurance gave him a hard time thats nonsnese.

I think a lot of it depends on the color of your car.

I had tint on my old 94 accord 4 door black 5% back and 35% on the front and got rolled 2 months after i got the front done. Out in sac on i80

Ive had my silver integra 2 door tinted since august 05 and no probs yet, 20% front and 5% rear

drivers side window isnt tinted anymore though cause it got busted and my stereo stolen, so i havent retinted yet.
 

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your insurance company DOES NOT **** WITH TINT TICKETS ... so whoever the guy is who said that his insurance gave him a hard time thats nonsnese.

Actually, insurance would care .... 26708. (a) (1) is a violation that can apply to a lot of things besides tint. Since the violation is sill on my record they are allowed to inquire as to if the problem has been resolved.
 

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ive gotten three front plate tickets and a tint and they have never asked about it ... maybe its the codes the officers down there use, but up here its a fix it ticket, simple as that.
 
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