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Goto www.vtec.net for the full report.

TL makes 258HP, not 270 under the new rating system. And Honda has been saying the Accord will make 10 more now, so is that 250 under the new SAE system? Sounds about right seeing how close the dyno's are showing between our two cars. :D

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yea, its called "SAE certified." it tightens up the standards for dyno testing in the industry. it is the third generation of SAE horsepower testing: SAE gross, SAE net, and now SAE certified.

this new system specifies many more testing parameters, including the hotly debated fuel/octane issue. under SAE certified, they must test the engine using only the recommended octane level. unfortunately, unlike SAE net, industry is not mandated to use these new standards. it is purely voluntary.

GM has announced that it plans to use this new system to test all their vehicles, while ford has no plans to use it. they say that, instead, they randomly pick three vehicles off the production line, do three tests on them, then average the results.

some of the rated outputs may not change, while other may increase or decrease slightly. seems like this is a true test of integrity ;D
 

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sumptimwong said:
unfortunately, unlike SAE net, industry is not mandated to use these new standards. it is purely voluntary.
And there in lies the problem. Companies won't use this new SAE system so they can keep the higher HP numbers. IMO, they either need to make it mandatory or drop it altogether to eliminate confusion/issues.
 

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And there in lies the problem. Companies won't use this new SAE system so they can keep the higher HP numbers. IMO, they either need to make it mandatory or drop it altogether to eliminate confusion/issues.
Well, J2723 is voluntary at this moment. But the companies who adopt this new system will be recognized and given credit for doing so. Just like how 70's muscle cars' power ratings are differentiated by stating "SAE gross horsepower", the J2723-certified numbers will be published the same way and differentiated from SAE net.

It is a more honest system providing more realistic numbers.

I'm sure other companies will follow suit. Nobody wants to look shady in this business.

It's interesting to note that German car companies, namely BMW, has already been doing this for quite a while. So that could partially explain why they could pull off such good numbers with seemingly less power than their competitors (at least on paper).
 

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Pure Adrenaline said:
Well, J2723 is voluntary at this moment. But the companies who adopt this new system will be recognized and given credit for doing so. Just like how 70's muscle cars' power ratings are differentiated by stating "SAE gross horsepower", the J2723-certified numbers will be published the same way and differentiated from SAE net.

It is a more honest system providing more realistic numbers.

I'm sure other companies will follow suit. Nobody wants to look shady in this business.

It's interesting to note that German car companies, namely BMW, has already been doing this for quite a while. So that could partially explain why they could pull off such good numbers with seemingly less power than their competitors (at least on paper).
Well that's good to know. How long do you think it will take before every manufacture is using the new J2723 certified numbers? 2006 MY? 2007 MY?
 
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